Today the Gov of NY joined the rank of "automation denier" by proposing a

[CK_John]

free tuition for state of NY university and community college based on family income.

Not sure if this is a re-election game or if he is assuming the state senate will kill his measure but....

My problem with his program is it takes no consideration of the impact of automation and total lack of need for universities.

Automation will only offer a position for the top 10% of the student population.

[HoneyBadger]

1. Total lack of need for universities?

Is this a common point of view? I am intrigued.

[CK_John]

3. A Plan in Case Robots Take the Jobs: Give Everyone a Paycheck

Read More:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/technology/plan-to-fight-robot-invasion-at-work-give-everyone-a-paycheck.html?_r=0

[Motown_Johnny]

18. Automated Doctors and Nurses are all the rage.

Automated Scientists too....

Automated musicians and authors....

Automated Lawyers, who needs a human defending your rights when a computer can do it so much better?


Why give low income kids a shot at a real education when their future jobs will be eliminated anyways?





What a crazy OP. I am ashamed of myself for just reading it.

[safeinOhio]

2. Driverless cars mean

No more truck, cab driver and dilevery jobs. I just hope AI takes away all of those over paid CEO jobs.

[CK_John]

4. Amazon just opened a grocery store without a checkout line.

SAN FRANCISCO — Amazon is testing a grocery store in downtown Seattle that lets customers walk in, grab food from the shelves and walk out again, without ever having to stand in a checkout line.

Customers tap their cellphones on a turnstile as they walk into the store, which logs them into the store's network and connects to their Amazon account through an app.

Read More:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/12/05/amazon-go-supermarket-no-checkout-no-cashiers-artificial-intelligence-sensors/94991612/

[AngryAmish]

8. AI will take at least half of the lawyer jobs.

Stockbrokers are already done. 3/4 of anesthesiologist jobs. Probably 90% of radiologists.

Bespoke pizza places will always survive. Make a great ramen, you have a job for life. Auto mechanics, plumbers.

I will repeat my advice I give to every young person:. Get A Government Job.

[Motown_Johnny]

19. So maybe eliminate truck, cab and delivery driver courses from Universities.....

Oh, Wait!!!


Never mind.......

[alfie]

5. I can't agree that every job will be taken by robots

My profession, nursing, has been streamlined by automation but not to the point of decreasing the need for well educated nurses. At this point, I can't imagine a robot replacing all the work that doctors do, either.

It will become, not an in-human, but an inhumane world if doctors, nurses, teachers, preachers and all other "caring professions" are replaced by robots.

[HoneyBadger]

6. There are doctors that work over the internet

No need to leave your house for an appt. Sadly that Theranos lady was a scam, because DIY blood tests were about to be a thing. So tell me if that worked why we could not get rid of 95% of US based doctors and nurses?

[alfie]

11. Telemedicine requires specialized equipment

Radiologists can read x-rays, CT scans, MRI's from their home computers. But doctors cannot to much to examine patients without there being special equipment at both ends. Some things, like blood pressure readings, heart rate, other simple tests can be measured and sent to the doctor via phone or internet, but those are pretty elementary. Listening to hearts, lungs, abdomen, carotid arteries, for instance would take more advanced technology (read expensive) and training of the patient. These would be costly to have in every home.

The nuances of person to person contact between patients and nurses and doctors isn't something I can explain. There is an intuitive part of the practices of medicine and nursing. Also, the healing art of touch is invaluable.

[CK_John]

7. Technology will replace 80% of what doctors do Vinod Khosla Updated: Dec 04, 2012 2:26 PM UTC

FORTUNE -- Healthcare today is often really the “practice of medicine” rather than the “science of medicine.”

Take fever as an example. For 150 years, doctors have routinely prescribed antipyretics like ibuprofen to help reduce fever. But in 2005, researchers at the University of Miami, Florida, ran a study of 82 intensive care patients. The patients were randomly assigned to receive antipyretics either if their temperature rose beyond 101.3°F (“standard treatment”) or only if their temperature reached 104°F. As the trial progressed, seven people getting the standard treatment died, while there was only one death in the group of patients allowed to have a higher fever. At this point, the trial was stopped because the team felt it would be unethical to allow any more patients to get the standard treatment.

So when something as basic as fever reduction is a hallmark of the “practice of medicine” and hasn’t been challenged for 100+ years, we have to ask: What else might be practiced due to tradition rather than science?




Read More:

http://fortune.com/2012/12/04/technology-will-replace-80-of-what-doctors-do/

[HoneyBadger]

13. Another aspect is that doctors and nurses in the US are highly compensated vs their counterparts

One could make the case that an English speaking doctor in India averaging $25k salary is as capable of providing routine care as an American counterpart at 5x the salary. Once you leverage distance medical care over the Internet, there may be many efficiencies to be found.

[TCJ70]

9. Since when does automation equal the lack of need for higher education?

If automation does remove a good number of jobs and we move to a UBI model then people are free to explore hobbies and interests which can be facilitated by higher education...I'm not sure where the logic is of automation = no more colleges...

[CK_John]

16. We will need only 10%, but it's making the false need for an education without a job.

[Adrahil]

20. Based on what?

I mean, I think automation is going to kill most unskilled and semi-skilled jobs, but not truly skilled jobs... at least not yet.

[NCTraveler]

10. January surprise. Nt

[FarCenter]

12. AI will replace professors and dramatically reduce the cost of education

[HoneyBadger]

14. Right now you can take certain 300 level Stanford computer science classes for under $300 online

You know, the same money that community college costs......

[kelly1mm]

17. Perhaps i am an educational idealist but I do not believe the primary purpose of

higher education should be/needs to be preparation for a job. Becoming a well rounded and knowledgeable individual should be a worthy goal in and of itself, IMO.