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******BREAKING NEWS****** JURY SENTENCES DYLANN ROOF TO DEATH (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 OP
He'll die of old age. lpbk2713 Jan 2017 #1
If the general population could get their hands on him True Dough Jan 2017 #4
Exactly HockeyMom Jan 2017 #30
In situations like this: jonno99 Jan 2017 #10
The victims and families don't want death. nt cwydro Jan 2017 #22
I'm good with that bravenak Jan 2017 #2
"Murder is so wrong, you see JenniferJuniper Jan 2017 #7
Murder is defined as the "unlawful killing of a human being". 11 Bravo Jan 2017 #9
His death certificate will read "homicide" JenniferJuniper Jan 2017 #14
murder and homicide are not synonyms. Throd 2.0 Jan 2017 #16
Didn't say they were, if you read the body of my post JenniferJuniper Jan 2017 #17
I've been opposed to the discriminatory application of the death penalty .. 11 Bravo Jan 2017 #18
Also, I see no remorse bravenak Jan 2017 #20
I actually have a problem with giving him his wish to die. DemocraticWing Jan 2017 #32
I don't mind giving him his last wish bravenak Jan 2017 #34
I see, so where exactly is the line drawn JenniferJuniper Jan 2017 #21
Well, frankly, the courts do. See how that works? WinkyDink Jan 2017 #23
Justice SummerSnow Jan 2017 #3
Just ice him nt Xipe Totec Jan 2017 #6
He will be gone faster than Runningdawg Jan 2017 #5
I no longer support capital punishment. I think lifelong solitary confinement, tritsofme Jan 2017 #8
Oh, no. If not the DP, then by all means surround DR with MANY Black inmates. WinkyDink Jan 2017 #24
Please bravenak Jan 2017 #26
I wish that they had simply BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #11
BENEDICT DONALD WILL PARDON HIM !!! uponit7771 Jan 2017 #12
I don't think he should have been able to represent himself. Laffy Kat Jan 2017 #13
if he wants to die can he skip the appeals? OriginalGeek Jan 2017 #15
Hope he ends up with life, too. Laffy Kat Jan 2017 #19
Too bad... 2naSalit Jan 2017 #25
I thought he was convicted of a federal hate crime resulting in death. I don't think he has many underthematrix Jan 2017 #27
Perhaps you are correct 2naSalit Jan 2017 #28
I still don't believe in the death penalty. BigDemVoter Jan 2017 #29
The death penalty is uncivilized. We should not allow it. immoderate Jan 2017 #33
Good! Calculating Jan 2017 #31
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
30. Exactly
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:58 PM
Jan 2017

He would suffer far more in the general prison population. Death is quick. If I were on that jury, I would give him life without the possibility of parole. Let him get prison justice as a very young man with his whole life ahead of him.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
10. In situations like this:
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:49 PM
Jan 2017

- an admission of guilt
- video & eye-witness proof of the perp
- forensic evidence
- the perp knew what he was doing

I see NO reason why he should die of old age.

Schedule the execution & let's be done with it.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
7. "Murder is so wrong, you see
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:11 PM
Jan 2017

both the Bible and the courts agree
That the state's allowed to murder in the chair"

"Iron Lady" Phil Ochs 1964

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
9. Murder is defined as the "unlawful killing of a human being".
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:49 PM
Jan 2017

I can defend the execution of Dylann Roof in either instance. It's lawful, and he's well ...

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
14. His death certificate will read "homicide"
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:08 PM
Jan 2017

Phil was being poetic.

Makes me very sad to see so many so called progressives cheering the death penalty.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
17. Didn't say they were, if you read the body of my post
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jan 2017

I explain.

The death penalty is a horrible thing that should not exist in any civilized society. Regardless of the crime, I find celebration of "legal homicide" sickening.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
18. I've been opposed to the discriminatory application of the death penalty ..
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:17 PM
Jan 2017

for years. But in South Fucking Carolina, a state which has executed African-American defendants for decades, often on flimsy evidence; how in the fuck can I justify giving a pass to a white punk who murdered nine African-American church goers, and admits that he did it?
Sorry, fuck him.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
20. Also, I see no remorse
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:24 PM
Jan 2017

Why keep an unremorseful murderer alive? No reason, imo. He wants to die; let's give him his last wish

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
32. I actually have a problem with giving him his wish to die.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jan 2017

We're supposed to punish him, not send him off to his imagined reward for his evil deeds.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
34. I don't mind giving him his last wish
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:21 PM
Jan 2017

For him to be so fucked up makes me sad. I actually dont want him there for decades suffering, he alao does not want to sit there thinking about what he did. I get that. Too hard to fix. Best let him go on his way.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
21. I see, so where exactly is the line drawn
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:25 PM
Jan 2017

and who gets to draw it?

Nine African American church goers - check.

5 Asian bankers in a meeting?

3 white atheists on welfare?

15 mixed race Republicans at a convention?

tritsofme

(17,379 posts)
8. I no longer support capital punishment. I think lifelong solitary confinement,
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jan 2017

with human contact kept to an absolute minimum, is a far better punishment.

Let him sit in a dimly lit room for 70 years and think about what he did.

But if he does end up with a needle in his arm, I won't be shedding any tears.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
11. I wish that they had simply
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:50 PM
Jan 2017

sentenced him to life without parole and just let him fade away in the criminal "justice" system.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
13. I don't think he should have been able to represent himself.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 06:57 PM
Jan 2017

Especially in a death penalty case. Of course, appeal is automatic.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
15. if he wants to die can he skip the appeals?
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:12 PM
Jan 2017

or does that state take over in his "interest"?

Either way, I am 100% against the death penalty and nothing here sways me a percent. I think he's getting what he wants and I would prefer he didn't get what he wants.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
25. Too bad...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:43 PM
Jan 2017

this means he gets to waste untold amounts of taxpayer $$ in nearly endless appeals... But then, he may end up like Dahmer.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
27. I thought he was convicted of a federal hate crime resulting in death. I don't think he has many
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:45 PM
Jan 2017

appeals if any.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
29. I still don't believe in the death penalty.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 07:58 PM
Jan 2017

I simply cannot condone the state taking the life of one of its citizens. One could argue that the perpetrator "waived" his rights, or he "deserves" it, because he "chose" to kill. . . .

I'm not arguing whether somebody "deserves" it or not. That's not the issue here. The issue here is that we are one of the ONLY "first world" nations that uses the death penalty. Life imprisonment for Mr. Roof would be a far more difficult sentence to handle than lethal injection. Why not allow Mr. Roof the rest of his life in prison to contemplate what he did? And I don't imagine his prison life would amount to much fun, as his notoriety would precede him wherever he might be incarcerated. Nonetheless, I am not advocating for violence against him either. Prisoners should be treated humanely yet like prisoners.

We cannot allow the incoming administration to force us into losing our humanity. Just because the President of the United States is a goddamned bully, misognyist and racist and has brought the word "pussy" into the national spotlight, WE shouldn't permit ourselves to become jaded in regards to violence.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
33. The death penalty is uncivilized. We should not allow it.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 08:16 PM
Jan 2017

Nor should he be tortured. His mind is broken.

I agree with you.

--imm

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