Mother and her boyfriend rape, murder, and dismember their 14 year old adopted daughter

[Calculating]

What the hell is wrong with people these days? How do ideas like this even come up? "Oh honey, you know what would be wild? Raping and murdering my adopted kid!" These people are filthy evil freaks who tarnish the imagine of humanity. Hope they get the death penalty honestly.


An arrest and allegations of a rape-murder fantasy in Abington teen's dismemberment
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20170108_Arrest_expected_tonight_in_Abington_teen_s_dismemberment.html
McDaniel, STAFF WRITER

Update: The Bucks County District Attorney's Office announced Sunday morning that it was charging Sara Packer, the adoptive mother of 14-year-old Grace Packer, with homicide and related offenses in the death of her daughter.

This is a breaking news story that will be updated. Here is our earlier report.

The missing 14-year-old Abington teen found dismembered in Luzerne County was killed by her adoptive mother and mother's boyfriend as part of a rape-murder fantasy the two shared, authorities alleged early Sunday morning.

Sullivan and Packer planned Grace's murder for more than a year, killed her in July, stored her body in the attic of their rented home in Quakertown for nearly four months and later cut it up, according to the affidavit of probable cause against Sullivan. But first, Sullivan raped Grace while her mother watched, the criminal complaint says.

"This was a sexual fantasy that was shared between Jacob Sullivan and Sara Packer, and Grace Packer was the object of that rape-murder fantasy," Bucks County District Attorney Matthew D. Weintraub said.
http://media.philly.com/images/1200*800/gracepacker_sarapacker_jacobsullivan1200.jpg

[benld74]

1. Karma is wringing its hands awaiting these two

[Maru Kitteh]

14. It would seem Karma is a self-soothing fantasy, and an oftentimes cruel one at that.

Otherwise there would be little need of any justice system at all.

Where is the innocent girl's "Karma?"

We have laws and penalties that are, ostensibly at least, based upon reason. We arrived upon this system shortly after the formation of societies because for some reason "the gods" never got around to punishing people who violated norms, so we took it into our own Earthly hands.

[Hortensis]

2. "These days?" The disinformation machine trying to convince

everyone that today's America is sick and must be saved before it collapses is always pleased with "what's wrong with people these days?" Maybe give that one a thought before you move on from this dreadful tragedy for your own good?

[Ilsa]

3. I guess one will turn on the other, blame

The actual murder on them and get life in prison while the other gets the death penalty. I won't cry over that. That poor girl. I can't help but wonder if there were any signs of troubling behavior of the woman when she went through adoption?

[mythology]

4. I really don't understand these multiple person attacks

I can see how somebody would decide to do something this horrible alone, but I couldn't see myself going up to anybody I know and saying "hey would you like to commit murder or rape with me?"

[Calculating]

8. I suspect they meet online

It definitely does seem weird how two people who are both this demented somehow meet up. You'd think one of the two would stop and think at some point "You know, this seems really messed up".

[bettyellen]

9. Sociopaths seek out partners they can make feel completely dependent on them....

And push their boundaries further and further. They'll tell any kind of lie to protect them. It's sick but common in child abuse scenarios.

[AngryAmish]

5. There seems to be a nationwide depravity contest.

[Hum]

10. If So.....

...then Florida has a huge lead.

[Generic Brad]

6. There had to have been some sort of drugs involved

It is highly unlikely that two people in a non-impaired state of mind would do such horrific deeds.

[Schema Thing]

7. Minds can be and frequently are impaired w/o the use of drugs.

[Igel]

13. For a year.

Drugs may have been involved, but let's put the blame where it belongs.

[malaise]

11. Throw away the keys

[LeftInTX]

12. +++++

[StevieM]

15. My heart goes out to the birth family. Here is an article of her first mom talking about

what happened to her daughter. It includes a video interview.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Birth-Mother-of-Teen-Grace-Packer-Found-Dead-in-Luzerne-County-Northeast-Pennsylvania-Woods-Calls-Adopted-Mother-Evil-Sara-Packer-408553515.html

[Lurks Often]

16. It's stories like this that make me in favor of cruel & unusual punishment.

[Initech]

17. This is so fucked up. Lock these fuckers up and throw away the key.