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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:34 PM Jan 2017

Why Not Change Social Security/Medicare Eligibility To 75 or 80? Save A Lot Of Money.

Why stop at 67 for eligibility? If you want to save money you can eliminate an awful lot of people. And why not make you not eligible for these programs if you have a 401k worth $200,000 or some set value?

The GOP can pick any number it wants. I do not hear any outrage so seniors who like Trump are OK with that.

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Why Not Change Social Security/Medicare Eligibility To 75 or 80? Save A Lot Of Money. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jan 2017 OP
hey, don't give them any ideas... pangaia Jan 2017 #1
We should all be working till 75 or 80 anyway. milestogo Jan 2017 #2
Or keep it as a reward for people who turn 100 Warpy Jan 2017 #3
Like the babushkas in Moscow... Rollo Jan 2017 #5
Because most people would be Dead if they work that long Alice11111 Jan 2017 #4
Because dead people no longer collect SS or need Medicare... Rollo Jan 2017 #6
Don't think they're not working on it as we speak. Many people don't reach 75 or 80. brush Jan 2017 #7
With no health care people will die early Doreen Jan 2017 #8
Sadly, that is the history of Social Security. Xolodno Jan 2017 #9
This is depressing, but true! Alice11111 Jan 2017 #10

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
2. We should all be working till 75 or 80 anyway.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jan 2017

(Even though its damn near impossible to get a job once you're 55.)

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
3. Or keep it as a reward for people who turn 100
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:43 PM
Jan 2017

or make them go out with brooms to sweep sidewalks and streets to earn it?

Those heartless bastards are capable of any cruelty.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
5. Like the babushkas in Moscow...
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:46 PM
Jan 2017

We are rapidly approaching the New American Serf Nation, courtesy of Donald Putrump.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
4. Because most people would be Dead if they work that long
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:43 PM
Jan 2017

...if the Republicans could do it, they would. Paul Ryan's and MMs best dream. Of course, they have the best insurance for life, retirement, massive days off, and they are wealthy anyway. For the workers, let them eat cake.

brush

(53,789 posts)
7. Don't think they're not working on it as we speak. Many people don't reach 75 or 80.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:47 PM
Jan 2017

That just means more money in the Social Security fund for their Wall Street clients to churn for unearned fees when they privatize it.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
8. With no health care people will die early
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:05 PM
Jan 2017

and never make it to 67 so for them to say 75 or 80 would be perfect. Maybe they should just line us disabled people up and shoot us then they will never have to give Soc-Sec to us.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
9. Sadly, that is the history of Social Security.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:14 PM
Jan 2017

It was on the rare side that someone made it to 60. And if they did, they really couldn't work and were essentially a financial burden on the remaining family (hence the phrase to take grandpa to the backside of the barn.....while carrying a gun). Social Security ended that.

FDR probably intended to lower the age further and institute a real retirement package, hell, that's what he set up Europe and Japan for during their rebuilding. But he died before that could happen and leaders afterwards didn't push for it, as Social Security, although just a minor token, satisfied many. Plus at the time, government pressure for pensions was high, so it also satisfied a portion of the population. Now...very few companies offer pensions and those that do have switched to defined contribution. Most push 401k's and although start with a large matching contribution...in time chisel it away for newer employee's.

Were slowly going back to pre New Deal era and too many are applauding it.

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