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Trump just met with RFK Jr. to discuss vaccines... (Original Post) SidDithers Jan 2017 OP
THAT is one of the scarier things I've heard LeftishBrit Jan 2017 #1
(Sound Of Head Slamming Into Desk) hatrack Jan 2017 #2
sure there is. it's mopinko Jan 2017 #14
Kennedys -- proof that two generations of marrying women for their looks is a bad idea. FarCenter Jan 2017 #3
Oh ffs. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2017 #4
Of course he did etherealtruth Jan 2017 #5
Not too surprising. He's made anti vaxxer statements before. Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #6
Oh, they were doing fine already - now a boost from the Witch Doctor In Chief hatrack Jan 2017 #7
Yeah, he's known for this. brush Jan 2017 #8
DJT tells a story about a beautiful child that 'had problems' after vaccinations. PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #9
You might be on to something. Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #10
I agree kimbutgar Jan 2017 #11
I hesitate to attempt a long distance diagnosis of Barron, but I don't think I've seen a picture Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #13
Would YOU smile if Twitler was YOUR dad?? lostnfound Jan 2017 #33
I'd like to see him at 3 in the afternoon and not 3 in the morning before passing judgement yeoman6987 Jan 2017 #26
It could be Donald, that the problem is YOU. Your 60 year old sperm, that is. PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #15
Of course, it's not his 60-year-old sperm at the time. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2017 #12
Yes, although he has a beautiful, perfect body. He is a 'studly' specimen, just ask him! PearliePoo2 Jan 2017 #16
Red Don is presently 70 y.o. So if Barron is now 10... Hekate Jan 2017 #31
Oh wow the autism rumor huh? Generator Jan 2017 #20
Yay loyalsister Jan 2017 #29
RFK Jr. is a fucking anti-VAX idiot. nt longship Jan 2017 #17
I guess Andrew Wakefield's esteemed nuttiness wasn't enough? herding cats Jan 2017 #18
And isn't he married to that gal from Larry David's show Generator Jan 2017 #19
I fucking hate anti-vaxxers ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #21
"I fucking hate anti-vaxxers"... SidDithers Jan 2017 #22
Yeah buddy! ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #24
Here's the link octoberlib Jan 2017 #23
Thanks... SidDithers Jan 2017 #25
Puke. Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #27
Oh , Jesus octoberlib Jan 2017 #28
Can't wait for Orac to blog about this at ScienceBlogs... SidDithers Jan 2017 #30
Definitely! octoberlib Jan 2017 #34
Oh no Hekate Jan 2017 #32
RFK Jr. and scientific integrity don't belong in the same sentence. octoberlib Jan 2017 #35

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
1. THAT is one of the scarier things I've heard
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jan 2017

Not only because it risks bringing back another wonderful thing from the past - good old infectious diseases! - but because it may widen The Unspeakable's net of collaborators.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
6. Not too surprising. He's made anti vaxxer statements before.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jan 2017

Welcome back polio, mumps, measles, whooping cough. . . .

brush

(53,785 posts)
8. Yeah, he's known for this.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:19 PM
Jan 2017

trump seems to welcome all the crazies.

Measles, mumps, chicken pox here we come.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
9. DJT tells a story about a beautiful child that 'had problems' after vaccinations.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jan 2017

I would bet the farm that child's name is Barron. (when has he EVER cared about anyone's problems except his own?)

kimbutgar

(21,157 posts)
11. I agree
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jan 2017

I used to be kind of an anti vaxer because of my autistic son. Now I did my research and think vaccinations should be required just more staggered now other than 3-5 in the first 3 months of an infant. . But obviously there is something there that might have to do with Baron, he reminds me of some high functioning austistic kids I have taught.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
13. I hesitate to attempt a long distance diagnosis of Barron, but I don't think I've seen a picture
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jan 2017

of the child when he was smiling. Maybe he's just very shy. The media attention at his public appearances would unsettle many adults.

As far as vaccines, I've been surprised at how many more are required today than when my own kids were young. I would likely discuss a more staggered schedule with my pediatrician. However, the research I have done doesn't suggest any link between vaccines and autism.

lostnfound

(16,180 posts)
33. Would YOU smile if Twitler was YOUR dad??
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:54 PM
Jan 2017

I think Barron is a beautiful kid and i hope he overcomes his unfortunate paternal influences.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
15. It could be Donald, that the problem is YOU. Your 60 year old sperm, that is.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jan 2017

Maybe Mother Nature says it's risky making babies at 60?

Are Older Men’s Sperm Really Any Worse?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-older-mens-sperm-really-any-worse/
snip
"Worries about aging sperm — or, more accurately, sperm from aging men — are the same as the concerns about aging eggs: decrease in fertility, and increase in genetic problems and psychiatric and behavior disorders among offspring. The primary issues in the latter category are autism and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

The authors of a 2011 review article in Molecular Psychiatry combined a number of studies comparing children of older and younger fathers (this is called a “meta-analysis”). They concluded that relative to children born to 20- to 29-years-old fathers, those with fathers aged 30 to 39 were 1.2 times more likely to have autism; those with fathers aged 40 to 49 were 1.8 times more likely; and those with fathers over 50 were 2.5 times more likely. The studies used in the meta-analysis were all pretty consistent. They did not all find the same size effect, but virtually all pointed to increased risk of autism with increased paternal age.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
16. Yes, although he has a beautiful, perfect body. He is a 'studly' specimen, just ask him!
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jan 2017

Nothing imperfect could possibly come from his loins. Oops, 'scuse me for a sec (Donald's loins) ...

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
31. Red Don is presently 70 y.o. So if Barron is now 10...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:47 PM
Jan 2017

Anyway, I used to think the kid was just up past his bedtime, but with Melania's extremely protective behavior, and all the other odd stuff about the family... It's a sick family system from Dad on down. Who the hell knows.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
18. I guess Andrew Wakefield's esteemed nuttiness wasn't enough?
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:37 PM
Jan 2017

He needed a second opinion to reinforce his anti-vac beliefs?

We are so fucked as a nation.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
19. And isn't he married to that gal from Larry David's show
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:41 PM
Jan 2017

Who is BIG on environmental issues and climate change? It's like Trump bringing a job to 500 people meanwhile outlawing free speech and making the country safe for neo-Nazi's. Just because there is one thing you like about this monster, he is still a monster that can destroy everything else. Disgusting. AND anti-vax fits with the conspiracy thing and will just kill more kids.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
21. I fucking hate anti-vaxxers
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:52 PM
Jan 2017

Especially this year. It's mass mononia, yes, but people are dying--that that's still not good enough for the sanctimonious pukings of the "leaders" of this bullshit. Trump fits right in with the rest of them.

I'm a bedside nurse. I work in transplant. The means when someone is told there is no hope after multi-organ failure and or rejection d/t what started out as the flu caught from their kids--I get to be there.

Thank GOD I don't work in pediatrics as the Mumps are roaring back in fashion. I couldn't deal with that level of irresponsible bullshit.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
28. Oh , Jesus
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:38 PM
Jan 2017



?@danmericaCNN Dan Merica
RFK Jr. told reporters after the meeting that Trump asked him to chair "a commission on vaccination safety and scientific integrity."

https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/818898858818334720



Dave Weigel ?@daveweigel 13m13 minutes ago
Other commission members: Jenny McCarthy, Andrew Wakefield, a YouTube comment section.


SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
30. Can't wait for Orac to blog about this at ScienceBlogs...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jan 2017

This commission needs Paul Offit on it.

Sid

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
34. Definitely!
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:55 PM
Jan 2017

A bipartisan commission will never happen under Trump , though. He knows more than any scientist!

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