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Live Webcast Link: JANUARY 3, 2017 At 10:30 AM
http://www.governor.ny.gov/
https://www.facebook.com/pix11news/videos/vb.76073377041/10154978357707042/?type=2&theater
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NEW YORK Gov. Andrew Cuomo is expected to announce Tuesday a plan that will offer free tuition at New York state colleges for middle- and low-income New Yorkers, according to a New York Times report.
Any college student from a family that makes less than $125,000 annually will be eligible for free tuition through the new Excelsior Scholarship at any New York state or city university starting this fall. Funds given to students will be used to complete tuition payments by supplementing existing state and federal loan and grant programs, according to anonymous sources from the governors office who spoke with the Times.
Cuomo is expected to announce the plan alongside Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), a vocal champion of free college tuition and critic of student debt.
PIX11s Facebook page will air a press conference with the governor at LaGuardia Community College scheduled for 10:30 a.m.
The plan is expected to begin a three-year rollout in the fall, but will require legislative approval. If its approved, the Cuomo administration expects that nearly one million New York families will qualify for the plan, according to the Times.
The total cost of the Excelsior Scholarship could potentially be $163 million, but the Cuomo administration said that estimate could be too low or too high. Total cost will depend on how many families participate.
The plan, if approved, will also reportedly be paid for by nearly $1 billion provided by the state through its tuition assistance program, according to the Times. Those awards are capped at $5,165 and many of the awards are smaller.
Current tuition costs at four-year State University schools for state residents is $6,470. Two-year community college programs cost $4,350. City University schools cost roughly the same.
http://pix11.com/2017/01/03/cuomo-sanders-to-propose-free-tuition-at-new-york-state-colleges-report/
Girard442
(6,075 posts)I think actual secession is such a can of worms that it could never take place without armed hostilities (been there, done that), but states like NY and CA can resolve to make moves like this to prove to the Red States that liberal/progressive government policies aren't just warm fuzzy feelgood things, but actually work better on the ground than the hardass austerity/puritanical policies that are the rage these days.
Actually, it's already been pretty well proven. So let's prove it more.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)portlander23
(2,078 posts)Donkees
(31,409 posts)portlander23
(2,078 posts)I guess we're all Berniecrats now.
George II
(67,782 posts)Donkees
(31,409 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Response to NWCorona (Reply #11)
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flamingdem
(39,313 posts)We (I am an ex NYer) always knew he was scum.
Decades ago.
Aye. we know this idiot and his shenanigans quite well. Thusly he was absolutely drubbed here. Too bad so many "nice" voters choose not to listen to his words or anything New Yorkers told 'em about this fool.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Now we gotta use our NY back on him - or rather his Queens lol.
TonyPDX
(962 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)So TonyPDX, does the "PDX" signify that you're a Portlander?
karynnj
(59,503 posts)He obviously was invited by Governor Cuomo and he does have legislation that he will likely reintroduce in the new Congress. There have been times where Senators (or Congressmen) have written legislation that has no chance to be enacted in hopes that they will be picked up by the states.
This idea is not as radical as it sounds. First off, both HRC and Bernie supported the concept. Second, that was the way it historically was in many states. Many New Yorkers, including many Brooklyn Jews - Bernie's contemporaries paid little or nothing at excellent city colleges - such as City College, Brooklyn College and others. Many others had an affordable college at the various SUNY colleges.
NY was not the only state - California's public colleges were their crown jewel - and likely one of the reasons that California thrived. Even Indiana had a "Hoosier Scholarship" that at least in the 1960s and 1970s paid the full tuition at an Indiana public college.
George II
(67,782 posts)...Sanders grew up, and am only about 5 years younger than him. I know about those schools.
I was accepted to Stuyvesant High School and when it came time to apply to colleges, I applied to Cooper Union, City College, and Pratt Institute. I was first accepted by Pratt with a $1200 scholarship (about 50% of the tuition), then City College (free after nominal registration and other fees), and finally Cooper Union - $100 a year for registration, zero tuition (called "full scholarship" by the school back then)
I know that CUNY (City College et., al) started charging tuition at least 20 years ago, maybe more. Two or three years ago Cooper Union, which had been "full scholarship" for more than 150 years ago instituted about a $20,000 a year tuition.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)Not to mention, at least from people I know, that opportunity fit their hopes and dreams of their futures.
My daughter, while doing a CUNY MA in women's studies used a journal her grandmother (my husband's mother) wrote in 1936 a few years after she graduated from Pratt. One thing my daughter did was to visit Pratt to get more back more background. One thing that shocked her was that the average one month salary that a graduate earned was close to the cost of a year's tuition. My husband, who went to a SUNY college did a quick calculation and found that was not far from the case for him. A year as an instate student at IU (which I did not pay because I had a scholarship) was actually much less than a month of my salary after I graduated. (My husband and I graduated in the 1970s)
My daughter's generation raced a VERY different situation and for those whose parents could not pay for college, graduated with unbelievable debt - in many cases even if they chose the public college.
aikoaiko
(34,170 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)think
(11,641 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)And the Senate is in session (albeit pro forma) today.
surrealAmerican
(11,361 posts)Where are New York's Senators? Are they not on board with this plan? Their absence is making them look bad.
George II
(67,782 posts)portlander23
(2,078 posts)I've not been a huge Cuomo fan, but he's knocking this out of the park. "We have to have college for every child, man, woman who wants to attend."
Old Vet
(2,001 posts)Go to college free, Even though Iam over 60 I thrive on learning.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)There is a reason the "right" doesnt like education.
portlander23
(2,078 posts)But I'll take it.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)Keep pushing the issues!
portlander23
(2,078 posts)Let's all get on this train.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)It would be more practical to teach people to weld and put money into hobby studios and tool equipment.
People have to learn to live without a paid job, and killing each other.