Judge Roberts deserves most of the blame for the Affordable Care Act's difficulties

[MattP]

His tweaking of the judgement to make it a tax and letting the states opt out set the stage for higher premiums and he's smart enough to know what was going to happen

[tenorly]

1. And in so doing he mended fences with the Teabags - while keeping his own, socialized health care.

Nice work if you can get it.

[pangaia]

5. Hey, watch it. I grew up in Teaneck.........NJ

[tenorly]

6. Edited accordingly!

[pangaia]

10. Thank you.

[tenorly]

11. Sure thing.

How do folks in general feel about Trump in Teaneck, NJ?

[pangaia]

12. No idea. I haven't lived there since 1963.

Although I did visit for an hour or two on my way back from NYC...


Even visited the apartment where I lived as as kid.

[PoliticAverse]

2. "His tweaking of the judgement to make it a tax" - the Obama administration claimed it was a tax.

That was the reasoning to allow it under Congress' power to tax.

The decision to allow states to opt out of the Medicaid expansion was 7-2 (the reason being
the ACA would have made states that didn't expand lose all their medicaid funding and this
was unfair to the states). Without Roberts it would have been 6-3.

[Hoyt]

3. Plenty of blame; however, I blame states who refused to expand Medicaid even though

their share of any cost was negligible.

[putitinD]

4. +1

[cliffside]

9. We looked for a nephrologist for a friend up to 100 miles and there was none to be found

even though he is in central NJ.

Dems took the discussion of a national HC system off the table, plain and simple, shame on them.

I am not one to cast blame, but can we at least try and to pretend that we all have equal access to c

are be put to rest. The idea that someone who has been afforded access to care under Medicaid has the same chance at accessing care is purely laughable.

[AwakeAtLast]

13. Pence led one of those states

Coincidence?

[Hoyt]

14. As much as I despise Pence, Indiana actually did expand Medicaid in early 2015.

They got permission from the feds to do some things -- some good, some questionable -- that are interesting approaches. My guess is Pence was forced by others to do it. I did not realize Indiana had expanded Medicaid until I heard it on a discussion of ACA the other day. I was surprised.

[uponit7771]

15. +1, this was a heartless evil move.. they knew people needed the expansion

[cliffside]

7. Well I blame everyone but myself always! Yeah that sounds goods, in the meantime costs have not ...

decreased they have increased exponentially, premiums, out of pockets maximums, we love the 2K per year increase in our pocket maximums this year along with premium increase

Health Care was the number one topic before Obama and the Dems took control, he talked about a decrease in premiums of 2K, WTF happened, good talk, empty promises? We are going on our 8th year of paying the annual out of pocket maximum. It becomes apparent when you hope for a hospital for the first 3K deductible instead of a drug that costs over 3K to be the first line, you cannot pick up the prescription unless you have a CC with that limit.

Did our costs decrease, hell no, the opposite has happened, are the Dems so constantly powerless and deemed blameless for all that goes wrong?

Is there no looking back? I am more than willing to look back and blame Bush for the Iraq invasion that destabilized the ME,

Well that is a damn cozy world to live in, blame them, cast a stone.

We need to as much as possible to try and look at our house, not just cast blame.

HC needs a major over haul and not just a smoothing over where specialist docs are over 100 miles away.

Some HC system if you believe in fairy tales. Our system plainly sucks and the Dems took the idea of a national HC off the table with all the twists and turns.

Blame them, but do not forget to look in the mirror.

[uponit7771]

16. BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! You know, or should know, the premium increases would be worse without ACA or

... are you going to pull the same bullshit ass'd lines on us the KGOP is?!

Fuck FUD

[milestogo]

8. Julia Roberts deserves most of the blame for the Affordable Care Act's difficulties

Sorry, its the wee hours and I can't sleep.

[Lee-Lee]

17. The Administration itself called it a tax in their legal arguments

It was a mess where the lawyers in legal filings not only contradicted themselves on if it was a tax or not but they often directly contradicted the Presidents own statements by calling it a tax or defending it as allowed under the power of Congress to tax while he was adamant it wasn't a tax or tax increase:

It was needed for it to survive, but it was messy.