NY Times Editorial calls out Trump for getting caught in his lies

[mnhtnbb]

Last edited Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump, Trapped in His Lies, Keeps Lying. Sad!

He hasn’t taken office yet, but Donald Trump is lost, wandering in a labyrinth of lies and trying to drag the country in with him.

Witness his reaction to being called out on Sunday by Meryl Streep. Speaking at the Golden Globes, she said she had been stunned and heartbroken to see him mock a reporter with a physical disability.

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Just more lies upon lies. It all goes back to Mr. Trump’s baseless claim that he saw Muslims dancing in the streets by the thousands after the towers fell on 9/11. Challenged over this, Mr. Trump seized on a 2001 article in The Washington Post, written by Mr. Kovaleski when he was a reporter there, that he said backed up his story. But the article did not do that. It merely reported that the authorities had questioned “a number of people” who were “allegedly seen” celebrating the attack. Nothing has ever come of that “allegedly” — there has never been any evidence to substantiate Mr. Trump’s claim, not then, not now. Mr. Kovaleski did not change his story — not “totally,” not at all. And he did not grovel.

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“Why is everything taken at face value?” she said. “You can’t give him the benefit of the doubt on this and he’s telling you what was in his heart? You always want to go by what’s come out of his mouth rather than look at what’s in his heart.”

This is where things got really weird. Ms. Conway’s quote is a glimpse into the heart of darkness that a Trump presidency portends. She wants us to swallow Mr. Trump’s reality without question. To accept only what he says now — not what he said then — over the evidence seen and heard by our own eyes and ears. She wants us overcome the dissonance by looking for the “truth” in his heart.

The truth is getting harder to see in the flickering gaslight of Mr. Trump’s America, but it’s there. Not “in his heart,” or out of his mouth, no matter how much this man and his minions say otherwise.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/opinion/trump-trapped-in-his-lies-keeps-lying-sad.html?referer=http%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F


This is very heartening to see the NY Times call Trump's lies what they are: lies. Notice, too, the use of "gaslight" in the last paragraph. Interesting word choice given the OP I posted about gaslighting yesterday. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028449211


And it also turns out that while Trump was talking to the NY Times Sunday night when they contacted him about Meryl Streep's acceptance speech, he went on to lie some more--not about the incident with the disabled reporter--but about dress shops in DC being sold out of dresses for the inaugural. It's really a sign of a pathological liar to impulsively lie about something of no importance. Really? The PEOTUS is tracking dress inventory in DC? What? It made a number of reporters--from various organizations--investigate and here's a sample of what they found.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/01/09/us/politics/ap-us-trump-dress-shops-fact-check.html

http://time.com/4629690/donald-trump-inauguration-clothes/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/01/09/d_c_dress_stores_contradict_trump_say_they_have_plenty_of_gowns_for_the.html

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. The man has serious mental health issues. Fit for presidency? I think not.

[Cha]

2. This is a good article.. I saw it earlier and posted it on an OP

of mine so I could put it in my journal.

It's very encouraging! Yes, "gaslighting" seems to be on a lot of people's minds in relation to what trump and the conway are doing.. not to mention all the other little trump*****.



Great OP, mnhtnbb.. thank you

[mnhtnbb]

4. Before posting I always check to see if someone else has done so first,

but I didn't see yours, Cha! I guess I didn't scroll through enough posts!

[Cha]

5. Oh, no.. I didn't have it as an OP.. I just posted it to

one already in progress so I could put it in my journal.

I'm probably the only one who read it.. I'm glad you made it as an OP!

I was going to come back here and say.. as long as people are focusing on trumpLies.. past and present. They should mention his Lying about where President Obama was born. I hear that was his way in to run for President.. got him the best traction.. the biggest most stupid lie that the suckers loved to eat up.

Until he had to say during the GE that "Obama was born in the US".. all pouty and shit.

[world wide wally]

3. He is one wild and crazy President

I wish this was just a SNL skit

[okasha]

13. It will be, never fear.

[Fast Walker 52]

6. That's more like it from the NYTimes. Good job calling this out.

[heaven05]

7. Won't change the realty that

HE IS a 3rd rate, low life con, sexist, racist individual, voted in as POTUS by 3rd rate, racist, sexist individuals. Only hope is that articles like this continue to appear and maybe, just maybe his supporters will wake up to the fact they have allowed their ignorance to make them dupes of the clown jester-in-chief. What a dangerous joke ameriKKKa appears to be with this "pathological liar" as POTUS representing the american culture and americans-ameriKKKans at large....and conway.... geez

[BSdetect]

8. Where were they a year or so ago?

He's a liar without parallel in US politics and they let it slide for so long.

Prepare for more of the same until some grown ups take action to remove this scum from the scene.

Its going to get far worse before they wake up.

[radical noodle]

9. My first husband was like this

he lied about the most inconsequential things. He made up stories for no reason. Trump is 70 and my ex is 71. Neither have nor will change. Ever. It is part of them and all we can do is call it out constantly. It will become tiresome because there's such a trail of lies, but it must be done.

[HopeAgain]

10. Definition of a Sociopath

-Glibness and Superficial Charm
-Manipulative and Conning
-They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible.
-They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. --They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
-Grandiose Sense of Self
-Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
-Pathological Lying
-Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
-Shallow Emotions
-When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive.
-Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
-Need for Stimulation
-Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
-Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
-Extreme narcissism and/or grandiosity.
-Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Need I go on?

[radical noodle]

11. No need for me to hear more

It was terrible being married to one, I can't imagine one of them as president.

[Hekate]

12. Excellent start, NYT. Now when they use the words "insane" and "dementia" it will really be out

Damn this is scary. Good call on Kellyann, too.