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Sat Dec 24, 2016, 11:03 PM Dec 2016

There are times unions do make me angry...

Like police unions.
I have YET to see any police union that would want accountability for it's members, especially in shootings.
The Milwaukee police union is defending a member who shot an UNarmed man, sparking riots and arsons. And the guy is going on trial for RAPING 2 other men he got drunk.

And now there's this union, demanding (and getting) a $3200 a month pension for a guy who killed 4 passengers on his train.

Engineer in NYC crash that killed 4 to get lifetime pension

The Associated Press
Published: December 24, 2016, 7:26 pm | Updated: December 24, 2016, 7:36 pm

NEW YORK (AP) — An engineer who fell asleep at the controls of a speeding train in New York City, causing a derailment that killed four people, will receive a lifetime disability pension from the commuter railroad that employed him, a published report said

The Journal News reported Friday (http://lohud.us/2ieo0xy ) that William Rockefeller will receive $3,200 a month for life from Metro-North Railroad.

Rockefeller was at the controls of a Metro-North train that derailed in the Bronx in December 2013, killing four passengers and injuring dozens.

Prosecutors said Rockefeller fell asleep at the controls but declined to prosecute him.

The Journal News said officials cited medical privacy issues in refusing to discuss Rockefeller’s disability. In September, Rockefeller’s union said he was seeking the disability for a post-traumatic stress disorder brought on by the accident on Dec. 1, 2013.

The Metro-North pension is in addition to Rockefeller’s federal railroad retirement pension. The amount of that pension has not been disclosed.

Rockefeller has filed a $10 million federal lawsuit against Metro-North. He claims the commuter railroad was to blame for the accident.

The ruling on Rockefeller’s pension came from the Pension Disability Medical Review Board of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

“The Pension Disability Medical Review Board reviewed the appeal and determined that Mr. Rockefeller is disabled from performing his function as an engineer and he is eligible now to receive his pension,” the MTA said.

http://wbay.com/ap/engineer-in-nyc-crash-that-killed-4-to-get-lifetime-pension/

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There are times unions do make me angry... (Original Post) Archae Dec 2016 OP
They're not "demanding" it. RedWedge Dec 2016 #1
Separate issues unblock Dec 2016 #2

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Sat Dec 24, 2016, 11:28 PM
Dec 2016

He earned his pension and is entitled to it.
He got a disability on the job and is entitled to whatever benefits were promised for that.

Separately, he may have civil liability for his actions. He could have had criminal liability, but apparently that's not being pursued. Sounds like he deserves to pay a civil penalty, but that doesn't mean not getting a pension. Different things.

When someone does something wrong, it's tempting to want every bad thing possible to happen to them, but only some are appropriate.

In this case, the victims deserve some compensation, but why should the employer get a win out of this?

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