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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:18 PM Dec 2016

Progressives are working to take over local state Democratic Parties

Sanders Supporters Gain Some Ground Against Hostile Democratic Party
Michael Sainato
Observer

... Shortly after the presidential election, Sanders activist Stacy Patel was elected Democratic Party chair in Brevard County of Florida. Several other Sanders supporters won Democratic Party committee positions. They capitalized on the area having a relatively weak Democratic Party establishment presence to assume power locally, and begin to influence the Florida Democratic Party.

In January, Sanders supporters are organizing to elect one of their own, Tina Podlodowski, to unseat current Washington Democratic Party chair Jaxon Ravens. Sanders supporters have gradually taken over local Democratic committee positions to provide a better reflection of the progressive values within the party, and rally enough votes to overthrow the establishment leadership in the state party.

In Nebraska, Sanders supporter Jane Kleeb won election to serve as the State’s Democratic Party chair in June, assuming the role officially this month. Sanders won the state comfortably in the Democratic primaries, and the state party’s appointments have reflected his popularity, with 70 percent identifying as Sanders supporters.

Hawaii experienced a similar coup, with pro-Sanders Tim Vanderveer winning the position as the state’s party chair shortly after Sanders trounced Clinton in the March primary caucuses.

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Progressives are working to take over local state Democratic Parties (Original Post) portlander23 Dec 2016 OP
They can't have NJ JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #1
Nebraska is an interesting example in that he won the caucus, yet lost the primary. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #2
Exactly - I don't know why they are doing this in Washington, where we are strong. LisaM Dec 2016 #5
It's not so much of a knee-jerk reaction as it is a failure of democracy. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #9
It was 11 hours in some precincts.... LisaM Dec 2016 #14
Ok, so if, as you say, they didn't show up for the caucus because they didn't want to be bullied, progressoid Dec 2016 #16
All of OurRevolution candidates won here in Austin! ananda Dec 2016 #3
This is Great news kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #4
What does this have to do with the DNC? NCTraveler Dec 2016 #8
Tell us! What are the needs of EVERY VOTER? SharonClark Dec 2016 #21
Interested to see their accomplishments in Brevard in two years. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #6
The problem with SOME of these people is.. nycbos Dec 2016 #7
It's the only way malaise Dec 2016 #10
Good. It's what is needed. alarimer Dec 2016 #11
"Corporate shills" at the local level? SharonClark Dec 2016 #19
Here's hoping they're willing to do the extremely boring procedural work. RedWedge Dec 2016 #12
Ain't that the truth! SharonClark Dec 2016 #20
good. H2O Man Dec 2016 #13
How nice that Kushner's rag is giving you so much fodder synergie Dec 2016 #15
This is a Trump family source? JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #17
Ivanka's husband's paper, which hasn't exactly been credible. synergie Dec 2016 #18
That is exactly how you do it. MineralMan Dec 2016 #22

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
2. Nebraska is an interesting example in that he won the caucus, yet lost the primary.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:22 PM
Dec 2016

Saying that the party there will accurately reflect the will of democratic voters there is laughable given the fact that it's makeup was determine by a caucus when a higher turnout primary produced different results. Not to mention that occurred in Washington as well.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
5. Exactly - I don't know why they are doing this in Washington, where we are strong.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:28 PM
Dec 2016

The caucuses were very, very contentious and a lot of Clinton supporters just didn't show because they didn't want to be bullied. Turnout was also very low. A primary was held later on, which Clinton won (with twice the turnout). And, the person they are running, Tina Podlodowski, just lost an election herself.

I'm not saying that the local parties don't need to be stronger, but I don't like this knee-jerk reaction.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
9. It's not so much of a knee-jerk reaction as it is a failure of democracy.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:37 PM
Dec 2016

The low turnout caucuses determined the make up of state delegations instead of the higher turnout primaries. Hence, the very effective Washington State Democratic Party is being dismantled by a group that doesn't fully represent the will of democratic voters that don't have 2-3 hours to spare in a contentious room. It will be very interesting to see whether this new bunch, for all of their "We're for the working people. No TPP or Trade" gets rid of the caucus in favor of the primary that actually favors working people who might not have the time after work to argue for 3 hours. I also wonder how anti-trade they are going to be, even though Washington is one of the most trade dependent states.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
14. It was 11 hours in some precincts....
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:05 PM
Dec 2016

not to mention their trying to change the results at every other level.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
16. Ok, so if, as you say, they didn't show up for the caucus because they didn't want to be bullied,
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:56 PM
Dec 2016

then perhaps its good that they are being replaced.

Voting in a primary is easy. You don't have to be bothered with the sausage making part of politics. But for boot-on-the-ground work, we need fighters.

ananda

(28,868 posts)
3. All of OurRevolution candidates won here in Austin!
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:22 PM
Dec 2016

Our new city councilwoman has stated publicly that
she will refuse any orders to detain or harm immigrants.

kcdoug1

(222 posts)
4. This is Great news
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:26 PM
Dec 2016

the old DNC must GO! it's way past time for new thinking and reaching out to and understanding the needs of EVERY VOTER!! THIS is how we make America, America again.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. What does this have to do with the DNC?
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:36 PM
Dec 2016

"THIS is how we make America, America again. "

Lets let Trump have his slogan. It's beyond stupid.

This group in Brevard was active and in place. There is nothing new here outside of the chair. A new chair who seems to be more passionate about being cool on facebook than anything else. Yeah!!! You will get your change.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
7. The problem with SOME of these people is..
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:35 PM
Dec 2016

... (notice I am saying some not all) is they have a very narrow view of what it means to be a Progressive. They seem to think if you don't support 100% of what they want you are a sellout and they won't show up.


The irony is that Bernie himself is not that way at all. He calls himself a socialist but he is really a very progressive pragmatist.


He work with real estate developers to revitalize Burlington. Also take the ACA as an example. It't not the single payer he wanted but millions have access to care now that they wouldn't have had otherwise.

He knows that is better than nothing. Also I think he sees the ACA as a step toward single payer.

RedWedge

(618 posts)
12. Here's hoping they're willing to do the extremely boring procedural work.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:59 PM
Dec 2016

A lot of party work is boring. Learning and following processes is boring. I've seen a lot of people get energized by one issue -- usually something they're against -- and they're discouraged by the processes that are in place to ensure a faction doesn't rise up out of nowhere to wreck something and run off. They get mad about "party insiders" who do understand the processes and can use them effectively. Change is hard and it takes time, if you're changing something within the system.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
15. How nice that Kushner's rag is giving you so much fodder
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:55 PM
Dec 2016

to help divide the party, Bernie. A little odd how the RW continue to push this narratives to try to make their dream of destroying the Democrats a reality by pumping up folks who have shown themselves to be hostile to Democrats in general.

Perhaps not so much with the RW sources, including ones run by Trump's new staff, due to violation of nepotism laws?

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
22. That is exactly how you do it.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:11 PM
Dec 2016

Good for them. And let others do the same across the country. The Democratic Party represents the people who become involved in it. Large numbers are not even needed, since local party organization are invariably small. Those local organizations are who elect people for the organizations at higher levels.

If you want the Democratic Party to change, it's up to you to change it by showing up and becoming the Party. I've been writing about that here on DU for years now. I hope people will begin listening to what people have suggested. Taking over the Democratic Party is simple. Just show up in numbers at every local Party Organization meeting.

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