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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTeddy Roosevelt quote:
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
---- Theodore Roosevelt
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)A good thing. Fuck him. He was still a Republican m
Hekate
(90,714 posts)...benefited humanity or was worth a damn.
Your concern concerning Teddy Roosevelt's statement on how not to be a cringing subject of a dictator is duly noted.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)I wonder if there's a human being in the history of humanity that meets his specifications?
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Fuck him.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...would have deported everyone of African linage to Africa. So by your logic, the Republican President who ended slavery, preserved the Union, etc. should be derided.
Just as FDR who gave us the New Deal, Social Security, helped to defeat the Nazi's, etc. was an anti-Semite.
All great people have flaws that are often a product of the times. You want perfection, seek Jesus....but from the sound of your posts, you think yourself perfect, and thus Jesus.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Sorry. Rockefeller was a thug too. Ask what he did to us at Ludlow. People white wash history.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...that even an asshole like Carnegie was like "Dude, chill the fuck out!"
Teddy wasn't perfect, neither Lincoln, Jefferson (who owned slaves), Washington, etc. However, if it wasn't for Teddy, we may have never had National Parks and a dam in Yosemite valley (bad enough they put one in Hetch Hetchy) and silent geysers in Yellowstone due to being used as geo thermal energy. We would also be slaves to monopolies and in a permanent "lower class". Teddy was a racist, sure...but so was a significant majority of the nation. I can separate out the good ideas from the bad and push the good ones and give credit where its due for them. But to lambast everything is like saying we should stop using phones because Bell was associated with Eugenics.
Berlin Vet
(95 posts)President Roosevelt was one of our greatest presidents. He stood up to big business, protected the environment, and was basically the reverse of our current Republicans. Read a bio on him and you will be amazed.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And established the National Park System.
But that was when the GOP was a sane Party.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)For hyphenated Americans". Same bullshit different Republican. Nixon passed the first environmental law. They still suck.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)How about dual-citizenship Americans?
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Same shit we are hearing today about Mexicans and Muslims only then it was Chinese and Italians. He was, at heart, a racist who like Drumpf believed in a white America.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Nothing as benign as that, I am sure.
kentuck
(111,101 posts)Thanks!
alarimer
(16,245 posts)It is equally as true when "our" guy is president, maybe more so.