America Has Always Enjoyed Shooting & Killing

[SoCalMusicLover]

We have a long history of it. Going back to the Indians, then the long history of slavery, countless slaves shot and killed.

The old west was fascinated with guns. Jesse James, among many others, used guns to commit regular violence.

It even goes so far as our history of hunting, which continues to this day. Even people on DU will espouse the right to have many guns, so they can go to the mountains, get drunk, and shoot a few innocent deer. Makes me remember the scene in Deer Hunter, where DeNiro fired a warning shot rather than kill a deer, after being traumatized by killing while in Vietnam.

[hibbing]

1. Since 1776, America has been at war 222 out of 239 years

Of course we do! USA! USA! USA!


On edit- That was a brutal movie.

Peace

[guillaumeb]

2. Name a time that the US has not been at war.

That culture of constant war, constant violence, is what laid the foundation for a country with more guns than people.

And many of the people with the guns are constantly taking about their fear of losing their guns to the government.

Which causes many of those same people to go out and buy more guns.

People who are afraid of their fellow citizens and equally afraid and mistrustful of their own government.

[Marengo]

3. Can you provide some links to the applicable posts on DU?

[Hoyt]

5. Just go to the Gungeon -- AKA "Gun Control & RKBA" -- and read a bunch of thread names.

[Marengo]

7. Going to the mountains, getting drunk, and shooting deer? Link please.

[yallerdawg]

9. Google...

"hunting season."

All the links you need.

If they ain't drunk, who the hell is letting them have guns?

[Marengo]

10. I asked for links to posts on DU which condone this behavior which the OP suggested exist.

Maybe you can step up and provide a few?

[yallerdawg]

13. Go to "Gun Control and RKBA"!

You can find it, can't you?

[Marengo]

14. I didn't see any posts in that group advocating handling firearms while inebriated as the OP

Suggested. Did you?

[yallerdawg]

19. "Even people on DU will espouse the right to have many guns..."

The rest is in reference to a movie.

But you knew that.

[Marengo]

21. You conveniently omitted the remainder "so they can go to the mountains, get drunk, and..."

You're either throwing smoke, or your reading comprehension has failed you in this instance.

[Hoyt]

16. Decades ago I went hunting a few times, and I know hunters. I can assure you they

drink while handling guns, and some quiet heavily. Plus a bunch of gunners are on meds that alter judgement.

Generally, I'm fine with hunting, but most gun fanciers aren't hunters, of animals anyway.

[Marengo]

17. I'm aware it happens, encountered it myself. However, I've not seen it advocated on DU as the OP...

Has suggested. I asked the OP for links, and none being forthcoming, I assume it's BS.

[Hoyt]

18. Glad you admit it happens. I'm sure Gungeoneers have done it as well, despite all their sober

talk of how responsible gunners are. Heck, if I remember, the NRA used to sell some really nice Scotch/bourbon glasses with a bird dog etched in the side.

[Wounded Bear]

4. Don't forget the entertainment and gaming industries...

lots of violence there.

[Johnathan146]

6. Most hunters are not getting drunk and hunting?

And whats the problem with hunting a deer. Its a lot more humane than eating a cow who lived its entire life in a cell too small to move in.

Where I live we had a deer overpopulation problem. Out state issues more hunting permits to keep the deer in check since when it gets out of control a lot end up dying from malnutrition. Not sure if that is a better alternative.

[yagotme]

15. I used to hunt a good bit,

got drunk on rare occasion, but never at same time. And there are no mountains around here.

[MineralMan]

8. Do you eat meat?

I grew up in a family of hunters. There was no drinking while hunting. None. That's true in most cases. We ate the meat. Personally, I'm not a hunter. I also eat meat. In every case someone killed the animal that meat came from. Humans have hunted since we stood up on two legs.

Your argument is misplaced, I'm afraid. Now if you use no products that come from dead animals, I can understand you position, but I know few people who do not, have not, and will never use things that come from dead animals.

Attacking hunters isn't the way to go.

[REP]

11. You have fallen for the Fable of the Old West - not the reality

You really think it was all shoot outs all the time? Ha! It was a lot of walking, a lot of hard work, a lot of trying to scratch out a living in a hostile landscape (the land itself, that is). Very little shooting, except for hunting.

[X_Digger]

12. Irritated that your 'gun finger' thread got derided because of the isis salute?

For the inevitable jury..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028439320

Killer Is Proud American Gun Owner

Just look at the picture with his finger sticking out to resemble a gun. How American of him.

take that up with Islam. It is to symbolize the single one true God.

A shorthand for the Shahada, and specificly the first line, the Tahlil.
"There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah."

[Initech]

20. George Carlin was right - we're the only country in the world....

That has the words "rockets" and "bombs" in our national anthem.