10 most damning findings from report on Russian election interference

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1. Goal was to undermine US faith in democratic process

"We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."

2. Effort was ordered by Putin

"We assess that influence campaigns are approved at the highest levels of the Russian government - particularly those that would be politically sensitive."

3. Putin's grudge

"Putin most likely wanted to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has publicly blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012, and because he holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him."

4. A 'significant escalation'

"Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow's longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations."

more at link: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/07/politics/intelligence-report-russian-interference/index.html

[sarah FAILIN]

1. I was constantly being accused of being a paid troll for Clinton

It started on my local hometown bulletin board, but several places I've posted have accused me of being a Clinton troll... That sounded so crazy to me at the time. Maybe I was being accused by a real Trump troll? Accuse your opponent of being what you are yourself. It makes sense to me. There were probably hundreds of trolls working in each state.

[bettyellen]

2. Same thing happened here. BOBers were often acting as trolls- pushing RT and Wiki and

Stabbing Hillary in the back at every turn.

[sarah FAILIN]

15. This was almost a pure rep board to start

To finish too because they actually blocked me except on my cell phone, lol. No BOB's though, just Trumpsters and their fake news. I just checked and it is full of fake ramblings, lol. The Ft. Lauderdale shooter isn't really mentally ill per them, but an Isis agent. Crazy people and paranoid.

During the off years, this is just an average home town board talking about if the people in the car wrecks were wearing seatbelts or not along with discussing what new restaurants we're getting. Election years they have a HUGE influx of obviously strange posters.

[elmac]

3. Paid trolls have always been a right wing phenomenon

no one on the left ever had enough money to pay for trolls.

[GliderGuider]

4. He, we're believers - we troll for free!

[sarah FAILIN]

16. I tried to tell them that.

No luck.

[TrollBuster9090]

10. Ironic, isn't it? You were probably being accused of being a paid Clinton troll by PAID PUTIN TROLLS

PROJECTION is something that both KGB trolls and Donald Trump do all the time. "I know you are, but what am I" is a tried and true strategy, so it would seem.

[sarah FAILIN]

12. Now I suspect that

Back then before we found everything out I thought they had all flipped out.

[Fast Walker 52]

14. the disinfo campaign against Hillary was fucking INTENSE, and I'm sure it was going on here too

-- who doubts that some trolls infiltrated here pretending to be lefties and pushing anti-Hillary memes?

[mopinko]

17. lotta hindsight goin on right now.

lotta things makin people go hmmmmm.

[sarah FAILIN]

18. Very true.

BTW, I just looked at your farm page. Very Impressive! If you have to eat your roosters, you might try quail. Actually, you should try Quail anyway. They are laying eggs and reproducing at 8 weeks old. Eat all the roosters and they make almost no noise at all.

[mopinko]

19. thanks. it's been an amazing journey.

kinda need a bird that can stand up to city life, tho. roosters are tasty.

[sarah FAILIN]

21. I understand

Quail have a very fast turn around from egg to meat/egg producer but since you have to keep them in a pen they don't forage for any of their own food it would be a little more in them than chickens. I started out eating the eggs last summer when eggs were so high and I was waiting on my chickens to lay. I planned on eating them later on but never did. Everyone I know with them raises them just for meat. Male quail make a weird fluttering call that people don't recognize so they think it's a song bird.

[mopinko]

22. well that last bit might be useful.

oh the trouble my roosters get me into.

[sarah FAILIN]

23. that's pretty common

Nobody likes a rooster, lol. Nobody knows you have Quail at all.

[mopinko]

24. actually a lot of people do.

i have some pretty ardent fans who love to hear them. they are sad that they are now pretty hard to hear.
and many more who just dont notice the sound.

i live in a great hood, mostly.

[sarah FAILIN]

25. good

There are subdivisions with HOA's that limit your hens and strictly prohibit roosters completely. I saw something on your farm page and thought you might live in one of those. The HOA type would really complain if they heard our 2 guineas, lol. We live in the country and don't have to deal with complaints luckily.

Our chickens free range and are hilarious

[mopinko]

26. yeah, i have a friend who got the city ordinances changed

in a town called long grove. they promote themselves as a preservation of rural culture, but didnt allow chickens. go figure.
so my friend spent a couple years and a lot of money getting the ordinance changed. then one of his friends ratted him out the the hoa.
he decided it was time to move at that point and is in colorado now.

i would never live anywhere w a hoa, or a board or any of that.

[FailureToCommunicate]

5. Здесь нечего смотреть

Move along

[Igel]

7. Ничего. нет текста.

[uponit7771]

6. Yeap, the Russian involvement with the US election wasn't just interference they were a factor...

... how much is irrelevant

[Igel]

8. How much is relevant.

Numerous foreign leaders and organizations weighed in and denounced Trump or said that there'd be problems in international relations with him. Those stories were reported here, and it's unlikely that the interviewees thought their quotes would be held until 11/9. That's also interference.

The difference is entirely a matter of "how much."

[uponit7771]

9. This is false on its face, and I agree with Klobuchar that ANY involvement by a foreign intety is

... not a fair election... PERIOD.

The level of involvement is becoming RWTP FUD meme ... it doesn't matter that the factor was .01 or whatever it matters that the factor existed at all.

Some crimes in the US are punishable even if they're CONSPIRED and this is one of them...

Wheter we did it or not to other countries doesn't mean we accept it here in America

[TrollBuster9090]

11. Point 10 was my favorite.

1) Using third party cutouts to transfer the hacked emails to Wikileaks, thus allowing Assange to claim that he 'didn't get them from a government' is a tactic that only fools the stupidest of the stupids. (Like Sean Hannity, Trump voters, and TRUMP HIMSELF.) But hey, if people need a little help with their cognitive dissonance, who are we to argue.


and,

2) Using the line that 'the source of the wikileaks is irrelevant...and a "distraction."' (ie-if the leaks were accurate...what difference does it make what the original source was?) That's a line that's STILL BEING USED by FOX NEWS and half the Republican caucus today. Apparently, Putin's psychology is pretty sound on that one.

[bucolic_frolic]

13. Trump said the election had to be 'fair'

How many times did he use that word. He would only

[Cha]

20. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

[BSdetect]

27. K&R

[yardwork]

28. One of the points references paid trolls:

5. Paid social media trolls
"Moscow's influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations -- such as cyberactivity -- with overt efforts by Russian government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries and paid social media users or 'trolls.'"

[ffr]

29. Sorry CNN, you missed one of the most significant findings, #7

7. Russian media involvement and possible coordination with American RW media?

If CNN was looking, they'd find that the Kremlin's headlines outlined in the report are headlines that were rebroadcast in America by American media outlets.

How did you miss that CNN??? Was the lack of journalistic digging intentional or are you just that stupid!

Where have you seen these RT headlines before?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028439946

[rurallib]

30. mark to return to

[stuffmatters]

31. ...Represent "Moscow's longstanding desire to undermine the US-led democratic order"

To me this is the most powerful and telling sentence in the article. It is not only the long game of Putin/Moscow but also of today's Republican Party. Repubs fear democracy so much that they have even tried the last eight years to rebrand our party as the "democrat" party!

All their hacking & meddling, I wonder if they shut down DU on election eve and thereafter. Certainly a forum of
democratic dissent and opposition was just closed to its members at a crucial time for organizing immediate opposition.

There's really little light between Putin's Russia given away for pennies on the dollar to oligarchs (the richest now being Putin himself) and what has long been the Koch, ALEC driven Repub endgame. Heck, the Repubs aren't even hiding it anymore now that they have unchecked Federal power: just the other day they voted to allow Federal lands/properties, which are our "commons" to be given away essentially for free to their donors. Or just take a gander at Trump's pro privatization/anti reg cabinet that all these Koch puppet Rep Congressmen are salivating over.

Trump's and the Repubs' in Congress disinformation/ propaganda and long term agenda of superpowering the .00000001% at the expense of dismantling our democracy seem scarily close to Putin's record in his own Country and this CNN stated global endgame.