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If you weren't aware of it - 70%, yes - 70%- of olive oil sold in the U.S. is fake. Basically, it's the left-overs from quality olive oil sold in Europe and around the globe (Those stupid Americans will buy anything). Get a tanker full of oil, mix this with that type of oil (sunflower and such) and bottle it in a nice jar with maybe a olive pasted on the front - who'll know the difference.
AVOID THESE BRANDS:
Pompeian
Bertolli
Colavita
Star
Sasso
Antica Badia
Primadonna
Carapelli
Mazola
Felippo Berio
Safeway
Whole Foods
Carapelli
Coricelli
Mezzetta
And these are good ones:
Corto Olive
Ottavio
Omaggio
Bariani Olive Oil
Lucini
Kirkland Organic
Lucero
Olea Estates
McEvoy Ranch Organic
Cobram Estate
California Olive Ranch
Site gives a simple refrig test for olive oil and more info:
http://www.anonews.co/olive-oil-fake/
Personal Note: Bought and used Bertolli for years , if not decades. On a suggestion bought and used California Olive - God, what a difference. Life's too short, get the good stuff - you're worth it.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)wondering if that's another fake. Sold at Whole Foods.
tenorly
(2,037 posts)I'm of Italian descent, and have only rarely gone a day without olive oil on something ever since I can remember.
Consequently, I can smell colza, soy, or (egads!) paraffin in olive oil the instant I open the bottle. While use of such adulterants in olive oil itself is probably more unusual the the article implies, I can tell you that its use in sun-dried tomato jars is indeed very common (Mezzetta and Alessi are probably the worst).
Salute!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)think i'll have some now
tenorly
(2,037 posts)catmando
(1 post)I just did the fridge test and it never solidified even after 40 minutes.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)Yikes. CA Olive Ranch is pretty good.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)It is recommended olive oil be used within 18 months of harvesting.
so, that is another thing to check on labels.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)I always smell my olive oil when I open the bottle. If it smells the least bit rancid, out it goes.
classykaren
(769 posts)Squinch
(50,954 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)Kirkland brand. I have both in my pantry along with Avocado oil. Each bottle will last about 2-3 months we cook a lot and use a lot healthy fats. They also carry Kerry Gold grass fed butter and pastured eggs. They are pricier, but a good value for the money.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Just checked and we've got California Olive Ranch next to the stove.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Defeats the purpose
wordpix
(18,652 posts)DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)It always makes break out.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)Kirkland Extra Virgin Toscano
Seasonal and in limited quantities. Comes in glass bottles with the harvest date prominently noted.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)just be sure to keep it further away from the stove
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Does anyone know?
Lucini is very good but expensive.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)It seems the one we buy (Trader Giotto's Extra Virgin Olive Oil) has issues.
Others don't.
We now buy the Kirkland brand, although, it's sold in plastic. :O
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Looks like that's the best.
Thanks!
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)I've been bamboozled by corrupt corporations again. I'll know better next time.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)My current brand, Partanna, not on list.
packman
(16,296 posts)Put it in the frig. a day - if it turns solid yellow, good stuff. If still liquid, been diluted and fake.
7962
(11,841 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)label that they could put on CA grown, processed and bottled oil so that you could trust it. That effort was shut down by the importers.
trof
(54,256 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)Doesn't prevent mislabeled imports.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)A pilot program was ordered to be launched in a bill that never became law:
http://www.eater.com/2016/4/25/11503910/olive-oil-fraud-fda-testing
https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/olive-oil-business/north-america/u-s-congress-directs-fda-to-test-imported-olive-oils/51259
But that's as far as it's gone so far.
Back in 2013, there was an olive oil import control provision that made it into an apropos bill and it was stripped by an amendment sponsored by Rep. Gibson (R-NY).
https://www.congress.gov/amendment/113th-congress/house-amendment/213
NBachers
(17,119 posts)She was telling me last week about how the big fake producers are bringing all their garbage olive oil in and displacing the local California Growers. That said, you can stop into some of the local olive product stores up there, and get some truly exquisite local olive oil.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)They import junk oil into Greece and Italy and then are able to export it as Italian and Greek olive oil, two of the (formerly) most prestigious olive oil producing regions in the world.
underpants
(182,826 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)See above post or refer to link
underpants
(182,826 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)That insulted my intelligence and it makes me very angry. Now, who approached you first? Barzini or Tattaglia? That oil would go well with some fishes that sleep in the deep.
Docreed2003
(16,862 posts)Unless the Corleone's are still making it (lol...that's the brand from The Godfather)
Docreed2003
(16,862 posts)underpants
(182,826 posts)Auggie
(31,173 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)... did not meet the criteria set by regulatory agencies for the "extra virgin" label, the testing did not determine that the oils were "fake" or not made from olives.
http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/oliveoil.asp
MOSTLY FALSE
packman
(16,296 posts)not that it's "fake", or not made from olives - just doesn't give the true % of "TRUE" olive oil. Like needs a label "60% Olive oil, 40% other oils such as sunflower oil"
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)The study was whether virgin olive oil was correctly labeled.
"According to snopes"
I had heard about substituted oil years ago in an article I found on the web, but Snopes did not address that.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I would have at least expected that Whole Foods would have decent EV Olive Oil. I plan to complain. When I lived in SF we used to get it straight from the small EVOO producers in wine country. No fancy bottles, but very good. I don't have that luxury here, so I would like to have the option of buying the real thing.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)underpants
(182,826 posts)See most post above
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)It's a local product so I've been buying it at the Farmer's Market for years.
mopinko
(70,113 posts)this is a bullshit, typical fake news story. link to snopes in the thread.
come on now. lets be smarter than that.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,721 posts)does not meet the standard for "extra virgin" and sometimes does include other kinds of oils. The article, as Snopes points out, goes too far with the claim that many of there brands are not olive oil at all, but it's true that the industry has little or no quality control outside California. A better reference, with more to back it up, is the book Extra Virginity:
mopinko
(70,113 posts)i'm just makin a general comment here that this sort of stuff doesnt belong here. fake news often contains a kernel of truth. we need to be more discerning.
They_Live
(3,233 posts)that are posted on that site? All seems pretty fakey to me, too. Fake Anonymous.
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)"Generally, olive oils are mixed with sunflower, canola or colza oil, chemically deodorized and then flavored."
My understanding from light reading over the years is that its standard practice in Europe to heat the pressed product to remove the odor of rancidity. The result then needs to be flavored to reintroduce the expected smell and taste.
US olive oil standards are lower than EU, so they can freely export their worst products here. The best standards I know of are set by the California Olive Oil Council, and I look for the COOC stamp, along with a date of production.
All respect to "let's be smarter", and I try to fact-check things myself. I think one of the problems with olive oil is that there's a great deal of money involved, and many players with their own agendas - not the easiest thing to research.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)ksoze
(2,068 posts)The article may be a bit hysterical. Not saying it may not still be accurate, but....
A letter from Colvita CEO on the study:
http://main.colavita.com/a-letter-from-our-ceo/
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)anyway:
"The testing methods employed in the report had been rejected as unreliable by the International Olive Council" per Mr. Colavita
packman
(16,296 posts)just threw doubt on the testing. He danced around the issue.
Give it the fridge test.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,721 posts)It describes how corrupt the olive oil industry is, and advises buying California olive oil because they have some quality control. I've been using California Olive Ranch ever since I read it. More here: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/08/books/extra-virginity-by-tom-mueller-a-word-on-olive-oil-review.html
Vinca
(50,276 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Vinca
(50,276 posts)George Eliot
(701 posts)If I buy extra virgin. I expect it to be the conventional quality rhat defines extra virgin.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)esp. branded names on the list -whole foods etc. that although I have never tried them at least sound like they would be striving for pure but obviously not
Freethinker65
(10,023 posts)And tested out ok. Just checked a small Pompeian bottle in my pantry (needed some prior to a Costco run) and my bottle indicates Tunisia, Greece, and Argentina. I remember reading about huge tankers that would pull up to the Italian coast specifically so production labels could say bottled in Italy! My large EVOO bottle is Kirkland Organic because I had read the report years back.
Nitram
(22,803 posts)and sold by companies in Italy and elsewhere. I've been using Oriston brand Greek olive oil with a refillable bottle for a few years now. It just tastes better.
potone
(1,701 posts)I only buy Greek extra virgin olive oil and the difference is immediately apparent. It isn't sold in most grocery stores. I get it from a store that specializes in imported foods, mostly from the Mediterranean region. I won't buy Italian olive oil because most of what is sold here is clearly not the real thing.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)but if you click through to the UC report itself, Whole Foods is not mentioned at all.
http://olivecenter.ucdavis.edu/research/files/report041211finalreduced.pdf
Also note the report is partly underwritten by California Olive Ranch.
We've been concerned about our olive oil and mostly stay away from
mass market brands but a couple of things don't quite stand up to scrutiny here.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)is the fraudulent aspect, not whether or not it is olive oil AT ALL. Consumers want the "EV" as highest quality.
A headline does not an article make, people.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)"70% of Olive oil available in stores in the US has actually been cut with cheaper, nastier oils meaning its fake!"
followed with "7 of the biggest olive oil manufacturers in the US have been cutting their products with cheaper, inferior oils (such as sunflower oil or canola oil)"
DemoTex
(25,397 posts)My oboe did not care.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)Our Estate olive oil is hand-harvested with student volunteers from the only organic grove at UC Davis. This spicy oil has grassy and herbaceous flavors, with a touch of cinnamon. The high antioxidant content is reflected in a healthy bitterness. Try our Estate Oil with crusty bread, baked potato, popcorn, or any other food that will allow the flavors to shine. Only 325 cases produced -- this oil sells out fast!
Size: 250ML
Item: 2046040
Price: $15.00
http://ucdavisstores.com/MerchList.aspx?txtSearch=olive+oil&searchtype=Description&drpsearch2=Description&searchin=All+Merchandise
Their field blends of olive oil are a little cheaper and more plentiful, but not by much.
I will attest the quality of these olives are fantastic because I harvested them for years until they ran me off when they opened the UC Davis Olive Center in the Robert Mondavi Institute for Wine and Food Science. My field blend oil was smoooth, and had a Pippin apple nose, an avocado taste, and a slight hint of banana at the finish; it was to die for.
I loved poaching olives around the extensive campus because the had a lot of totally exotic varieties to select from, unlike the boring Mission olives I find everywhere along the roads. My frantoio really got excited when I brought in my field blend.
Sunny05
(865 posts)paleotn
(17,930 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)I used Bertolli for years because it was conveniently available at the supermarket. Then I splurged and bought an artisanal olive oil from Sicily and ... wowza. All my life, I'd been missing out.
Now I use only artisanal oil for salads and finishing. And California Olive Ranch for other cooking purposes.
Igel
(35,317 posts)Depends how hard you crush and press the olives. The first pressing is higher in flavor, it congeals when chilled, it's darker in color. For some kinds, "chilled" is 68 degrees--so at room temperature the stuff goes translucent.
The last bit you get out, after heating and stirring and finely crushing, is pale, lower in flavor, and doesn't congeal.
But both are from olives, and both are olive oil. They have different purposes. Extra virgin is pointless for soap; it has a much lower smoke point for cooking (in fact, it often tastes bad because all the stuff that gives it flavor and color degrades). The standard, last pressing is like any other oil for salad dressings and pesto.
You pick the kind of oil that suits your purpose. It's like what you get from a cow. There's suet, there are different cuts of beef, and there's milk. You'd never want to make biscuits with tenderloin or rump roast, you wouldn't add suet to your coffee, and trying a nice piece of roast milk with gravy is silly sounding. Pure cream makes good butter, bad cheese. And if you want filet mignon for your chili, you're wasting money.
Most of this is honor talking: No way I'm going to be ripped off, I'm not that stupid. Knee-jerking-off in response to that is a sure-fire way to be able to say, "No, I refuse to be ripped off, but please, trick me using my vanity and pride, I like to be trickled, um, tickled right here."
matt819
(10,749 posts)And it's fine as far as it goes.
But there are scores and scores of olive oils available in supermarkets, co-ops, health food stores, etc. There are also olive oil and vinegar stores popping up around the country.
Knowing what not to buy is fine. Pretty much all the name brands in the olive oil market. But knowing what to buy is more of a challenge. This list is okay, but it really doesn't account for what appear to be small, family-owned olive oils, or the olive oils in the specialty stores, or. . . you get the idea. Maybe the analogy doesn't hold, but it may be like craft beers. At a certain point the more successful craft beer makers are no longer very craft-y. And there are some craft beers that are anything but, produced, as they are, by the multinational beer makers and marketed as small town craft beers.
elleng
(130,956 posts)phylny
(8,380 posts)From one orchard, 100% non-blended cold pressed evoo - amazing taste:
https://smile.amazon.com/Papa-Vince-Unblended-Unfiltered-Antioxidants/dp/B015T2EEKU/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1483900626&sr=8-2&keywords=papa+vince
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)That article was about how there were few regulations on the product in europe, and how olives tend to go rancid. In europe the practice is to press all the old and new together, and they wind up with a rancid-smelling oil that they then have to cook to eliminate the smell (which also destroys many good things in the oil). They wind up with a tasteless oil, which is then reflavored with extracts or smaller quantities of good oil...
California has a wonderful olive oil industry and excellent standards; my preference is organic california olive oil. The other thing they said is to look for a bottle with a date, as olive oil goes stale within a couple years.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)out on the counter. It oxidizes rapidly.
brooklynite
(94,588 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)You should self delete this bullshit.
mainer
(12,022 posts)I know a number of Italian chefs who agree that most olive oils sold in US grocery stores are cobbled together from the worst Europe has to offer.
Not everyone can appreciate the difference in flavor, and if you can't, then you might as well go for the supermarket stuff because it is cheaper.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)It has a link to their source - Not fake news, just repeated news from another link - one should learn the difference.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I also read the source.
Both are inaccurate.
http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/oliveoil.asp
http://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=9582
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)How do you call it fake news if it lists and links to its sources, and those sources detail their own sources, and so on? Research it before calling "fake news", or the claim means nothing.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)the sources.
To top it off, the measure used to test the olive oil is NOT a reliable method.
http://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=9582
Even Snopes says it's false.
http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/oliveoil.asp
And the source is a fake news site with a heavy right wing slant.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)I hope it's fine.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)99% of their statistics are just made up. If you look at their other articles it would become very apparent.
Remember fake news causes real idiots to shoot real assault weapons near real children eating pizza. Please don't share fake news.
packman
(16,296 posts)and noted what they referenced too - Where did you get that 99% - some fake news source?
http://livetheorganicdream.com/fake-olive-oil-companies-revealed-stop-buying-these-brands-now/
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)Dreams are not reality
Having the same fake news article on multiple sites doesn't make it any less fake.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)from whence the fake news comes...
http://olivecenter.ucdavis.edu/research/files/oliveoilfinal071410updated.pdf
I agree, lots of trash out there... always, always find source/sources
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)That study is about extra virgin olive oil mixed with lower quality olive oil, not about mixing it with sunflower or soy or any such BS.
It's still olive oil
wordpix
(18,652 posts)IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)and doesn't mention any of the brands listed.
We do have an FDA in this country with labeling regulations for ingredients.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,472 posts)The site is anonews.co, not anonews.com. They have a registration by proxy. Look 'em up:
http://www.geektools.com/whois.php
By Eugene Kiely and Lori Robertson
Posted on November 18, 2016
....
Consider the source. In recent months, weve fact-checked fake news from abcnews.com.co (not the actual URL for ABC News), WTOE 5 News (whose about page says its a fantasy news website), and the Boston Tribune (whose contact us page lists only a gmail address). Earlier this year, we debunked the claim that the Obamas were buying a vacation home in Dubai, a made-up missive that came from WhatDoesItMean.com, which describes itself as One Of The Top Ranked Websites In The World for New World Order, Conspiracy Theories and Alternative News and further says on its site that most of what it publishes is fiction.
There were plenty of threads started at DU based on stories from abcnews.com.co. I was hoping that people would study the URLs more carefully from now on.
The large print giveth, but the fine print taketh away.
Always read the fine print.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)From the folks who bring you this:
Assange Appears on FOX News and Destroys the Russia Hack Conspiracy Theory
http://www.anonews.co/assange-russia-hack/
Media Silent as Obama Signs US Ministry of Truth Law to Fund Propaganda Aimed at Americans
http://www.anonews.co/obama-fund-propaganda/
Russian Scientists Produce A Technology That Can Transmute Any Element Into Another!
http://www.anonews.co/russian-scientists-elements/
packman
(16,296 posts)Someone perhaps should have read the article
and noted what they referenced too -
http://livetheorganicdream.com/fake-olive-oil-companies-revealed-stop-buying-these-brands-now/
Are you saying Live the Organic Dream is fake news ???
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)It is very fake
7 of the biggest olive oil manufacturers in the US have been cutting their products with cheaper, inferior oils (such as sunflower oil or canola oil)
Maybe Trump's FDA would allow them to lie on their labels but not Obama's. FDA has strict regulations for this sort of thing. They have to list the ingredients. It is one of the "job killing regulations" Republicans complain about.
deaniac21
(6,747 posts)awful sorce
mainer
(12,022 posts)The most common type of fraud, Campanile explains, is mixing Italian extra-virgin with lower quality olive oils from North Africa and around the Mediterranean. In other cases, a bottle labeled "extra-virgin olive oil" may not be olive oil at all, just a seed oil like sunflower made to look and smell like olive oil with a few drops of chlorophyll and beta-carotene. Major Sergio Tirro of the Italian Carabinieri police, one of the top investigators of food fraud in Europe, showed 60 Minutes' Bill Whitaker just how easy it is to make a realistic-looking fake.
"Olive oil fraud has gone on for the better part of four millennia," Campanile says. "The difference now is that the food supply chain is so vast, so global, and so lucrative that it's easy for the bad guys to either introduce adulterated olive oils or mix in lower quality olive oils with extra-virgin olive oil."
So, what's a foodie to do? Campanile has some suggestions. For starters, he says, look closely at the label. It may have a pretty Italian landscape, but was the oil actually produced in Italy? If so, where? Campanile says he's encouraged when it's from a city in Sicily or Puglia known for producing olive oil.
Since freshness matters, Campanile says, you may want to consider extra-virgin olive oil from California, which can be pressed and shipped more quickly. But if it's Italian you crave, expect to pay more for the real deal. "If you're paying seven bucks or eight bucks for a bottle of Italian extra virgin olive oil," he says, "it's probably not Italian extra-virgin."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-overtime-how-to-buy-olive-oil/
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)Nunez de Prado and my very favorite - Columela.
Taste and quality can vary greatly from year-to-year and harvest to harvest.
Generally speaking, I find Italian oils too bitter and grassy and I've read it's due to them being harvested too early due to the likelyhood of frost in the Tuscan region. Some pure Sicilian oils can be excellent however.
Like Genco, bwahaha!
Unrepentant Fenian
(1,078 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Metro135
(359 posts)One sure way to test if a brand is mostly olive oil and not cut with other oils is to put it into the refrigerator and see if it solidifies.
I've done this with Whole Foods "365" brand -- one of the brands to avoid -- and it does solidify.
mindfulNJ
(2,367 posts)is certified by the COOC (California Olive Oil Council), family owned, and is really good stuff. I buy it by the gallon!
http://www.calivirgin.com
NCjack
(10,279 posts)sold in North Carolina by Food Lion supermarket; when not available, I get Ottavia (Spain) from Costco. I really like Arbequina varietal from Texas Olive Ranch. When I want a special treat, I get an award winner single-source Greek oil (e.g., PJ Kabos). The Greek economy is still suffering, and buying Greek products (available on internet) is a good way to aid small businesses in Greece. Once you try top quality, it is hard to go back to the cheap supermarket stuff with labels that vaguely describe where it was sourced, processed and bottled.
For an introduction to olive oil varietals and infusions, find an Olive Oil speciality shop in your area. I got my introduction (free samples!) in the Olive Oil Store in Jacksonville, FL. These types of shops have spread everywhere. I now live in North Carolina and get my oils at the Blue Sky Oil and Vinegar shop, Durham, NC. To begin your education, start with American Arbequina and Arbosana varietals. Be advised: it is addicting.
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)and whenever I need a kinda bland oil. For salad dressings and anywhere I want the taste of the oil to come through I use my "good" olive oils - my current fave is from Grumpy Goat, a small California producer that turns up frequently at my local farmers' market (I've never seen it in stores). They carry a few varieties, including a field mix of what they just happened to harvest - it can be rather assertive. California's been producing olive oil since the Mission era, but production started taking off in the 1990s: there are large olive groves in Sonoma county, and in the Corning area. Once you see the distinctive grey/green trees you can easily spot them!
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)HeartachesNhangovers
(814 posts)and it's tasty. Not the cheapest, but not expensive at Fred Meyer.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Warpy
(111,267 posts)Most of the brands you listed as fake are actually olive oil mixed with other oils, with the exception of the Bertolli "lite." The yellow stuff has been chemically extracted from the lees after all the good stuff has been pressed out.
Amphorae from ancient shipwrecks have been found with sealed amphorae containing adulterated olive oil, so this has been going on for a very, very long time. It's not just the US that is suffering, they don't bottle the stuff any differently over there.
The best idea is to find one you like and stick with it. Second best is to not be impressed by fancy bottles. And unless you know a little old guy in Spain, North Africa or Greece who still uses his own press and can visit him once a year to see his olives being pressed, paying through the nose for his product, you are most likely going to be getting a little McOil with your olives.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)Or made from other oils. The problem is with the Extra Virgin varieties.
Here are the conclusions from the study performed at UCDavis.
CONCLUSIONS
Our laboratory tests found that the top-selling imported brands of extra virgin olive oil sold in the United States and purchased at retail locations throughout California often failed the IOCs sensory standards for extra virgin olive oil. Sensory analysis showed that these failed samples had objectionable descriptors such as rancid and fusty. Sensory analysis is a sensitive tool to analyze olive oil quality and is an essential component of the IOC olive oil standards, but sensory analysis should be supported by gas chromatographic analyses and other analytical methods. It is essential to support sensory evaluations by chemical tests for volatile compounds that are known to be produced by lipid oxidation.
Our chemical tests indicate that the samples usually pass the IOCs chemical tests even when those samples failed two IOC-accredited sensory panels. Chemical confirmation of the negative sensory results were strongest with the German/ Australian DAGs and PPP tests, followed by IOC tests for UV absorption. The IOC and USDA standards would be more effective in assessing and enforcing olive oil quality by including the German/Australian DAGs and PPP standards.
Our testing indicated that the samples failed extra virgin olive oil standards for reasons that include one or more of the following: (a) oxidation by exposure to elevated temperatures, light, and/or aging; (b) adulteration with cheaper refined olive oil; and (c) poor quality oil made from damaged and overripe olives, processing flaws, and/or improper oil storage
Warpy
(111,267 posts)In the years of hand or animal driven presses, "Extra Virgin" was from the first pressing, with several other grades from there. Now 99% of oil is factory produced from olives from multiple areas around the Mediterranean. Nearly all oil is expelled by rollers and it's all labeled "extra virgin" since it's the one and only pressing, combining several of the old grades. What is left over at the end is chemically treated to produce the pale yellow, "user friendly" stuff that people buy to get the benefits but not the taste.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Buy both Olive Oil and Extra Virgin from COSTCO (Kirkland) in those Gallon jugs. Much more economical.
deminwi
(66 posts)It's great to read that the California olive oil is recommended.
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Very good price at Market Basket.
Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)and many of the wineries around here are diversifying and going into the olive oil business. They started planting olive trees around ten years ago. I don't use much olive oil, but what I do use I buy locally.
bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Over the years as the labels indicated blending olive oils from several
countries, the consistency became thinner and thinner, the color was less
green, and the fruity aroma diminished. I said, oh, these other countries must
grow different olives, or process marginal crop.
Then I had a bottle grown in California. It was really good consistency, less
fruity, more earthy I'd call it, and good flavor. I think I had one from Australia too.
Very good.
Anything that's not "extra virgin" can be chemically processed, or from post-first
pressing.
Incidentally, Congress approved the "extra virgin" label as well as the term Canola
oil, or so I read. Canola is really rapeseed oil, just grown in Canada. These foreign
foods just don't seem very well inspected anymore.
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,005 posts)Glad to have confirmed that it's the real thing.
...fake olive oil?...is there nothing sacred anymore...
"Bought and used Bertolli for years , if not decades."
...yep, me too...
oasis
(49,388 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)I don't see the brands of evoo I usually use on the lists:
Olio beato extra virgin 100% organic
Bragg® Organic Extra Virgin Olive Oil
Did buy and consume a bottle of Carapelli last year. I want my money back. Devious bastards.
Bucky
(54,014 posts)on the other hand Whole Foods doesn't surprise me at all. It's a totally right-wing company
Separation
(1,975 posts)It was maybe a year ago and it was either in Playboy, Maxim, or Popular Science. The gist of the article states the the number 1 counterfeited thing in Italy is olive oil and that it was a huge cash cow for the Mafia in Italy.
forgotmylogin
(7,529 posts)I don't remember the name. They usually have good stuff, including cheapest cold-press coconut oil without a Sam's card.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)According to a friend who checked it out.
packman
(16,296 posts)The article posted has a link - go to it - it is reliable and keep in mind what the post is about. The brand of Olive oil you buy may be diluted with other oils and/or may be a mix of olive oils from other countries.
Your friend is missing the point of the post. If you wish to remain skeptical about it, feel free.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)Dr. Oz is already being sued for libel by the olive oil industry.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kavinsenapathy/2016/12/01/dr-oz-made-false-attacks-on-olive-oil-and-now-hes-getting-sued/#d33348e13e84
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/olive-oil-trade-group-sues-dr-oz-calls/story?id=43886080
Javaman
(62,530 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Response to packman (Original post)
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marble falls
(57,099 posts)Yonnie3
(17,442 posts)seems to be the drift.