Judge rules doctors can refuse trans patients and women who have had abortions

[Cattledog]

...a United States district judge ruled that doctors may turn away women who have had abortions and transgender patients on the basis of religious freedom.




https://mic.com/articles/164234/judge-rules-doctors-can-refuse-trans-patients-and-women-who-have-had-abortions?utm_source=NYMag&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=partner#.gFXnAZO4z

[appleannie1943]

1. That goes against the oath they take on becoming doctors.

[malaise]

2. WTF?

America is over

[HassleCat]

3. And men who are circumcised.

And men who had vasectomies. And women who had tubal ligations. Breast enhancements? Breast reductions? Anything at all to do with sex, gender, reproduction, or anything else. This is so arbitrary as to be nearly random.

[unblock]

4. So, you can't refuse to treat a murderer,

But you can refuse to treat someone who had an abortion 30 years earlier?

Do I have that right?


Also, what religion actually says not just that abortion is a sin, but that doing anything remotely civil for someone who has had an abortion is also a sin?

[uppityperson]

5. Does that mean they can refuse to treat overweight people because of the sin of gluttony? Oooo, how

about limiting divorced people, or unmarried adults because of those sins? Shut the VA down because military might have killed someone!

Woohoo!!! Pick and choose!!!

[Runningdawg]

10. They have been refusing to treat overweight people for a long time.

You just don't hear about it because those people are dead. No one stood up for them in life and no one is likely to do it after their death.

[Doreen]

6. Will this count me?

I had a topic pregnancy removed that was really damn close to bursting ( 4 months ). They were doing exploratory surgery when they found me ready to burst. Am I counted as one of those people who had an abortion?

[Ilsa]

7. Yeah, well it's your fault you didn't go ahead and die

for the fetus that wouldn't survive anyway.

Glad you are here, BTW. Sorry about the ectopic pregnancy/miscarriage.

[Doreen]

9. Dang, I stand corrected. I knew I called it the wrong thing. Yes, ectopic pregnancy.

It got me a partial hysterectomy which I had needed for years but I had to almost die in order to get it. Our medical system where I live is either Catholic or Seventh day Adventist so care for females is tough to get. Got better with Obama but that will soon change.

[Ilsa]

12. I figured it was auto-spellcheck.

Close enough.
I know about those gyne-healthcare deserts where only catholic care is available.

[Ilsa]

8. I guess women will just stop telling doctors

Their complete medical history if they are having a hard time finding a new dr.

[Runningdawg]

11. Dr's can tell with an exam

that there is scaring around the cervix. What they can't do is tell if the procedure was an abortion or the removal of a partially miscarried fetus. Of course, now both are likely to land you in jail so it won't matter.

[Ilsa]

13. Yes, and passing a baby through changes the shape.

But some women might be able to get away with it.

[Horse with no Name]

14. Not usually.

I've had a D&C and a few hysteroscopies. There isn't any scarring.
The uterus is very vascular which means it will also heal well sue to a generous blood supply.

[Initech]

15. Fuck "religious freedom". It has nothing to do with religion or freedom.

[dionysus]

16. In lrinciple, that's terrible. That said, i wouldn't want someone operating on me who hated me...

I'd be afraid they'd "slip" with the scalpel...

[Runningdawg]

17. See post #10

I am a retired RN who spent 20+ years in the OR. One of the reasons I left the medical field was because of overt discrimination. If the general public knew 1/10th of what was said about them or done to them in the OR there would be a revolt to rival the French Revolution.
I still have nightmares about a young boy with a crushed pelvis that was allowed to scream in pain while a Dr lectured him on the fact that both of his (now dead) parents were to blame and that they never loved him because they tried to kill him too (DUI car crash).