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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:05 PM Jan 2017

I'm sorry...Chuck Schumer's rant would have more impact...

...if he wasn't so obviously reading off a paper, after praising Mitch McConnel and saying what great friends they are and how much he looks forward to working with him.

When will Democrats learn to FIGHT people like Ryan & McConnell, who have no interest in working with us, and not say we love them and can't wait to work with them, only to get our legs kicked out from underneath us?

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I'm sorry...Chuck Schumer's rant would have more impact... (Original Post) Atman Jan 2017 OP
Chuck is already talking about working with Trump Blue Shoes Jan 2017 #1
We are a two party system, the elites and the non-elites bowens43 Jan 2017 #2
they are both party of the elites excpt once in a while one Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #3
get real. You read that clipped nonsense from the MSM bigtree Jan 2017 #4
Excuse me...I "read that clipped nonsense" watching it LIVE on tv. Atman Jan 2017 #6
omg, he praised McConnell bigtree Jan 2017 #7
Yeah, as if I have no reason to be cynical. Atman Jan 2017 #10
this thread needs more apathy bigtree Jan 2017 #14
We'll, you bore me. That's a start. Atman Jan 2017 #15
it's my NPR persona bigtree Jan 2017 #16
Going after Schumer is not a good move. MineralMan Jan 2017 #5
McConnel: make obama a one term president. Dems: let's all work together. ok nt msongs Jan 2017 #8
McConnell didn't succeed though, now, did he? MineralMan Jan 2017 #9
McConnell succeeded specatularly Atman Jan 2017 #12
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #11
Reading is such a drag... LanternWaste Jan 2017 #13
No, reading is not such a drag. Atman Jan 2017 #17
 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
2. We are a two party system, the elites and the non-elites
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jan 2017

R's and D's for the most part mean very little

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
4. get real. You read that clipped nonsense from the MSM
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:44 PM
Jan 2017

..Schumer has been speaking out and highly critical of many, many aspects of the Trump transition and coming presidency in terms that match his speech today.

Give the man credit for brains. He's certainly not the sop to Trump or republicans that's been presented here. You really need to read farther than the baiting reports from press (and others) who are invested in tamping down opposition, dividing our opposition, and propping up the Trump regime.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
6. Excuse me...I "read that clipped nonsense" watching it LIVE on tv.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:16 PM
Jan 2017

I haven't read anything about it, thank you very much. I watched it live, and this was my reaction. It sounded wonderful if you didn't watch him flipping through pages while reading his script, AFTER praising how wonderful Mitch McConnell is.

FUCK THAT. How many time do you have to be kicked in the balls before you start protecting your balls, and stop saying "Please sir, may I have another?"

Again, I'm not basing this on what the press says...this is entirely based upon my watching his entire bullshit speech. He'll still make a few bazillion dollars this year supporting the same old bullshit, as long as he plays lipservice to the groundlings.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
7. omg, he praised McConnell
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:33 PM
Jan 2017

...and the sun exploded.

Sen. Schumer is bring the opposition. You're bringing the cynicism.

I'm with Chuck.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
10. Yeah, as if I have no reason to be cynical.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:45 PM
Jan 2017

Playing the friend card has worked out so well for us so far.

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
5. Going after Schumer is not a good move.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:56 PM
Jan 2017

Really it's not. How about going after the Republicans instead? the Senate is a very interesting body, and operates in a way that is supposed to be collegial. A certain amount of diplomacy is always in use in the Senate.

Instead, listen to what he said about Donald Trump. If Democrats are going to block anything in the Senate, they will need the cooperation of three Republican members. Without diplomacy, that will be impossible. With diplomacy, it might be possible. The Minority Leader has a responsibility to get things done, not to please your ears, frankly.

We know who every Senator is now for the next Congress. That list is not going to change, unless someone dies or resigns. So, perhaps we should work with Schumer, whose experience makes him an asset to the Democratic Party.

Let's not begin the congressional term by trashing our own party's members, shall we?

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
9. McConnell didn't succeed though, now, did he?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:45 PM
Jan 2017

In fact, he failed miserably. Obama won, and outmaneuvered McConnell at that game. Here's the thing: We have the people we have in the Senate and House. Attacking them is not in our best interests, frankly. We're in the minority party now.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
12. McConnell succeeded specatularly
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:47 PM
Jan 2017

He stopped EVERYTHING Obama tried to do, and now look who controls both houses of Congress, and the Presidency.

Response to Atman (Original post)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Reading is such a drag...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:49 PM
Jan 2017

Reading a prepared statement is such a drag, and certainly lacks the emotional impact so many desire from protocol and policy.

Here's hoping they get a professional-quality laugh-track, James Earl Jones for voice-overs and background music composed by Hans Zimmer. Maybe a quick Wilhelm Scream for added urgency.

'cause anything else is just giving up and giving in...

Atman

(31,464 posts)
17. No, reading is not such a drag.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:02 PM
Jan 2017

It would help convince me of his convictions if the speaker actually looked at me (the camera), at least once, and told me what he really thought. Otherwise, he's just reading something some intern wrote for him at 2:00 am while Chuck was in bed. When the next big vote comes up, Chuck will vote for his wallet and will largely ignore what is needed to correct what ails the Democratic party.

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