Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:15 PM Jan 2017

Please! I'm "effing" begging you. Stop watching the MSM

All of it! They gave us Trump and each second of watching them rewards them.

There are so many threads like

Matthews said this...

Did you see Rachel...

Chuck Todd had this...

Mika and Joe defend...

Just fucking stop it!

Take the time you spend watching MSM and use it to contact The Ohio State University and ask them why their major sports are broadcast on radio stations that carry Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest of the cookie-cutter racists. Hell..Ask all D1 schools the same fucking question.

If you must watch morning blow our the other fucking "potato chips for the brain" infotainment shows, do so only to publish a list of advertisers to contact and stop soliciting.

Hell, I'd pay money to anyone who could develop a program that instead of skipping the ads, only showed the ads. Would make it more efficient to figure out who gets not one penny of my money or one second of my time.

This is fucking war!!! The MSM are the fucking enemy. Stop giving them the time of day

87 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Please! I'm "effing" begging you. Stop watching the MSM (Original Post) maxrandb Jan 2017 OP
I haven't watched them in 4 plus years. nt sheshe2 Jan 2017 #1
Bizarre Foods! elleng Jan 2017 #2
That is why I am watching Clemson today HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #3
Huh? Clemson has their games aired by right-wing radio stations too. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #56
Great game, by the way! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #59
American Pickers. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #4
I've never watched them ... or college football. HeartachesNhangovers Jan 2017 #5
Since MSNBC and NBC News Generator Jan 2017 #6
Plus, The Apprentice BadgerMom Jan 2017 #17
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #7
It looks like you meant MSNBC pintobean Jan 2017 #8
No I meant all the MSM maxrandb Jan 2017 #9
Greta is on MSNBC now, too pintobean Jan 2017 #11
WHY anyone would watch Moaning Ho is beyond me. BigDemVoter Jan 2017 #10
... my excuse is Nictuku Jan 2017 #18
Listen to a BEETHOVEN string quartet on Youtube. pangaia Jan 2017 #45
Seriously! eom ReRe Jan 2017 #49
There are countless excellent podcasts on all kinds of subjects! Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #62
Stopped watching before the Russian coup. Will never watch again onecaliberal Jan 2017 #12
why they watch people who openly lie to them is beyond me nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #13
Lets kick them off of DU for watching cable news. pintobean Jan 2017 #16
I never suggested such a thing... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #19
Stalking? Get over yourself. pintobean Jan 2017 #22
Project much? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #24
Ladybug, chill.. don't bite the bait. pangaia Jan 2017 #47
Thanks. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #51
Do you think pintobean Jan 2017 #65
I'm yet looking for anyone attempting to force others to be like anyone or anything. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #70
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #71
It just works a lot better avoiding cable tv altogether for me. Jetboy Jan 2017 #14
fun fact...our FRiends on the Right say the same thing. brooklynite Jan 2017 #15
Now HBO ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #20
Thank goodness for Netflix, HULU, Acorn and Amazon Prime. Stonepounder Jan 2017 #21
I couldn't disagree with the OP more SCantiGOP Jan 2017 #23
We have to be aware and curious enough... yallerdawg Jan 2017 #79
cut the cord crazycatlady Jan 2017 #25
All the way up to the point where they say something you agree with... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2017 #26
Bravo! Kilgore Jan 2017 #30
I have not watched televised news since 2002 liberal N proud Jan 2017 #27
So ostrich-head-in-sand is the way to go? UTUSN Jan 2017 #28
That's the general drift I'm getting from the OP. SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #35
There's plenty of less biased news sources. hunter Jan 2017 #66
About (only?) monitoring "less biased sources" - the assumption is that those of us who *do* monitor UTUSN Jan 2017 #68
I recognized the Trump horror from people I interact with. hunter Jan 2017 #74
So (not being hostile) your world is your-corner-of-the-world, an anecdoctal exercise UTUSN Jan 2017 #75
Television isn't any less anecdotal. hunter Jan 2017 #83
"what's happening ontv" -I realize "MSM" is the thread topic &I broadened it tothe whole "out there" UTUSN Jan 2017 #86
Haven't watched since Rachel had the blonde Goebles on elmac Jan 2017 #29
So that basically leaves me wth "Democracy Now." Not really an option for me. SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #31
RM has Been a suck up at times, but she calls them out too. RM called DT a LIAR last week. Alice11111 Jan 2017 #32
Sure going to miss Wheel of Fortune! Kilgore Jan 2017 #33
LOL Bucky Jan 2017 #40
The MSM is NOT the enemy randr Jan 2017 #34
I agree. Right wingers believe media is left leaning, we believe it leans right. It's not hard Hoyt Jan 2017 #52
When it becomes propaganda maxrandb Jan 2017 #64
So completely agree!! This needs to be repeated like a mantra AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #36
Don't hafta beg! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #37
Been years since I watched TV... apcalc Jan 2017 #38
Beg all you want. I'll watch whatever I choose to. Bucky Jan 2017 #39
Haven't watched any of it since election day Thekaspervote Jan 2017 #41
Threw that garbage out the window 10 years ago and never looked back. Rex Jan 2017 #42
I'm with Bucky on this one . . FairWinds Jan 2017 #43
Sorry, spent 30 years in the Navy maxrandb Jan 2017 #63
You make excellent points, and . . FairWinds Jan 2017 #69
Not watching msm does not mean not being informed! Thekaspervote Jan 2017 #44
I consider myself pretty well informed. Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #84
I'm a lot more "Sam Seder analyzed that" or "Randi Rhodes detailed the process exhaustively today" byronius Jan 2017 #46
Donald Trump Goes on Twitter Rampage Against Corrupt, Dishonest Media TomCADem Jan 2017 #48
Vice News is the best hands down IMHO. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #50
I disagree. We need to get news from all sources and support Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid flamingdem Jan 2017 #53
while on the day after election I downgraded by satellite service so I still_one Jan 2017 #54
The fact is, I CAN'T STAND watching for more than a few minutes anyway. Laffy Kat Jan 2017 #55
In July of 2008 I moved to my current location. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #57
Have been off since the second Iraq war GusBob Jan 2017 #58
Agree... TomJulie Jan 2017 #60
I haven't watched ANY in 14 years. I never looked back. Cha Jan 2017 #61
Nope. I'll continue watching it, but fact check what I see. MineralMan Jan 2017 #67
+1. The last thing we need to be doing is fleeing to our individual little bubbles. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2017 #73
I'm with you. Iggo Jan 2017 #72
No! Just no! longship Jan 2017 #76
Do you mean cable news? Nevernose Jan 2017 #77
I haven't watched cable "news" since election night. geomon666 Jan 2017 #78
Yeah I see most media these days as JUNK MSM Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #80
Corporate media... disillusioned73 Jan 2017 #81
Agree completely, it's no news but entertainment without any journalistic integrity!!! FreeStateDemocrat Jan 2017 #82
i say the same damn thing. gerbilism. i won't watch any news channel. SQUIRREL! pansypoo53219 Jan 2017 #85
I get all my news from Samantha Bee and South Park! RealityChik Jan 2017 #87

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
56. Huh? Clemson has their games aired by right-wing radio stations too.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:04 AM
Jan 2017

It has become a pretty common occurrence with so many radio stations owned by ClearChannel/iHeartRadio now.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
6. Since MSNBC and NBC News
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:50 PM
Jan 2017

made themselves collaborators to the end of our democracy by hiring known propagandists from Fox "news" I will never watch them again. I boycotted for a year or so after Bush won and defeated Kerry. But this time i am making myself stick to it. And if Bill Maher has Republicon apologists on his show-I am not watching him either. Enough.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
17. Plus, The Apprentice
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:52 PM
Jan 2017

NBC-Universal allows Trump to remain an executive producer on The Apprentice. They are dead to me in all of their forms.

Response to maxrandb (Original post)

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
9. No I meant all the MSM
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jan 2017

Even tonight there is a thread here titled; "OK, Greta wasn't that bad"

I mean holy fuck!!!

It's all become potato chips for the brain. Every last show, when you boil it down it's just infotainment. Might as well watch Inside Addition or entertainment tonight

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
11. Greta is on MSNBC now, too
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jan 2017

along with the people you mentioned in your OP.

The MSN would include all cable and network news, along with every major newspaper,news magazine, and news website. Hell, with LBN's guidelines, DU might be considered the MSM.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
10. WHY anyone would watch Moaning Ho is beyond me.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:12 PM
Jan 2017

He is/was a fucking Republican Congressman from. . . . Florida, I think? He's awful. That fool with whom he broadcasts his horse shit is equally stupid. What's her name? Isn't it Mikah or something along those lines?

Why would ANY progressive watch this fuckery?

Nictuku

(3,614 posts)
18. ... my excuse is
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:55 PM
Jan 2017

... it is the only thing on at that time in the morning when I get up (3:00 am Pacific Time). Not even Washington Journal is on yet (I didn't always have to get up so early and that was where I used to get my headlines because they do read headlines from newspapers on that program).

I'm then gone for 13 hours and when I get home am too tired to consume any news. My other outlet is here (on my breaks at work), or listening to Randi's podcast on my way home.

If I could find anything else to watch in that 30 minutes that I have when my alarm goes off and I have to actually get up, I'm up for suggestions.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
13. why they watch people who openly lie to them is beyond me nt
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:27 PM
Jan 2017

and thee has GOT to be something we can do about it

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
22. Stalking? Get over yourself.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:04 PM
Jan 2017

I was in this thread before you. I noticed another silly comment and responded to it. You seem to really want to control people and force them into your line of thinking.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
24. Project much?
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:06 PM
Jan 2017

Did I say to throw people off of DU? Nope. But did it stop you? Nope. Talk about wanting to control people....

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
65. Do you think
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 10:42 AM
Jan 2017

"there has GOT to be something we can do about it" too?

I don't watch the crap, myself. But I have no desire to try to force others to be like me. DUers have always discussed what's happening on cable 'news'.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
70. I'm yet looking for anyone attempting to force others to be like anyone or anything.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jan 2017

I'm yet looking for anyone attempting to force others to be like anyone or anything. However, if that wee bit of creative fiction is necessary for your bias to continue healthy, vibrant and unwounded, more power to ya!

Response to LanternWaste (Reply #70)

Jetboy

(792 posts)
14. It just works a lot better avoiding cable tv altogether for me.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:34 PM
Jan 2017

The next second I spend worrying about what some corporate paid shill has to say will be the first in a very long time.



ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
20. Now HBO
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 10:58 PM
Jan 2017

is where it's at. At least on GOT they kill off all the aholes in super nasty ways that we can only dream about in the real world.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
21. Thank goodness for Netflix, HULU, Acorn and Amazon Prime.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:00 PM
Jan 2017

Although I do try and get my news. I watch Stephen Colbert and Seth Meyers. I can usually get a pretty good idea of the latest happenings from them.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
23. I couldn't disagree with the OP more
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:05 PM
Jan 2017

Don't want to argue, and I do see your position, but I can't buy into shutting myself off from the world that everyone else sees.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
79. We have to be aware and curious enough...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:40 PM
Jan 2017

to discern fact from opinion.

I don't watch Fox News propaganda or AM Joe because of the excessive demonstrable lies, but there are facts buried everywhere in M$M, and to just turn it over to the rightwing propaganda machine with 'the left' checking out is only feeding the beast.

CNN and afternoon/evening MSNBC are still watchable. So is BBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS. If we stop watching, they will all follow the Fox News model - which remains #1 in cable news - since "we" don't watch the "other" news.

When we subscribe to and support the Washington Post and the New York Times - and Vanity Fair! - we send a message. "This is the news and opinion we want to hear."

If the Wall Street Journal gets all the subscribers, that's all we get.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
26. All the way up to the point where they say something you agree with...
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:07 PM
Jan 2017

Then it's OK, right?

How much do I love being told what to do, think, watch or feel by other DU'ers?

Lots

hunter

(38,317 posts)
66. There's plenty of less biased news sources.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 11:28 AM
Jan 2017

I generally read our local papers and their websites for local news, and the BBC for national and international news. Their biases are fairly consistent and easily accounted for.

I also read quite a few more specialized science and technology websites and journals.

My television only plays movies. That's all it does. No cable, no satellite, no broadcast, and best of all, no advertising. I like to find DVDs in thrift stores, and recent movies show up on Redbox soon enough. I'm also becoming an aficionado of Netflix. One of our kids is an enthusiastic fan of lower to medium budget movies and television series, especially the screenwriting, and it's rubbed off on me.

I feel like I'm pretty well informed. But I don't know any of the newscasters people talk about here. Greta, Rachel, Tweety, huh???

UTUSN

(70,710 posts)
68. About (only?) monitoring "less biased sources" - the assumption is that those of us who *do* monitor
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jan 2017

opposition sources are not able to detect the bias. In fact, doing the detecting is the basic reason for monitoring those. This has been said many times over the DU years: "Hold your friends close but your enemies closer."

The flip side is not to only hear what we want to hear. That's what most Faux Propaganda Network fans do, is to patronize the outlet that tells them what they agree with.

It's opposition-research, watching out for what "they" are up to and therefore figuring out how to counter them.

It's critical thinking - processing what's being put in front of us and separating what is b.s.

There's a short story somewhere that I can't find anymore by Romain ROLLAND from during and about the rise of Fascism, in which a highly cultured, educated, High Art fellow, a professor, is totally shocked and appalled when he realizes what is happening with the coming establishment of horrific barbarity. So he shuts himself up in his estate with his paintings, music, books. Solitary confinement in his world the way he wants it to be. That's about what the head-in-the-sand is about.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
74. I recognized the Trump horror from people I interact with.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:09 PM
Jan 2017

I was having an increasing number of wtf? moments in casual conversations with right wing Catholics and Evangelicals. They were acting like Trump was God's Chosen One. That didn't come from television, that came from their church communities.

Another ugly batch of Trump supporters were the naive Libertarians on technical boards, the vast majority of them affluent white guys who are EXTREMELY uncomfortable around women and minorities, to the point they will harass any who step onto their turf.

The biggest threat to our democracy is these affluent white guys, those who voted for Trump, and those who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton.

I think the Democratic Party needs to be the party of EVERYONE else, even if it means supporting candidates who are to the right of the average DU poster. The party also needs more women, especially women who can connect with the concerns of "red state" women voters.

My own views are radically socialist, and I'm an environmental extremist. (I think the interstate highway system was one of the great catastrophes of the 20th century and I loathe automobiles and airliners...) Nevertheless I enthusiastically supported Obama and Clinton. My voting is entirely practical. Here in the U.S.A. I'll never be able to enjoy the representation of a politician who shares my views.

I don't need to watch television news to come to any of these conclusions.

UTUSN

(70,710 posts)
75. So (not being hostile) your world is your-corner-of-the-world, an anecdoctal exercise
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jan 2017

based on who you interact with.

Anthony BOURDAIN had a show on "Rome" in which he featured a woman who is totally world-weary, blasé, turned off by politics, who has never voted and never will, and she said that all she cares to know about is what goes on and affects her own neighborhood. Pretty much the same as the ROLLAND story.

Anyway, you and I can't convince each other, we're just clarifying.

On (my) bright side, here you are at DU and this is probably enough for a glimpse into some of what is going on out there, which is fine with me, not that you need my approval or to meet my expectations, haha.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
83. Television isn't any less anecdotal.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:04 PM
Jan 2017

But yeah, I do get glimpses of what's happening on television here on DU. It's the only place I see clever television commercials. It's the only place I see Colbert, or SNL.

The few television ads for Clinton I saw, I saw here.

UTUSN

(70,710 posts)
86. "what's happening ontv" -I realize "MSM" is the thread topic &I broadened it tothe whole "out there"
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:09 PM
Jan 2017

So: Colbert/SNL/Clinton-ads - looks like even here you select what you want. Fine. O.K., as I said (repeating myself), there is no goal here of you and I convincing each other, and when things start repeating, the futility of continuing the non-discussion speaks for itself.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
29. Haven't watched since Rachel had the blonde Goebles on
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:11 PM
Jan 2017

and when I did it was free stream, cut my cable TV a year ago.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
32. RM has Been a suck up at times, but she calls them out too. RM called DT a LIAR last week.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:15 PM
Jan 2017

Who else will even say that? They contributed to the takeover. However, they are still better than fox and CNN, with their eyelash fluttering Republican panelists, who get equal or more time than real journalists.

randr

(12,412 posts)
34. The MSM is NOT the enemy
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:16 PM
Jan 2017

Some very unAmerican people have injected a distrust of information into our discussions in order to distract and divide us.
The twisted values of Trump and the people he has infected with his hatred are the enemy.
Media outlets that spread fake news and spread obvious propaganda are not the MSM, our American press and media.
The world, of late, has become very black and white. The grey area is the swamp. Know what side you are on.
The demoralization of the MSM is part of the problem. The 1st Amendment is our most important right and freedom. We can not allow distrust of this American institution to separate us. The MSM is the exercise of this right and when we deny the validity of the institution we are very close to losing this essential right.
You have a mind, use it. Learn how to listen and make your own decisions based on your principles. Do not think you can gain any ground by beating the messenger.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
52. I agree. Right wingers believe media is left leaning, we believe it leans right. It's not hard
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:27 AM
Jan 2017

to discern facts if one cares to look. Not popular view around here, though.

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
64. When it becomes propaganda
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jan 2017

It should no longer be able to hide behind the protections of the 1st Amendment.

Germany had a free press until they didn't. If I recall, it didn't take long for that change to occur.

Refusing to watch, or better yet... Boycotting their advertisers to stop blatant propaganda is essential to preserving freedom of speech...Not destroying it

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
39. Beg all you want. I'll watch whatever I choose to.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:22 PM
Jan 2017

All those "fuckings" just make you look hysterical, which undermines the urgency of whatever cause you're talking about.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
42. Threw that garbage out the window 10 years ago and never looked back.
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:33 PM
Jan 2017

That was cable, I actually became aware of the scam the media runs back in the early 1990s. Changed the way I see the world, was forced to look for information and not be spoon fed it by propaganda artists.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
43. I'm with Bucky on this one . .
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:35 PM
Jan 2017

time for Maxrand to work on his vocabulary.

His (got to be male) language only distracts from his
message - such as it is.

He might want to expend a little effort and give some
real arguments and evidence for his views.

(He might start by reading some McChesney & Solomon - both Bill and Norm)

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
63. Sorry, spent 30 years in the Navy
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 10:21 AM
Jan 2017

And sometimes I use Boatswain's Mate language.

I am also not advocating "head in the sand" shutting off the world.

I am frustrated by the Dems lack of fight and complacency.

I began warning over 20 years ago about hate radio. I saw it turn my brother from a sane Union family Democrat into a right-wing Rushbot in less than a year.

I have been stationed all over this country. Do you know that in deep blue California on the drive from Lemoore in the central valley to San Diego, there are spots where EVERY AM station you can tune in has Limbaugh and Hannity spewing their racist antidemocratic hate-filled propaganda?

Blue cities that went 70-30 in favor of Hillary have nothing but hate-filled Retrumplican propaganda on their most powerful and influential radio stations. Why do we sit back and allow that?

Universities that are supposed to be bastions of critical thinking and learning broadcast their overly African American athletes sports on stations that spend the other 165 hours a week broadcasting racism hatred and anti-intellectualism.

Sorry if my language sometimes offends. I'm more offended by the lack of fight.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
69. You make excellent points, and . .
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jan 2017

thanks for being civil.

I totally agree about Reich Wing hate radio - it has totally
transformed the political culture where I live in north central
Ohio, and not for the better.

Others agree with us - I met a former state senator from Iowa
a few weeks ago who is equally alarmed.

It amazes me that Dem leaders do not take the hate radio threat
seriously - they ignore it at their great peril, and ours too
unfortunately.

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
44. Not watching msm does not mean not being informed!
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:35 PM
Jan 2017

Plenty plenty of news to stream from sources that are real and accurate. BBC, guardian, NYT, here, politisusa just to name a few. The msm plays nice to don the con because it sells. Why would anyone want to listen to that??

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
84. I consider myself pretty well informed.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:24 PM
Jan 2017

I haven't watched a "mainstream" news show in ages.

Between online offerings, Free Speech TV, and websites like this one, I think I have a pretty good idea what's going on. I don't need Chuck Todd to spoon feed me his worthless "analysis". In fact, I can pretty much predict what he'll have to say on any subject.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
46. I'm a lot more "Sam Seder analyzed that" or "Randi Rhodes detailed the process exhaustively today"
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:38 PM
Jan 2017

Which is how it should be.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
48. Donald Trump Goes on Twitter Rampage Against Corrupt, Dishonest Media
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:40 PM
Jan 2017

I guess Trump has some ideological soul mates DU.

http://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-dishonest-media-new-york-times-twitter-rampage/

Donald Trump stepped up his attack on the media Sunday with a series of tweets accusing the press of protecting Hillary Clinton, writing false stories about him, and even bias coverage of this rallies.

“I am not only fighting Crooked Hillary, I am fighting the dishonest and corrupt media and her government protection process,” Trump wrote. “People get it!”

He followed up shortly after with, “It is not ‘freedom of the press’ when newspapers and others are allowed to say and write whatever they want even if it is completely false!”

Trump repeatedly called the New York Times “failing” during the series of tweets, and wasn’t shy about his opinion that the media is covering for Clinton. He sent eight anti-media tweets in a 24-hour period, typically slipping in a Clinton jab in addition to the assault on press.



flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
53. I disagree. We need to get news from all sources and support Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:28 AM
Jan 2017

and especially Lawrence O'Donnell.

They get stories we wouldn't have otherwise.

Their analysis helps and Rachel knocked Conway off her throne in her interview

still_one

(92,219 posts)
54. while on the day after election I downgraded by satellite service so I
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:37 AM
Jan 2017

essentially just receive the locals. No CNN, no MSNBC, no fox, no CNBC, and couldn't be happier,

I would not presume a value judgement on those who wish to utilize their services

To me it is a waste of time. It is based on sensationalism, exaggeration, and lies.

Each to our own though

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
55. The fact is, I CAN'T STAND watching for more than a few minutes anyway.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:44 AM
Jan 2017

So I have stopped de facto. Unfortunately, I've been watch equally stupid stuff: true crime, etc.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
57. In July of 2008 I moved to my current location.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:13 AM
Jan 2017

I decided not to get a TV for a couple of reasons. First was that I didn't feel as if I could afford the TV itself, nor the cost of cable. I'd been recently divorced and had limited financial resources. The other reason, that seems trivial but was actually quite important, was that the only place to locate a TV in my new apartment would be directly in front of the only window in the living room. This was in New Mexico, with that very strong Northern New Mexico light, which would have meant keeping the blinds drawn on that window any time I might want to watch TV. Which would have been blocking out part of that window anyway.

The financial reasons really were more important, but I thought of this as an experiment. Something temporary. Even though I'd been without TV four or so previous times in my life, I didn't see this as permanent. In the past I'd always gone back to TV, so no doubt I would at some point this time. Well, to be honest, the earlier longest no TV period, some six or so years, had only ended when I moved in with the man I eventually married (and the divorce from whom led me to this latest no TV experiment) who had a TV and an early version of cable.

I don't want to be totally trashing TV. There are lots of good things to watch, even if you and I differ about what's good.

But here's the essential point. If you have regular TV, whether by cable, satellite, or one of the marvelous antennas or boxes so readily available now, you are locked into their system. You watch when they broadcast. So okay, you might have some recording system, but trust me, you are still locked into their schedule.

I'm not totally cut off from what's out there. I watch on the internet. I have Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon, and I'm sure I'm missing several other excellent sources of shows. PBS is pretty good about putting shows up on their website. And in truth, there are very many excellent shows out there, too many to keep up with no matter how you watch.

But here's the main thing I want to point out. No commercials. None. Zip. Nada. When first relocated, in 2008, I was somewhat astonished at the lack of commercials, especially political ones, given it was an major election year. And I'd been watching normal TV (cable) for a number of years at that point. Wow. How nice. I get to make decisions about who I'll vote for based on what I think of the candidates, not ads telling me that someone I might otherwise vote for has been torturing hamsters since 7th grade.

Another interesting point. For a long time, whenever I was in a hotel room (and I'm in one at least three times a year, often more) I'd turn on the TV and see what was on. I found I was made crazy by the advertising. So much so, that at least a year ago the TV in my room became invisible. I simply didn't turn it on.

As for breaking news, no problem. Whenever I see something like that, such as the recent shootings at the Fort Lauderdale airport, I simply Google TV stations in that city. Usually at least one is live streaming their coverage, which is often much better than what I'd get on CNN or any of the other networks. The point is, I don't miss any real news. And I'm not sucked into things like wall to wall coverage of a relatively trivial event.

Oh. And I read books. What a novel concept.

So my advice to anyone who cares: cut the cord. Get rid of cable or the satellite or whatever. DO NOT think of it as permanent. Think of it as an experiment (as I did). If you're happy without, great. Continue that. If you are miserable without, go back, and no apologies to anyone.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
58. Have been off since the second Iraq war
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:17 AM
Jan 2017

Did they ever find the WMDs they were so breathlessly sputtering on about?

That and reality shows got me off the idiot box

Haven't missed a goddamned thing

To each their own though

TomJulie

(98 posts)
60. Agree...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:01 AM
Jan 2017

All these MSM is now so depressing. My wife and I pick and chose what we want to read or watch from the Internet.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
67. Nope. I'll continue watching it, but fact check what I see.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 11:30 AM
Jan 2017

Alternative news is not the answer. As we saw, there's tons of fake news out there, being spread around the Internet.

Instead of boycotting MSM, we need to watch it with care and check it ourselves.

We need to watch everything we can and work to sort it all out.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,841 posts)
73. +1. The last thing we need to be doing is fleeing to our individual little bubbles.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jan 2017

I'd add, not only fact check the MSM but hold them accountable when they lie or get lazy.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
77. Do you mean cable news?
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jan 2017

If so, I couldn't agree more. MSM, however, includes lots of reputable sources.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
81. Corporate media...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:01 PM
Jan 2017

is pretty bad.. I'll tune in when I need to - like last night for Bernies town hall forum... good stuff, for the most part.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
82. Agree completely, it's no news but entertainment without any journalistic integrity!!!
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:02 PM
Jan 2017

It is all about ratings and money so don't be an enabler.

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
85. i say the same damn thing. gerbilism. i won't watch any news channel. SQUIRREL!
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 02:45 PM
Jan 2017

those dummy vids need to go far & wide.

RealityChik

(382 posts)
87. I get all my news from Samantha Bee and South Park!
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 03:30 PM
Jan 2017

Not really, but I need frequent doses of pathos to keep from going insane!

The only MSM person I tune in for is Chris Hayes. Otherwise, TV broadcast news is a waste of time. On radio, still love Democracy Now. Used to be a Thom Hartmann fan but now, not so much. He has lost his edge--he doesn't do controversy anymore. On the web, over the last 4-5 years, I even consider Huffpost, BBC News and Raw Story to be MSM. I do love The Guardian, tho.

I use an RSS feed for all my news from dozens and dozens of news websites and blogs. Too time consuming to visit ALL those websites individually every day.

And, of course, DU at least twice daily.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Please! I'm "effing" beg...