So I'm in line at the grocery store, and the lady in front of me used Food stamps and the guy in

[LaydeeBug]

back of me started hemming and hawing. He said, "My god, do you believe this?" like trying to get me and the others in line to participate in his disgust. As loudly, and roundly as I could, and my theatre background lets me PROJECT people:

"FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE"

He was shocked. I mean shocked. "I'D RATHER SEE MY HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS GO TO FEED HER OR ANY OTHER FAMILY INSTEAD OF LAUNCHING A 20 MILLION DOLLAR MISSILE AT A CAMEL'S ASS. SHE'S IN A VETERAN'S FAMILY, DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT? YOU HAVE THE FUCKING NERVE TO SPIT ON OUR TROOPS BY AIRING YOUR SHIT NOW?"

"You think it's me and *MY* mouth?" he said,

'TRUST ME. EVERYONE HERE IS MORE OFFENDED WITH YOUR LITTLE DISPLAY THAN MY BIG ONE. YOU ARE A FUCKING TRAITOR AND ASSHOLE AND YOUR ACTIONS TOWARD THIS WOMAN IS WAY WORSE THAN MY PROFANITY ANYDAY"

The cashier laughed. I got three thumbs up and a high five.

Really.

Today.

About an hour ago.

After I cashed out, the hoopla went down, the lady approached me in the parking lot and told me thank you. Then, with pride, her eyes glistened, she said, "My father served in the Navy and my husband was a Marine before he died. How did you know?"

"I am the daughter of a Veteran too, we just have to stick together now. My Daddy didn't fight on foreign soil to see ours starve here. That man is the worst type of man"

Then she hugged me.

And I cried.

[ismnotwasm]

1. I. Love.You.

That's simply spectacular

[LaydeeBug]

151. I love you too

[Different Drummer]

2. Good for you! K&R. n/t

[blue cat]

3. Way to go!!!

[madokie]

4. And I cried

[LaydeeBug]

153. I tried not to cry in front of her...but she knew I was

and it was ok.

[bowens43]

5. two thumbs up !!

[LaydeeBug]

6. I also said, "You don't think it's you...you don't think you're the problem. It's you! It's you!"

And the people all around me were agreeing.

That's the second time in like two or three w2eeks that I have been ready to THROW DOWN and got sheers for being a mouthy smartass.

[GeoWilliam750]

137. Slight correction

".....I have been ready to THROW DOWN and got cheers for being a decent and upstanding human being"

Also, good on you.

[LaydeeBug]

148. touche. nt

[oldtime dfl_er]

7. I laughed

and then I cried a little.

Very nice!

[bench scientist]

8. You a badass!

We. Need more like you!

[Phoenix61]

9. So proud for you

You go!

[MFM008]

10. not taking it anymore!

These twits and their mean, narrow, maggoty view of the world!
You go!

[Maru Kitteh]

72. YES! "These twits and their mean, narrow, maggoty view of the world!"

My inner third-grader just yelled "UP THEIR NOSE WITH A RUBBER HOSE!" and jumped in the air.

I'm so sick of being quiet. I NEVER make New Years Resolutions, but this year, I will.

I resolve to open my big mouth and meet bigotry and bullying with the vociferous opposition and shaming that it deserves, whenever and however I am able. Every single time.

[babylonsister]

211. Maybe if I see it, I'll say it, too. We all should, but

I love your resolution!

[bdamomma]

11. ha!!!!

you showed him, you know they like to dish it out, but they can't take it.

[LaydeeBug]

145. 9 times out of 10. spot on

[Eliot Rosewater]

12. You are my hero today.

Sadly if you were a man it is probable you would have been punched or threatened.

As it is the day will come when your being a woman will not matter to these types, anyway.

[LaydeeBug]

147. My Daddy didn't raise no punk...

Let 'em swing. I am very serious when I tell you I would sooner die on my feet than live on my knees.

[Raster]

13. and i cried...

...you fucking GO, LaydeeBug!!!

[nini]

14. As someone who was ridiculed using food stamps once - I know what the ridicule is like.

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I was in a wreck in 1985 that left me in a wheelchair for 10 months. I couldn't work obviously and had to get some help since I had an 8 year old son and was a single mom. The cashier who knew me forever since I shopped in that store all the time says 'I can't believe you're using these?'

Really? You can't believe someone who is confined to a wheelchair with 2 broken legs needs some assistance? I wanted to slap the hell out of her.

Since then I went back to college, got a BS in Computer Science and more than paid back in taxes what I used at the time. And even if I didn't it shouldn't matter - I needed help just like all others do that use them.

I think it's amazing that people like that man think those are easy to get in the first place - they're not. You have to be very needy to even qualify.

[LaydeeBug]

144. I am so sorry for your experience. Together, we can make this better.

And I have to be honest...I am little disappointed that you felt you needed to say you paid more back in taxes than you took in food stamps anyway. Don't get me wrong, I sincerely applaud your upward mobility, but your worth as a person doesn't rely on it. Not that I was saying that it was...you know what I mean

[nini]

196. I know what you mean..

It doesn't matter - but I like to remind those who think everyone is on those things forever etc.. Obviously people here aren't the problem.

[jalan48]

15. Way to go. Don't let these cretins shame good people.

[Yavin4]

16. Be careful getting into verbal confrontations with people

People are very unstable and are armed to the teeth.

[redstatebluegirl]

21. They are counting on us to be afraid of them.

Most of the ones who scream they are armed don't have the guts to use them. Is there danger, yes, but in truth we have to call them out, every single time! Good for her to have the guts to say ENOUGH!

[llmart]

123. Enough of the fear mongering, please.....

Bullies LOVE to see you showing fear or that you're afraid of them.

This woman is my heroine right now. Too many of us remain silent because we were taught to "be nice". Fuck that shit. I'm almost 70 years old and I don't give two shits if people think me speaking out isn't "nice". My son and I agreed at Christmas that we're calling these bullies out every single time we witness this crap, and that any Trump voter who is emboldened by that orange piece of shit just because he's been ensconced in our White House will know how we feel about him and his stolen election.

Remember - bullies are usually cowards. They expect you to be intimidated by them. Even in my younger days I was rarely intimidated by anyone, so now that I'm older I could care less.

[azureblue]

124. wrong attitude

we make them afraid that we, too, may be armed to the teeth and ready to take immediate action if they try their crap. Make them think that You are unstable, and crazier than they are.

That's the flip side of being reasonable and logical- Repubs think that is a weakness, so they can get away with intimidating people. Nope. Those days are over. They try their crap, get on their cases loudly, and make them fear you.

[niyad]

150. I AM armed-- I carry a purse that many have suggested be registered as a lethal weapon, and

I am not afraid to use it!! of course, there are some who have suggested that my TONGUE is a lethal weapon as well.

I can be reasonable and logical, and I can be one flaming, angry BITCH.

[LittleGirl]

230. I would love to meet you

you make me smile.

[niyad]

247. it would be lovely if we could. I am glad when I can make people smile.

[LittleGirl]

258. Same here

it makes my day! I'll be living back in AZ in March if you're ever in the neighborhood

[stonecutter357]

158. fuck um so am I..

[KT2000]

17. Good going!

I hope to have the guts to do the same when the situation arises.
I like your posts too - righteous anger - and that is what is called for.

[redstatebluegirl]

18. I LOVE YOU!

[iluvtennis]

71. +10000! Can't wait until the situations presents itself to me as I will not hold my tongue nt

[LaydeeBug]

156. I LOVE YOU TOO!

[lunatica]

19. You made me cry too!

Thank you! Just the fact that someone would pick on an older person chaps my ass to no end. You made a lot of people feel good today, and not only in the store!

[guillaumeb]

20. I recommend you for your actions.

This type of nastiness must be confronted. If he wants to think nasty thoughts he should keep them to himself rather than being emboldened to verbalize them.

Recommended.

[superpatriotman]

22. What state still uses 'stamps'?

I thought it was all done on debit cards now

[LaydeeBug]

38. It was a card.

[MissB]

52. Folks still call them stamps.

Even though it's a debit card. In some states, it's much more obvious what card they are using.

[haele]

77. I still see people with WIC vouchers at stores sometimes.

SNAP is on a card, but WIC (Women, Infant, Children) is still the coupons in some places. Two different programs Most people mistake WIC for food stamps.

Haele

[Lord_at_War]

121. Thanks for the explanation!

I was another who thought it had all been switched over to EBT cards...

[brucefan]

23. This made my day!

[byronius]

24. Loud and proud. Well done.

[Worried senior]

25. Thank you

You did a great job and I hope he took some to heart.

[liberalmuse]

26. My hero!

Thank you for all of those of us who are sick of these kind of displays.

[List left]

27. Everyone - Yes You too - need to stand up for what is right and not let people get away

with thinking it is ok to act this way. We need to act every time these actions and ideas are encountered and not them to be become normalized. We can't afford to wait and see.

[smirkymonkey]

28. Thank you for your kindness.

[demmiblue]

29. How does anyone these days know who is using SNAP?

Dude must have been itching and waiting and spying on all cashier/shopper interactions to catch one in the wild. Big game hunter hunting humans to humiliate. Arsehole.

Good on you!

[tapermaker]

45. I agree

no state uses foodstamps anymore . I think it might be made up to make someone feel good about themselves

[demmiblue]

46. Of course you think that, dearie. n/t

[snpsmom]

49. the cards are (purposely) easy to identify n/t

[Kaleva]

226. I have one and it's not easy to identify. It looks and works like a debit card.

[Lisa0825]

234. The cards in Texas are easy to identify. They vary from state to state.

Some may be easier than others.

[dsc]

239. NC and Ohio's cards are both obvious

if you have seen them before.

[DLevine]

58. A lot of people still call them food stamps, even though it's a card.

And fyi, this shit happens all the time.

[LaydeeBug]

91. I still call them food stamps...what are they called?

PS. I don't give a shit if someone doesn't believe me. That can't undo the fact that it happened.

[DLevine]

96. Here in PA they're called snap benefits.

We were given what were called Access cards. Still, I usually call them food stamps.

[awoke_in_2003]

187. I still call them food stamps at times

but in Texas it is called EBT (electronic benefits transfer). The cards are quite identifiable. If people don't want to believe you, that is on them, not you. Thanks for saying something. Growing up, my family had to resort to food stamps (when they were stamps). It was hard enough knowing you had to use them without some asshole trying to humiliate you when you did. We were eligible for school lunches, too. I skipped most lunches during that time.

[jberryhill]

191. But many states also use them for the child support program

People using those cards may simply be divorced.

[Maru Kitteh]

80. Do you usually drop by DU for the express purpose of accusing DU'ers of lying?

[ailsagirl]

210. Apparently so.

weird

[gollygee]

86. People still call them food stamps

And in Michigan the Bridge Card has a very easily identifiable look. It might be the same in other states.

[erpowers]

125. A Card, But You Can Tell

You really do not have to be paying much attention to know who is using SNAP benefits. It is a card, but anyone can tell that it is a SNAP benefits card. It looks totally different from any other debit card. In my area they also have the name of the card written on the card. The name is not like most debit cards I have seen. The name is in big letters in the middle of a plain looking card. Most people should know what the card looks like because most stores that accept the card have signs saying they accept the card. In addition, there are occasionally news stories about people misusing the money from their cards. During these news segments, a picture of the card may be shown.

I have seen multiple people using SNAP benefits cards. I have not seen anyone complain about people using those cards, but I live in a liberal area. There is a conservative area near where I live and I once saw a guy, in that area, with a shirt that said, "Silly liberals checks are for workers". Maybe someone in that area would say something like what was said in the OP.

I think most people born in certain years still say food stamps. I grew up in a time when it was called food stamps and I still say food stamps even though I know it is now a card called SNAP benefits. Many people I know who grew up before it was changed still call it food stamps.

[niyad]

154. calling out another du'er is actually frowned upon here.

[Raine]

168. IF the poster made it up that definitely wouldn't be the way to "make someone feel good about

themselves", duh! Don't project that kind of scurrilous action on to others who would never think to do such a deceitful thing!

[RedWedge]

109. There are a couple of giveaways.

The cashier has to ring things up separately, or when the customer swipes the card, there's a notification on the readout that's visible.

[Orrex]

113. In Pennsylvania, there is no way to mistake the Access card for a credit/debit card

It's ugly green with ugly yellow lettering, and unless you cover it conspicuously with your hand while swiping it, it'll be visible even to casual, accidental observation. Certainly it doesn't require someone to be "spying" on "interactions to catch one in the wild." More like: eyes at least half-open and facing in the general direction of the register.

And if you do cover it with your hand while swiping, you make yourself pointedly conspicuous and will draw attention. Further, if the cashier doesn't realize what you're doing, they won't hit the "EBT" key on their screen, and you'll have to swipe it again.


In short, the card is seemingly deliberately made to be obvious and, by extension, embarrassing, much like the can't-possibly-miss-them discounted lunch cards I had to use in junior high.

[demmiblue]

132. I guess I am naive.

I didn't think that people really paid any attention to what method of payment another shopper is using. I know I don't (beyond cash vs. card payments). Perhaps our lanes/swipe pads are set up differently... I would never be close enough to see the type of card one is using without consciously looking (swipes are horizontal and not vertical). Also, there is an EBT option on the swipe pad.

You do make a great case, though. EBT cards should be inconspicuous.

[politicat]

272. Personal bubbles vary a lot from area to area.

I live in a place with enormous personal bubbles, despite being a densely populated city. In the grocery line, a cart's length is starting to intrude on personal space. So it's easier for the ugly cards to go unnoticed. (WIC still comes in for a lot of cruelty, though.)

But other places I've visited, people get much closer. I do not like this. OTOH... if you're standing close enough to my back that I can tell what you had for lunch, and you get my heel on your toe or my elbow in your ribs... oops. Sorry.

[LaydeeBug]

184. this. nt

[erpowers]

129. Easy to Tell

In my area it is very easy to tell who is using SNAP benefits cards. They look totally different from regular debit cards. I think the federal government needs to make states change the way the card looks or force states to just put the money in a bank account. That way people will get a regular debit card. The federal and stage governments could then decide to either allow people to use the money for anything the choose, or try to work out a way that the bank would know what things a person is not allowed to buy.

I assume the cards look the way they do in the hopes that people will be embarrassed enough to not stay on SNAP benefits too long. There may be a feeling that people fearing the condemnation of their peers may cause them to get off benefits sooner than if their was no chance of their peers criticizing them. It is very possible that a number of the people qualify for SNAP benefits do not apply for them due to shame and fear of their peers. Government officials my fear that if there were no longer shame associated with SNAP benefits more people would try to apply for them.

[demmiblue]

140. I know they look different, this is my state's card (called a Bridge card):

My comment was in regards to others noticing what card another person uses (especially when they are third in line).

As I responded to Orrex, I think it may be how our lanes/swipe pads are set up.

I agree with you about everything else. All people should be afforded the basic necessities of life in a way that does not diminish their dignity.

[erpowers]

197. Probably the Swipe Pads

I read your response to Orrex and I think it is the swipe pads. The swipe pads in my area are vertical.

[DawgHouse]

30. Good for you, standing up against a bully like that.

Where do you live that they still use food stamps?

[LaydeeBug]

40. It's a card, but in MD, it's a bright Orange card.

That guy's an asshole

[DawgHouse]

263. Wow that's ridiculous that the card is so identifiable.

[LaydeeBug]

264. I am pretty sure that most of them are...

but it's really not the point. We should never shame the hungry. I've never been on food stamps and Thank God that's never happened to me...THAT is a Blessing. You don't lambast the needy, or decide FOR them that they're lazy, unemployed, whatever. You haven't walked a mile in their shoes. You don't know...

(proverbial, plural "you" there...not YOU specifically)

[LAS14]

30. K & R and wondering...

... Are you in a red or blue or mixed area?

[LaydeeBug]

95. I live ina a red area of a blue state. I wasn't in my neighborhood though

I went to the Amish Market in Cockeysville, and stopped at the Giant just down the street from it.

[CentralMass]

32. Thank you. That was beautiful.

[spanone]

33. K&R...THANK YOU!

[Gymbo]

34. Thank You

That absolutely made my day.

[hamsterjill]

35. Proud to have you and your bravery as a fellow DU'er!

Kickin' ass when ass needs kickin'!

Thank you for standing up to a bully and an asshole.

[ThingsGottaChange]

36. I LOVE YOU! nt

[Texin]

37. Good For You!

Men like this guy are bullies, but for the most part, if challenged they'll tuck their tail between their legs and accuse their challenger of behaving rudely and speaking "offensively" for calling them on their bullshit. The response is like the old SNL Church Lady. They live in their Fox Fantasy World in which everybody in America support this crap and the orange cretin won the selection in a landslide vote, so hearing from someone like you step of up defend his victim while putting him plainly on his ass made him see that his world view is not shared by everyone else. I'm sure he expected everybody surrounding him to coalesce to jeer at you and his victim both and when that didn't happen, I expect it pulled him up by the short and curlies. People like this guy and that young nutter woman in Chicago a couple of weeks ago depend on "polite" enablers. When they're not surrounded by them as they expect, they get just a sample of the loathing and contempt a great, great many feel about them and their disgusting so-called *opinions*. Asshats all.

[LaydeeBug]

41. Remind them that Fox News is owned by a Foreigner and a Muslim. FACT. nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

39. Good on you Laydee. We appear to be entering another Reagan age. Me! Me! Me!

That makes me sad.

[LaydeeBug]

44. Bullshit. Reagan didn't get Gorbachev to interfere in or election.

[onetexan]

42. THANK YOU

from the bottom of our hearts for standing up to this thug and not letting him put down the family of veterans. My husband is ex-Navy, our son a proud Marine, his grandfather a physician at Walter Reed, and his great grandfather and 4 great uncles all combat surgeons. From a family of vets we thank you!!

[Uggwearingdad]

43. How would he have known?

Serious question.
He's behind you..you are behind the shopper...did the cashier announce it? Did the shopper?
How could the guy see what kind of card was swiped?

It's not the "coupon books" anymore...it's a swipe card the size of a credit/debit card....how would he have known.....somebody must have said something OR.....just asking.

[LaydeeBug]

47. Yep. He eagle eye spotted her card because I was reaching into my cart and putting my things on the

conveyor belt. He practically had to interrupt me to for the little hemming mess.

He was looking for it

[Lochloosa]

54. Most are pretty distinctive looking. They are made to be that way.

[Uggwearingdad]

207. Shall we do state EBT/SNAP card pics....?

2 carts behind the holder..... and the readers are designed to give privacy...you have to punch in PINS....

As I point out below...in N.Y...my Drivers License is a very similar color to the EBT/Benefit ID cards..2 shopping carts away.....no.

?itok=UlPSf1et

[LaydeeBug]

246. Nah...see post #113

along with several others on this very thread...all were written prior to your posts.

Contrary to your display, I don't need to SUBMIT anything to you.

Oh, and ps...MORE THAN ONCE, I say where I was, and there is *EVEN* a post where I name the state and neighborhood. Had you bothered to read you would have seen it.

Thanks.

[DLevine]

63. When I was on snap, I had to tell the cashier before I could swipe the card.

Also, the cards in my state were easy to spot as snap.

[Uggwearingdad]

141. Not buying it.....sorry.

What state do you live in Laydee?
I'll show you the card pictures and remind you the swipe terminals are meant for privacy...like in my state, N.Y, and I live in the sticks...Adirondack foothills...the mag strip is all that is visible in a check out line unless someone exposes it.

[DLevine]

160. You are replying to your own post.

Why are you calling her a liar when many of us in this thread have experienced the same thing? It happens all the time.

[Uggwearingdad]

176. I did no such thing.."..calling her a liar.."...I said I'm not buying it.

I don't.....not unless the card was seen by the guy 2 shoppers behind the cardholder or someone disclosed the cards status....
I replied to all the replies in my post...by replying to my op...they could all see it.

I shop in upstate N.Y. all the time(large use of SNAP)...2 carts back I can't say if a shopper is using a Credit Card, a Debit card, a SNAP card, a friggin' library card....sorry it's just the way it is.

[DLevine]

180. Obviously many of us have had a much different experience than you. nt

[LaydeeBug]

248. which is the same as saying I am lying.

[Uggwearingdad]

268. If I said you were lying I would say you are lying...exactly like that...no grey, I'd say it.

I'm saying I don't buy it....still don't....but you are entitled to post as you do....as should I be able to...If I wanted to call you a liar.....I'd do just that.

I.Don't.Buy.Your.Shtick.For.1.Second. ....and I know the Constitutional definition of Treason

[LaydeeBug]

271. Sorry. You don't get to have it both ways. Saying you don't buy it is the same

thing as saying I am lying. You don't get to split hairs.

This is kinda like Trump voters who try to say they're not racist.

(Yes, they are)

[Uggwearingdad]

276. You don't make the rules though do you?

I have 2 AA coworkers that voted for muskrat head....are they racist per your broad brushing?

[LaydeeBug]

277. Conflate much?

You don't get to say, "I don't buy your schtick but you don't get to say I am calling you a liar". That you have repeatedly done shows that you doing EXACTLY that.

It is pretty much that simple.

[Uggwearingdad]

278. I NEVER said what you've put in quotation marks, and you can't show I have...

LaydeeBug
277. Conflate much?
........ "I don't buy your schtick but you don't get to say I am calling you a liar".
".."'s have a very specific use...like a DIRECT.WORD.FOR.WORD.QUOTE.OF.A.STATEMENT.

Serious question though....have you looked up the legal CONSTITUTIONAL definition of Treason yet... or do you continue to misuse the word... One.Punctuation.Mark.At.A.Time?

If I ever call you a liar.. I will say, without hesitation.. in a post...Laydeebug you are a liar....I've never said that though, and won't/can't until I can prove it...just that I(ME) don't buy it.

[LaydeeBug]

279. Yes. You did.

Also, just because YOU can't see YOUR state's food stamp card doesn't mean this guy didn't. It is incredulous that you think you can assign/project that onto my experience.

[Uggwearingdad]

281. Link it....it's JUST.THAT.SIMPLE.

I stand by my Actual previous comment...."I don't buy it." See, I put that in "..."'s because I REALLY said it....not what you put in "..."'s...that I NEVER said.

You say...."...just because YOU can't see YOUR state's food stamp card..."....I can see them..I help people apply for. and get EBT cards...It's what I get paid to do....and we do not call them "food stamp card"s....we just don't...

[LaydeeBug]

282. Read your posts.

[Uggwearingdad]

283. Or..you provide a link to your claim...I typed my posts....I know what they say.

You know what's telling...partially why I'm not buying your story....phones.
I can turn the video on my phone on in about a second...3 tops.

If something as epic as you claim happened...it would be recorded for the masses , at least a good portion of it, the hi5 maybe...2 swipes and I'm in record mode....yet your big thing seems to be misquoting me.....as I said, and I'm not hiding from it....I'm not buying it.

I don't know how long you are going to beat this horse but.....I stand pat. I won't be bullied or back down...

I have to ask again...have you looked up the Constitutional definition of Treason? If you use the word it's imperative you know the legal meaning....honest to god question

[LaydeeBug]

285. Nope. Just read for context.

[LaydeeBug]

287. Just read it. It's that simple.

Oh, and aiding and abetting the enemy might want to be the part of treason you should read.

Bestie's a state's attorney. Have a nice day

[Uggwearingdad]

290. Need a declared enemy.....

Has President Obama declared The Russian/Putin freaks an enemy we are at war with.....that's a standard for Treason....and what does this "Bestie's a state's attorney." mean? And relevance?

[LaydeeBug]

291. Nope.

[Uggwearingdad]

292. Really?? Let's see how that works in any Court...

Federal Circ, Appellate, SCOTUS, hell a Justice of the Peace...
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason....not hard reading....
Further reading.....
"Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given.

The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution."

You should note..."enemies" and "war" are the bullet points and I don't remember POTUS having asked Congress to declare war or referred to Russia as an enemy....certainly Putin is a reprehensible shit wagon.... but I have enough faith in our current POTUS to know the meaning of Treason well enough to debunk your false declarations.....

The Rosenbergs weren't tried or convicted of treason...for spying for the U.S.S.R.

If you want to show me wrong you'll have to show President Obama wrong.
Can you do that?

[LaydeeBug]

293. Yup. REALLY.

Nowhere in there does it say 'declared enemy'. We are indeed at war, and have been for 15 years.

You're welcome.

[Uggwearingdad]

294. Who decided we are at war with Russia or called them enemies? Besides Romeny in '12?

You are correct..."declared" was a wrong word to use....I should have said a defined enemy....has POTUS Obama defined Russia or the Putinista puke pile as an enemy of the U.S.? Did I miss that?
Has there been a war defined by POTUS against either entity?

No legitimate Court on the Planet....not even The World Court would side with you over Pres. Obama......no matter how much you BOLD.TYPE.STUFF. He has way more insight and legal input than you EVER.WILL. That's a fact.

[LaydeeBug]

301. They decided we are at war with them when THEY committed an act of war against the USA

You're welcome.

[Sanity Claws]

185. That is not true.

I don't look but I can see a customer's card when she takes it out of her purse and holds it while waiting for the cashier to tell her when she can swipe.
You are completely wrong.

[Uggwearingdad]

205. 2 shopping carts back....really?

I'm 55yrs old....I watched people get humiliated for the old "food stamp" coupon books and I hit a sonofabitch for teasing a class mate in a check out line in the '70s....at 17...

I'm not wrong....full disclosure....I work in a N.Y.S. County Social Services Dept.....I know these cards....and not just in N.Y....

EBT, SNAP....you want to fall for this...that's on you..
My N.Y.S Drivers License is the approximate color of the N.Y.S. Benefit ID cards here....2 shopping carts back....please.

[Sanity Claws]

206. Who says there were carts?

Often people online have just a basket or a few items in their hands.
I live in New York and the NY Benefit card looks quite different from a drivers license. Also people don't take out their drivers license to pay for groceries.

[Uggwearingdad]

209. If this gets you through....she didn't say there weren't carts.

I asked Laydee where she lived...just a state...not even a zip code so I could show similarities between "cards"....not a peep.

I can show my Bass Pro Shop credit card(I fish and hunt a LOT) that looks very similar to a California Advantage(benefits) card...you can't tell that 2 shoppers away, cart or basket....you just can't

[LaydeeBug]

245. See post # 38 and post #40

You clearly expect me to SUBMIT something to you, when the answers to your questions were ALREADY in this thread.

I can use my Home Depot credit card, and it resembles the bright orange MD food stamp card, and TRUST me, you can see it.

But pretend you can't.

[Uggwearingdad]

270. Laydee said ....That's at least ONE cart

Star Member LaydeeBug (8,110 posts)
47. Yep. He eagle eye spotted her card because I was reaching into my cart and putting my things on the conveyor belt. He practically had to interrupt me to for the little hemming mess. "

[LaydeeBug]

273. Awwww, and yet, it *still* happened, and by now, I think that makes you upset

or angry.

Yep. ONE WHOLE CART Back (mine). Her cart was already in front of the cash register, as grocery stores are wont to go.

Too bad for you.

[SticksnStones]

241. Not buying it...if you worked for social services you'd know they changed the design

Of the card back in August

http://www.nyfarmersmarket.com/new-ebt-cards-rolling-out-starting-81/




(See how easy that is to discredit someone? Never know who's who on the interwebs, eh?)

[LaydeeBug]

259. ...but...but...they said, "Shall we compare cards?" Royal *we* and everything.

so...there's that.

[SticksnStones]

260. Some of the conversations here at DU seem to be unnecessarily hostile of late.

Tense times I guess.

(FWIW it never occurred to me to doubt your story. It only occurred to me to applaude it).

[LaydeeBug]

261. Thank you for that. I don't know how to make them feel better

because obviously, it's some sort of *something*

I told my bestie over dinner tonight what happened, and I started crying again, lol

I am a sap.

[SticksnStones]

262. I think many of us are feeling all kind of raw nerves, right on the edge...

Gonna be some long days and nights until Trump's out of our daily vocabulary ~


Peace

[Uggwearingdad]

269. That's the new card.....new applicants started getting these in the 4th qrtr..

The vast majority of CURRENT card holders have the card I posted.
But you know that...the link you provide says it...."As New York State will not be issuing mass card replacements, merchants should expect to see SNAP and cash benefits transacted using both the current card design and the new card design for the foreseeable future"

[LaydeeBug]

274. And yet, STILL, you are *WRONG*

I honestly feel a little bit flattered that you would go to such depth to try and disprove my experience.

Welcome to DU

[Uggwearingdad]

284. Not wrong....I quoted the linked material...which is included in our work literature.

Can you show me incorrect....this should be interesting.
Have at it....I await the correction.

[LaydeeBug]

286. Absolutely wrong, since you are trying to tell me what happened didn't happen

[Uggwearingdad]

288. I never ONCE said it didn't happen and you can't show I did....try.

I said.... I'm not buying it..... and I fully stand by my belief.
Key there Laydee....it's my belief....also my right to hold that opinion with nothing more than your declaration......hell you can't quote me correctly...you make up stuff I never said and put it in "...."s

[LaydeeBug]

289. What aren't you buying then?

If you are saying you don't believe it, you are saying that you think I am making it up. It is crazy that you think you can say that "you're not buying it" and that does NOT mean "you think I'm making it up"

The hair splitting is crazy. Here: SUCCINCTLY for you...

What aren't you buying? And if you're not buying it, how are you NOT saying I'm lying?

You *are*...you just don't want to be called on it.

Good luck.

[stopbush]

48. Good for you. Maybe that asshole will think twice before openly offering his

bigotry in public.

These bigots feel emboldened by the Racist Elect. They're now free to spew their hatred, safe in the knowledge that half the people surrounding them are themselves bigots who agree with them, and that the other half are too polite by half and won't confront them.

Confront them we must.

[Eric J in MN]

50. How did you know she was in a veteran's family? NT

NT

[cwydro]

69. ESP?

[LaydeeBug]

106. Wild guess...but these parts it's a pretty safe bet. Truth is, I didn't know

But he fucking didn't know either.

[Pathwalker]

174. Do you have any idea how many veteran's families are on assistance?

The answer is: the majority, because so many vets are unemployed. Pluse, she may live in an are where there are many military families, veteran families. There are towns like this all over this country.

[DLevine]

51. Thank you for standing up for her.

That happened to me when I was on snap, except it was a woman trying to shame me. I told her off, but it really sucks to have to deal with that crap. Good for you!

[deancr]

53. Thank You!

Stay strong and brave. You are the stuff!

[indigoth]

55. We, as a society

We must ... MUST ... do this every chance we get

No more nice quiet liberal

[lpbk2713]

56. Excellent. Well done.

But may I offer a suggestion for the next time?

Twenty Million bucks is chump change compared to the F-35 Boondoggle Program. Check
this out so you can be ready for the next one. And there surely will be another asshole.

Link: https://www.google.com/search?num=30&site=&source=hp&q=f-35+boondoggle&oq=F-35+Boondoggle&gs_l=hp.1.0.0j0i22i30k1.1994.10623.0.14053.15.15.0.0.0.0.215.1376.12j2j1.15.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..0.15.1369...0i131k1j0i10k1.L6fYD7AUviM

You did good.

[LaydeeBug]

142. Oh this is *awesome*. Thank you for it.

[Useless in FL]

57. Oh dear, I think I have something in my eye....

I wish I could have been there to see you in action!

[C Moon]

59. Damn! We need more of you!

[Binkie The Clown]

60. Those assholes THINK they are in the majority. They have to be shown they are not. n/t

[Raster]

103. Exactly!

[ck4829]

61. Beautiful. K&R.

[fescuerescue]

62. That's awesome

Usually grocery stores get concerned with someone start yelling lots of profanities.

It's good to hear that this one realized that you only had a heart of gold while yelling at another customer.

Glad t hear that you got so many thumbs up and a high five too!

Great story. Thanks for posting it.

[DLevine]

67. Bless your heart. Enjoy your stay! nt

[fescuerescue]

78. Thanks!

[LaydeeBug]

107. It *IS* awesome..and no one said a word to either one of us

You're welcome.

[fescuerescue]

131. thanks again

and keep up the good work!

[LaydeeBug]

165. Oh I will...bless your heart

[fescuerescue]

170. is there a problem?

I think it's great.

The OP did the right thing and putting this guy in his place. You should be thanking the OP to!

[LaydeeBug]

171. I posted the OP. No problem at all.

[Turbineguy]

64. Nice work.

[SunSeeker]

65. What told you she's in a veteran's family?

I mean, other than the fact that so many currently serving service members, as well as veterans, are on food stamps.

[LaydeeBug]

108. Didn't need to be told...

around here, I have more of a chance of being right about that than being wrong.

Lucky guess that I was right.

[Coolest Ranger]

66. Let me tell you something

My uncles are veterans but I'm not but had you done that for me because I know how i would have reacted. I would have been ashamed. I don't like asking for help so anything I can get to make it until the 3rd of the next month is helpful. So I would have been in tears personally but to see so many people come to my defense like that that would have made me feel better and if I have my phone on me I would have recorded that for social media. I don't go anywhere without my phone now

[Aristus]

68. K&R!

Good for you!

[Lint Head]

70. Excellent! You are my hero.

[redstateblues]

79. Inspirational- Thank you for your courage!

[renate]

73. you are freakin' awesome!!!!

Your posts always delight me because there you are with your dainty little name and your dainty little ladybug picture and yet you are tougher than Rambo and smart as hell. I adore you.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

74. GOOD. FOR. YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[we can do it]

75. You are my hero.

[meadowlark5]

76. THAT is AWESOME!!

I so love that you did that, that you were able to do that!

[world wide wally]

81. MORE of THIS!

[Leith]

82. Good for You!

I rather like raising a ruckus in public for a good cause. I would have done the same.

[moondust]

83. You win, LB.

That takes courage.

[Vinca]

84. Bravo to you!

[TheBlackAdder]

85. K and a big fucking R!

[Gothmog]

87. Good Job-thank you for your actions here

[jeffreyi]

88. Wow

Epic. May we all have your gift of perfect bug squashing rant when we need it

[lastone]

89. These idiot Neanderthals must be shouted down at every possible opportunity!

Great job LaydeeBug!

[demigoddess]

90. good job!!!!from another military brat!!!

wish I'd been there.

[treestar]

92. Good for you!

I don't get though, how did you know she was in a Veteran's family?

[Missn-Hitch]

93. Well, that just made my day.

[Freedomofspeech]

94. That is just beautiful....

Thank you. Every time I hear people complain about food stamps, I ask them if they are okay with corporate welfare. They are so stupid and awful that they just don't get it.

[SummerSnow]

97. Awesome!!!!!

[cwydro]

98. I know your intentions were good.

And it seems this person was grateful, but you might easily have embarrassed her.

Your shouting, cursing, and causing a scene alerted everyone in the store to the fact she was using a Snap card (didn't know anyone called them food stamps anymore).

Maybe next time, speak to the asshat in a quiet manner (he was right beside you as you said).

[Red Mountain]

105. Respectfully disagree

We've got to build a public consensus any way we can. Not letting bullies have their way with us one by one sends a clear message.

He'll think twice next time.

[kickitup]

116. I agree with you. There was no need to "project" it to the entire store.

[Ms. Toad]

143. Agreed.

People on public assistance are subjected to lots of indignities from a variety of sources.

They may welcome someone defending them, even if it means announcing to the world (within earshot) that they are receiving public assistance - or it may make their lives even more emotionally challenging. It ought to be their choice, in advance of making a noisy announcement about it.

We should not risk making it harder on them - there are other ways of fighting back.

[cwydro]

155. I'm not on public assistance, but I would have been horribly embarrassed had it been me.

But I'm shy by nature anyway.

I would have turned and said, "Please," while shaking my head no.

[kickitup]

167. My son and his girlfriend received SNAP benefits before and after their child was born.

He's still in college, while she had graduated and had not found a job. Neither one would have appreciated anyone carrying on in such a way even if the motive was a good one. Actually, my son would have been furious that someone 1) was using him to make a point, and 2) was assuming he couldn't take up for himself or needed defending.

And God forbid someone would have done that to the mother of his child.

[cwydro]

177. Years ago, I had a part-time job at a grocery store.

I would have been embarrassed for all involved actually.

Even back then, cards were used. Someone really would have to be paying attention to know WHAT kind of card another customer was using. And be seriously fucked up to even CARE.

[melman]

152. I would agree

if I believed this happened.

[BuddhaGirl]

189. +1

I applaud the OP's actions of standing up for the woman using SNAP, but one's point can be made without screaming obscenities.

Then there's also the assumption that the woman wanted that noisy attention, in that moment.

[Initech]

99. I would definitely applaud that!

[stage left]

100. Two thumbs up.

I hope I would show courage like yours in a similar situation.

[Chalco]

101. You are a good person. Thank you. nt

[malaise]

102. What a beautiful post

[SpankMe]

104. Great story. Thanks for standing up.

This should be the creed of everyone here on DU - to visibly, orally and otherwise push back and confront any act of Trump-ism you witness in public. The pushback should be restrained, non-physical, dignified and informed, yet assertive, pointed and brief. Don't get drawn into a debate. These people are so ignorant that they're hard to argue with.

[oberliner]

110. Seems like you could've made your point without screaming and swearing

With all due respect.

[Dave in VA]

111. LaydeeBug for President!

Maybe we have a candidate for 2020!

[ffr]

120. We can start small, mayor.

But yeah. Hell yeah! Nicely done and thank you!

[mchill]

112. Thank you!

[nolabear]

114. You're a Warrior for Humanity! Thank you!

I'll try to keep your bravery in mind. You're right. We cannot let them bully us.

[RavensChick]

115. That's wonderful!

You did the right thing, so I'm sure that dude will think twice before he says anything bad about our veterans. BTW, I'm a Theatre grad so projection is everything!

[Jopin Klobe]

117. I teared up ...

... while applauding ...

[Hulk]

118. God bless you for your courage!!!

This is what good Americans need to be doing around the world today and in our future. Stand up to these ignorant, selfish bastards who disgrace the land we fought to bleed for.

Fuck him, and ALL like him.

[MarinCoUSA]

119. Bravo!

n/t

[PlanetBev]

122. Thank you, Ladeebug

One of my New Year's resolutions is to become more courageous in speaking out to these people. I have learned the hard way that by ignoring bullies, they go after go like the weakest gazelle in the jungle.

You are my inspiration to continue to stand up to these shit-for-brains types. They have no boundaries and need to be called out whenever the occasion arises.

[alarimer]

126. We have become so callous in this country.

I'm not talking about you; I think that was a great response. He certainly never expected that pushback. And maybe that's the answer- to start challenging people on their assumption that we agree with them when we don't. It's probably long past time to stop isolating ourselves in political silos. Maybe challenging these folks will help. I don't know.

But why is it that we no longer care about the least of us? I mean some people never have cared, but where is the compassion for the less fortunate? I'm even starting to see it here, based on how people voted.

[Tracyjo]

127. Excellent!

[Jacob Boehme]

128. And in the end....

.... The Love You Take
Is Equal To The Love You Make.
(John, Paul, George and Ringo)

[DonCoquixote]

130. to the greatest with you

please, if america is to survive, THIS is the sort of heroism we need!

[Hekate]

133. I have a feeling this will go viral. Folks, be sure to credit LaydeeBug!

[PatrickforO]

134. That tickled me!

What a great thing to do!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

135. Thank you!

The guy was probably a Limbaugh "ditto head" who's been convinced that government social programs are more harmful to him than the military-industrial complex and corporate welfare.

[Lifelong Protester]

136. Thank you for being bold

And standing up for someone else.

[doggie breath]

138. Congratulations

Not many people would call out such vile behavior in a public place.

[teezy]

139. And I cried too!

You and people like you are heroes. People in need don't feel like they have a voice when they're being bullied for asking for help. I've been in that woman's shoes and it's hard. Like it isn't bad enough going to the welfare office and asking for help. Then you have to have members of the public expose you or shame you for it, in front of other people? That didn't happen to me, but a family member of mine called me once after we got into an argument and left me a voicemail telling me to stop being a bum and get off welfare... and threw in how ashamed I made them. I was on it for about 3 months after I lost my job, just to keep myself fed and keep a roof over my head until I got another job. People fucking suck sometimes.

[Afromania]

146. Real Patriot Right There

This gets all the thumbs up and high fives, forever.....

F!
O!
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[niyad]

149. good for you, LB!!! we cannot allow these bigoted jerks to go unchallenged in their arrogance.

[LaydeeBug]

157. That's so funny! My bestie's initals are LB, and I call her this all the time

and you just made the connection that my handle is that way too. Thanks!

[niyad]

159. you are most welcome!!

[humbled_opinion]

161. Picture this

Young man working for minimum wage, barely afford car insurance on his beater, shares apartment with 4 friends, works at Taco Bell, one day at the drive thru window a guy drives up in his nice newer model car orders a ton of food and pays for it using an EBT card, the same benefits that the working young man was turned down for because making minimum wage was too much money to qualify for assistance. Order gets messed up somehow and angry EBT using guy viciously lashes out at minimum wage Working man, who than also gets blasted by his shift manager, young man wants to quit job but doesn't.

I told my son to just let it roll off his shoulders because we will fight everyday to try and make the minimum wage a thing of the past replaced by a living wage that would make a person proud of working hard.

[LaydeeBug]

182. EBT cards can't be used for prepared or hot foods...so

your son's story is a little suspect.

And spiteful

[humbled_opinion]

216. and you are wrong EBT's are

used in some fast food places in Florida why don't you do some fact checking before launching unfounded accusations about truth telling. hmmm.

[LaydeeBug]

222. Actually, I am not wrong at all, but don't let that stop you

I've never been on food stamps, so I am not aware of what it's called now, etc, but your spiteful story made me check for where I am...and, of course...you can't buy prepared foods with food stamps in Maryland, but you *can*, however, use them at the farmer's market.

You refer to a pilot program they launched in 2011.

Also, learning to be a "share" person instead of a "compare" person might go a long way toward happiness. Your "imagine this" story involves your son deciding that the person using the EBT card at Taco Bell actually owned the car, etc. You have to make the 'lowest common denominator' stretch each time, at every comparison. The person using the food stamps at Taco Bell has not walked a mile in your son's shoes. But your son hasn't walked a mile in that person's shoes either. But know this: if your son needed help, and sought help HERE in the USA and it wasn't available to him, for whatever reason...regardless of the "other"...then I am really, really sorry, because that means that we fell short on some level...each and every one of us.

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. We throw away too much food while our own go hungry and it is fucking wrong.

So I am sorry you know anyone who reached out for help, and didn't get it. It isn't "they didn't get the help because the Taco Bell card user did...the two are unrelated.

Hope that helps.

[Packerowner741]

296. As stated below in post 231, EBT cards can be used for fast food in 4 states

You owe your poster an apology.

[DLevine]

297. The program is only for some who are homeless, elderly, or disabled.

It targets those who are unable to prepare their own meals.

[LaydeeBug]

300. No I don't

[Packerowner741]

302. You accuse the poster of lying just like that other poster did to you

Yes you do

[LaydeeBug]

304. No I don't, but don't let it stop you

welcome to DU

[DLevine]

298. They are available in FL only for some who are disabled, elderly, or homeless.

On!y AZ, CA, FL & MI have this program, which is exclusively for those people unable to prepare their own meals. If the young man becomes homeless, disabled, or elderly to the point he can no longer cook his own meals, he will get that same benefit.

[nadine_mn]

192. People who use EBT cards know *Exactly* what it can be used for - and it's NOT fast food

I will give you and your son the benefit of the doubt that this happened as you have described. However, since you CANNOT use EBT cards for prepared hot foods, there is no way it would have been approved at Taco Bell.

More likely would be someone found or stole an EBT card, no idea how it works - is just used to the idea that the uninformed project that EBT= free food, and tried to use at Taco Bell.

[humbled_opinion]

217. No that is not true the rules

have been relaxed for various reasons... but that is beside the point. This happened and happens, the broader context being that the working person pays the taxes that the non working person uses to get the food prepared by the working person who's life is not improved from the work because of such low minimum wage.

Fight for living wage, I always support people that need help getting help through the welfare system but I refuse to support welfare instead of work and think that higher minimum wage can help fix that disparity.

[nadine_mn]

231. Of course a living wage is important - but not everyone can work

Last edited Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:19 AM - Edit history (1)

refusing to support welfare instead of work? No one advocates that if you are able to work you should sit on your butt and collect welfare. But a lot of those "non-working" people are elderly, disabled, or not making enough to get by. You do realize you CAN work and still be eligible for benefits - this helps WORKING single parents as well. I know you say you support getting help through the welfare system, however it sounds like you don't really understand how the system works.

Currently 4 states allow EBT at fast food, I apologize for not realizing that. But not sure how that is "relaxed" - what it is meant is for people who cannot prepare food - homeless, elderly, disabled - to still be able to eat. I am sorry your son did not qualify for benefits and I am sorry he ran across one of the small % who will always exploit any system. But food stamps aren't a waste of tax payer dollars.


Edit - did more research on EBT usage.

[DLevine]

299. Yes, damn those useless eaters! Where are their bootstraps!

[humbled_opinion]

303. I guess they ate them ... LOL.. n/t

[stonecutter357]

162. K&R!

[Caliman73]

163. Great Job!

K&R

[Raine]

164. You're the absolute best! nt

[DonCoquixote]

166. we are going to need to be loud and proud

This is so refreshing! Understandably this board has been inundated by the 10,000 iterations of "we have to understand why we got the white working class angry at us and must trying to make amends or else we will lose every election forever!” Now, let me be blunt. Yes, we do have to figure out why our message is not getting out to certain parts of the country. That is not a new issue, it has been an issue ever since Nixon did his "Southern strategy" that in effect turned a lot of the former union members against the Democratic Party. Yes we are still stunned from those "Reagan Democrats", or "independent voters that for some reason always vote Republican", or any of 1000 little iterations that we are very used to seeing.

However, we cannot forget one thing: a lot of these conservative voters like to bully. Let's be honest, America likes bullies, whether they are on the football field, the reality television shows, the board rooms, are comic books, or any number of ways. We can try to go ahead and be reasonable, but the fact is unless we show our opponents that we can and will land a left hook to their job to match the ones they are aiming below are belts and at our guts they will not respect us. Sadly, this, reasonableness is interpreted as weakness. Actually we know that the word they would use is not weakness but we cannot go ahead and use that sort of language here on DU, if nothing else because it would show a lot of racial, gender, intellectual slurs. Simply put, of only all the sudden run to the hills when they realize the people that they have bullied are not going to go ahead and take their crap anymore, yes they may go ahead and try to get verbally friends to teach that uppity person unless and. I have had times on this board where people have talked to me and said that they would "straighten me out", and these are supposed liberals. The Internet is like the phenomenon they used to call "beer muscles", were a lot of people who fancy themselves at war years start shaking their fist, even though anyone who actually saw the person behind the curtain would realize that they are anything but the alpha males they think they are. This is where we pulled the curtains away and make it clear that if people are going to feel emboldened by Mr. Trump to let their inner demons fly out of their mouth and vomit on our face that we will at the very least call them out for the weaklings they are and very possibly make them get a mop and bucket and clean up their mess. If they don't then they can be relegated to the second-class citizenship they rightfully deserve not one based on race creed or color but simply because they choose to enjoy ignorant behavior at other people's expense.

Some people some of them in Congress some of them in the checkout line are thinking that the way that they are going to get through these four years is by holding their mouth shut and ignoring people when they go ahead and papal antics. I have news for you, yes sometimes discretion is the better part of valor, but when you deal with an aggressive, vicious sort that has been told they will not feel and need repercussions for their actions, that does not help you. Even if you have placated them, compromised with them, flattered them, try to understand them, all that they are going to think is that you were weak and that they have a God-given right to abuse you, use you, and discard you. It sure as hell doesn't help that the churches, the networks, and yes clerks in the checkout line will be encouraging all of this. The enemy does not just want a piece of the pie, they want the pie, the bakery, and everything else, and when they get everything else, they're going to the plane that they are still not getting all they want, so we will try to find someone else to mess with. If we're lucky, their response will be "let's find a new person to make war with" because frankly the Chinese are not going to stand for that.

[Kaleva]

169. What state still uses food stamps?

To the best of my knowledge, food stamps were phased out nationwide over 10 years ago.

[DLevine]

173. Many of us still call them food stamps. We know it's actually a card. nt

[Kaleva]

223. My SNAP card looks like and works like any debit card

I go thru no special procedure in using it and it's just as fast as using a credit or debit card.

[DLevine]

232. PA Access cards are a solid blue-green background with ACCESS written in bold,

bright yellow letters that cover about half the card. I can't post an image, but it's easy to google. They stick out like a sore thumb. When I was on snap a few years ago, I had to tell the cashier I was using an Access card so she could hit the ebt key on her register before I could slide the card. Also, the sliders were vertical, making it easy to see the card when you go to slide it.

All this is just to try to get people to understand that the op's experience not only happens, it happens all the time, in many states. It happened to me.

[JPPaverage]

172. You sound like one helluva woman!

Sure wish I would have been there to see that. Because when one laughs at those assholes, they tend to get REAL angry and flustered. And I would have been laughing my fool head off.
See, I once told a trumpite that I'd gladly rip his head off his shoulders and shove it up his ass. Those exact words. He said stuff about my kid and NOBODY does that. So as I said, it would have been my pleasure to watch you put that dope in his place and laugh in his face while you did so. Here's to you.

[ailsagirl]

175. So proud of you, LaydeeBug!

[Docreed2003]

178. I applaud and salute you

You are a hero for that and an inspiration! Well done

[BlancheSplanchnik]

179. I absolutely love you

I'm gonna share! Great role model for further action.



They always start out furtive, testing to see how far they can go.

[LaydeeBug]

181. I can't believe this! Guys!!! You are awesome and I feel so good for

telling that asshole to fuck off.

I just told my mother what happened on the phone and she told me I was my father's daughter, and that she wishes I wouldn't cuss so much when confronting those assholes. Next time, think of a nicer way to tell him to fuck off.

[PatsFan87]

183. Awesome job!!

[YOHABLO]

186. I would have joined in with you my friend. I would be pointing my finger directly at him

and re-enhancing your sentiments. I'm so sick of these people who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. Greed Greed Greed. They think they are so above everyone else. Well to tell the truth everyone is walking on thin ice these days, unless you happen to be part of the top 10 to 1%. I hope this guy develops a goyder on his ass.

[calimary]

199. And they don't want to help people.

They don't want to help you. And they don't think they should have to, either. That's always for somebody else to do - and then be laughed at for being a "libtard" or a "Demoncrat". Selfishness and greed have been raised to the level of sacraments by the republiCONs, and CONservatives, everywhere. They're the IGMFU party. IGMFU = "I Got Mine, F-U." They're the "Sucks to be You" party. They're cold-hearted, cruel, thoughtless, selfish, greedy. The WORST.

And ironically, they'll also be the first ones to insist that they're more "Christian" than you, too. Which is a complete joke. They'll be first to wave the Bible in your face and declare you a stupid, faithless infidel. And they'll likely quote something from Leviticus to prove it. Oddly enough, NEVER have I heard from these people with all their references to the Bible - ANY quotes from the Beatitudes, ANY quotes from the parable of the rich young man, ANY quotes referencing "whatever you do to the least of these, you do to ME." They seem to like the Old Testament best, but they never cite the story about Cain and Abel, and God confronting Cain after Cain killed his brother. You NEVER hear any of that. Not EVER. I've made kind of a game of it - listening for references like these from the mouths and pulpits and TV shows and media empires. Not a one. Not a single one! Not EVER! They do manage to hide their Golden Calf statues, though...

[LaydeeBug]

249. They will give you Luke. We will give them Matthew.

and they also keep editing the Bible...which is where a lot gets lost.

[calimary]

265. I wish it were Luke - more than what we usually get from them: a Leviticus mentality.

[LaydeeBug]

266. They should really ask whether they follow the Old Testament or the New one.

Good grief.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

188. Run for office

You are exactly the Kind of leader we need in our party

[Auntie Bush]

190. Maybe you weren't being a lady but you sure shoved a bug up her ass.

[calimary]

193. These selfish, cold-hearted shit-heads NEED to be confronted.

And in a style like this one!

BRAVA, LaydeeBug!

They do it because they're lost in the Pox/limbaugh-&-clones bubble world where they've come to believe that theirs is the view everyone has, or should have. They need to be jolted back into reality. They need to have it shoved in their faces that THEY ARE WRONG!!! WRONG AS CAN BE!!! Heartless and very much UN-Christian. What if that was Christ, in the checkout line, paying with food stamps? You know, THAT Guy. The Dude Who's widely quoted as saying "whatever you do to the least of these, you do to Me."

[UTUSN]

194. ...

[Uponthegears]

195. Beautiful

Beautiful message
Beautiful example

[benld74]

198. Stand up, stand out, and shout!!!

[Madam45for2923]

200. We ARE stronger together!

BRAVO!! You set a good example on how to cut the bullying at it's first fits & starts. Nip the fucker right away and in the bud.

[Dawgman49]

201. Bravo !!

[heaven05]

202. BLESS your beautiful soul

[blue sky at night]

203. PROUD OF YOU!

I know we should all be doing this...Thanks!

[liberal N proud]

204. Good for you, we all need to stand up to these assholes

[jodymarie aimee]

208. Bravo LadyBug

Walker slashed FS to the bone here in WI. Maximum for single adult is $16 a month. 60cents a day. In 2014 Xmas, that fuck had Rs standing outside our grocery stores with clipboards asking shoppers if they wanted to dictate how they were spent. My pal called me and I got there fast and told them to get the heck out of there, and by the way Merry Xmas. Then I came home and cried.

They hate the poor and wanted to shame them further.

[geretogo]

212. I feel like I am watching " Invasion of the body snatchers " as I come in contact with

the beings that voted for Trump such as the being in the store . They look human
but you say to your self , there must be some alien life inhabiting this human look alike .

[FailureToCommunicate]

213. Wow! Good for you for leveling a clear-eyed response he couldn't miss!

[Feeling the Bern]

214. Good. It's time we do that all the time

[roamer65]

215. You are a true American.

[AgadorSparticus]

218. I am so glad people like you are out there. Big hugs to you, ladeebug!

That was AWESOME!!! I truly wish I could have been there.

[dae]

219. You are an incredibly brave and wonderful person!

[denvine]

220. Thank you!!

[jimlup]

221. Awesome!

Nice story. You should see if one of the news services might pick it up.

[Kaleva]

224. The lady was probably using WIC coupons and not food stamps

Food stamps were phased out over 10 years ago but some states still issue coupons for WIC benefits.

[LaydeeBug]

228. It was the bright orange card...I don't know what they're called. We call 'em food stamps.

[barbtries]

225. good for you

shut him right up. made him think even, maybe. he will probably think twice before being such a dick again.

[Lotusflower70]

227. Good for you

Well done. It's important to stand up to hatred and ignorance. People attack others based on their own assumptions and expect everyone else to sit back and accept it. I say screw that. No one deserves to be treated with such disrespect. That person has issues. We can't sit idly by and allow this sort of thing to happen.

[True_Blue]

229. Haha! Love it!

You rock!

[leftyladyfrommo]

233. It's no wonder so many food stamp

People shop at Walmart at 4 in the morning. They don't want to be embarrassed like that.

[LaydeeBug]

235. Yep. Or that they're dressed nicely...

It's probably their only day of running...

[Johnny2X2X]

236. Speak up

Do not be silent anymore! Do not let it go, it's time we let them know their garbage won't pas any longer.

[onecent]

237. GOOD FOR YOU LaydeeBug!!!!! GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

[Big_K]

238. You've just moved to the top of my list of future wives.

Fucking Good For You!

[Bucky]

240. A safety pin moment

Than you for this

[LaydeeBug]

242. I am not sure what a safety pin moment is, but am shocked at the response here

It warms me in no uncertain way.

[niyad]

250. wearing a safety pin to indicate that one is "safe haven" if someone is being bullied or

harassed or threatened. started with brexit, moved over here with drumpfy's rise.

that was why I said, wearing my pin or not. it identifies us as people who care, who will help if there is a problem.

mine is actually a blanket pin (LARGE). since the groper-in-chief has unleashed the haters, it doubles as a hat pin (must talk to red hat society about more hat pins!!)

[LaydeeBug]

251. This is an amazing idea, and something I hadn't heard of

Thank you for it

[niyad]

252. the safety pin idea started in britain after the insane brexit vote. and I would guess that

the hat pin idea is not exactly an original one (I used to wear one disguised as a lapel pin when I wore blazers)

[Bucky]

257. The safety pin movement started right after the election...

people wear safety pins when they are pro tolerance. It's just a quiet way of letting targeted Americans know that they have an ally whether they're a minority, immigrant, or oppressed by nationalism or xenophobia or Trumpism in any way.

[malaise]

267. It showed manyhow to do the same

Take them on - there are lots of decent folks around

[FiveGoodMen]

243. I asked you in another thread what you meant (in a practical sense) by 'fighting back'

This was a great answer!

[LaydeeBug]

244. There is no good answer to "fight back" when they own or run everything

do NOT let the Soviet Republicans frame the narrative. EVER. We love America. Not *Russia*.

[Mountain Mule]

253. Excellent!

I am the daughter of a career military father myself - US Army, 30 Proud Years of Service! I too have fallen upon hard times and I'm forced to use the SNAP program (food stamps) just to have something to put on my table. If some idiot were to take me to task about this, I'd go ballistic. My Dad fought in 3 wars to help defend our rights under the Constitution and that includes the right of free speech. I urge everyone to use this right to it's fullest extent!

[itcfish]

254. God Bless

You and yours!

[LaydeeBug]

256. you too. Thank you.

[MadDAsHell]

255. My one and only issue with food stamps is that it perpetuates Medicaid expenditures.f

The way we run the program, with absolutely no empahasis on nutritious or organic foods, can be at least partly blamed for skyrocketing Medicaid costs, as many beneficiaries of food stamps later have extremely high Medicaid expenditures due to overall poor health.

When we know many food stamp beneficiaries are also going to be Medicaid beneficiaries, why aren't we doing more to make sure one program doesn't negatively influence the expenditures of the other?

[LaydeeBug]

280. This is a strawman

[Packerowner741]

295. As the father of a naval officer, thank you.

[LaydeeBug]

305. As the daughter of an Army Officer, you are most welcome

I have been very much on edge since the Russian highjacking of our democracy and I had what I will politely call, "words in a bar" with one guy, and then a few days later, this happened.

For the first time in my life, I *understand* how people just *fight*, because TWICE I was ready, truly, really, actually ready to step outside with a motherfucker. Like *THAT*. Really.