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So, how soon before The Orange Imbecile gets us in a war? (Original Post) Different Drummer Dec 2016 OP
Putin may order him to attack Turkey lame54 Dec 2016 #1
No, not Turkey; we have a base there. haele Dec 2016 #9
He'll still be twitting... wcmagumba Dec 2016 #2
June or July. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #3
i don't know, but i'm staying out of shopping malls and tall buildings. unblock Dec 2016 #4
2019. Just in time for the election of 2020. Yavin4 Dec 2016 #5
The Hurl of Orange will more likely sell us out in pieces than destroy us in war Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #6
That's more likely....nt 2naSalit Dec 2016 #14
It's a proven way to quickly shut down any dissent... VOX Dec 2016 #7
July 4th lpbk2713 Dec 2016 #8
Last I looked we are involved in several wars right now. former9thward Dec 2016 #10
Cut taxes for the rich during a major war for a second time Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #11
Reichstag fire will be internal. haele Dec 2016 #12
Given all the generals he's surrounded himself with... Xolodno Dec 2016 #13
My vote is with China in the South China Sea or one China Policy. gordianot Dec 2016 #15
Won't be long! 2naSalit Dec 2016 #16
No more than 6 months nt doc03 Dec 2016 #17
It will start in the south china sea. drray23 Dec 2016 #18

haele

(12,667 posts)
9. No, not Turkey; we have a base there.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:27 PM
Dec 2016

More likely Putin will tell Trump to stand down while he re-takes the Baltics and most of eastern Europe under the guise of helping the "Russian Natives" that the old Soviet state moved into those regions back in the day. Russia doesn't have enough troops for an all-out shooting war, so these countries will drop through internal strife.
As for Turkey, Erdogan is a useful fool to him, anyway - a buffer between Russia and the Gulf States. The ambassador was probably a surprise, but he can use it to his advantage.

We'll still probably be sending troops into little proxy fights Putin allows us to get into for oil or other resources. But he's got to save our military in reserve if there's going to be shooting war with China within the next 5 years.

Just looking at the strategic ramifications here. Attacking Turkey is not in Putin's interest.
However, letting countries in the Middle East and Africa continue to cripple themselves with inter-tribal warfare does work to Russia's interest. That destabilizes all the former colonial nations refugees will be fleeing to, as well as investors and businesses in those countries. (And it keeps a thumb in the eye of the Gulf Nations who are trying to screw with Russia economically)

Haele

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
2. He'll still be twitting...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:16 PM
Dec 2016

from the presidenting bunker...those freeze dried trump steaks will sure taste good after 2 years underground...welcome to Oceania.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
6. The Hurl of Orange will more likely sell us out in pieces than destroy us in war
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:20 PM
Dec 2016

Step 1: Sell out.

Step 2: Profit!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
7. It's a proven way to quickly shut down any dissent...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:23 PM
Dec 2016

And there will be a LOT of dissent. It took BushCo just 9 months to take care of their popular-vote loss.

Hate to say it, but some serious shit is headed our way.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
11. Cut taxes for the rich during a major war for a second time
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:30 PM
Dec 2016

The nation will teeter on bankruptcy until a Democrat takes back the White House and then suddenly you'll hear the words deficit and entitlement cuts non-stop from the GOP.

YES: Americans are that stupid!

haele

(12,667 posts)
12. Reichstag fire will be internal.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:34 PM
Dec 2016

Home grown terrorism with mass casualties blamed on "immigrants" or some other marginalized group. Excuse to set up a watch list, round up masses of people for the slightest suspicion, and start internment camps. They'll be more comfortable than Manzinar, but not by much, because, tax breaks or something.

Of course, that won't include any random Planned Parenthood bombing, Mosque or Temple bombing, or attack on any "Liberal" target - because that's just the good old Trumpatriots doing the right thing - Making Amerikkka White Again, like some of their Founders wanted it to be.

And there will again be some Strange Fruit...

Haele

Xolodno

(6,398 posts)
13. Given all the generals he's surrounded himself with...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:39 PM
Dec 2016

...won't be long.

But, I'll caveat that they will be quick and short like Grenada, so he can claim how awesome he is. He knows getting bogged down in the mid-east will be unpopular in the long run. He'll play chicken to some extent with China because of the need for a boogey man.

Basically any war will serve his business empire. I'm thinking if you are a small Asian or south east Asian island nation that has refused a Trump hotel or golf course, I weep for you.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
15. My vote is with China in the South China Sea or one China Policy.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:49 PM
Dec 2016

Military planners have been worried about Inauguration Day for decades and the transfer of power.

drray23

(7,637 posts)
18. It will start in the south china sea.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:31 PM
Dec 2016

China already said that they have restrained themselves so far because Trump is not yet president. The drone thing was probably a warning shot across the bow which totally went missed by Trump. Once he is president, if he disses them they will retaliate with an incident.
The delicate balance of the one china policy is being broken. China might decide that with Trump president they can invade Taiwan militarily and be willing to take the heat and call Trump's bluff.


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