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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDylan Rooof is a racist, fascist scumbag...and killing him gives him what he wants.
It turns him into a martyr for his "cause".
The alt-right will use his execution to rally the "troops".
Far better just to leave him rotting in a cell, all alone, with no visitors and no communication with the outside world, 'til he finally dies.
Sixty years of obscurity in a prison would be the best punishment for such a specimen.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)He wants his execution to incite a white supremacist uprising.
We're better off having the give die in obscurity in a cell 60 years from now.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)And who cares if it is? The white supremacist uprising is already underway. I say hang him
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)All I'm saying is don't give him the reward of being a martyr.
You will probably get your way on this, but I'm not as confident as you that executing him won't make things massively worse. For everyone's sake I hope you're right if it actually happens.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)To horrible people with essentially fascist intent, yes.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Let him die, just like McVeigh, who is/was no martyr.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Not repentant, believed what he did was right, even on his death bed he quoted a poem extolling his actions (ruined a great poem in many ways).
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)but I will never support the death penalty
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Its not about Roof ... its about us
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)LonePirate
(13,424 posts)He has zero concern for any human life, including his own. Spending the next several decades of his life in order to evaluate that lack of concern would be just. Granted, his life will be in danger in prison if he comes anywhere close to a general prison population, ala Jeffrey Dahmer. Still, life imprisonment is the only punishment I could recommend.
I think you are spot-on with your assessment of his execution being a galvanizing event for white nationalists and other racists. We don't need to energize them further.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)I haven't seen any support for the POS.
and know lots of far right people - none of them have been singing the praises of this dirtbag
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)There really are some things worse than death. He's a young man and sitting in a cell for the next 40-50 years seems fitting.
rug
(82,333 posts)Socal31
(2,484 posts)Despite my recent stay at a Holiday Inn Express, I am no Psychologist. However, nothing I saw struck me as low-IQ or space-cadet type logic.
It's worse. He understands how he is perceived. He has introspect and reflection on his actions that require some sort of mid-level functioning. Yet no remorse or acknowledgement of the devastation he caused.
Id rather it be a obvious and detectable mental defect rather than a "rational", determined, and ingrained racist hate. I want these f*ckbags showing DVSM signs 10 years before they are capable of ruining lives so we can address it somehow.
He is 100% eligible for the DP, as it stands. Either that, or abolish it completely. He is why it exists in purple states.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)And make sure every jailer he has contact with is black.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)That would be the ultimate humiliation for someone like him.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Abu Pepe
(637 posts)for reason it is not reversable in cases of false convictions. There is no doubt about this guy's guilt and in a big time DP state like SC, not giving it out would be a pretty big 'fuck you' to the AA community in this case.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)...but not actually carry it out.
tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)eom
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)But this one leaves no room for doubt, and he accepts what he did and believes it was virtuous. May it be swift.
Warpy
(111,273 posts)because we all know he'd find a ready audience for his vicious bigotry there.
And at some point over the next 8-10 years, he's got to realize there is no glorious martyrdom in being strapped to a table and put down like a rabid dog. Perhaps at that point he will realize he's a fucking dimwitted tool and rat out the really bad guys.
I'm against the DP, even for this little turd. However, the last place he needs to be is mixing with skinheads and neo Nazis in prison.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)btw, who do you mean by "the really big guys"? Are you thinking Roof was in league with others on this? pm me with your response if you don't want to post it in the thread.