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Tomorrow's may be the most important Presidential address since Nineleven(TM). (Original Post) KamaAina Dec 2016 OP
Let's hope so. nt femmocrat Dec 2016 #1
I refuse to get my hopes way up SHRED Dec 2016 #2
Transcript leaked: "America needs me to prevent this epic fuckup from occurring, NightWatcher Dec 2016 #3
The suspense. C_U_L8R Dec 2016 #4
I'll put my money on a wimp out DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #5
I don't think he'll ask us to play nice. BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #8
His temperment is just concilliatory DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #34
I would not bet on that GusBob Dec 2016 #11
Fuck that. roamer65 Dec 2016 #17
Sadly in agreement with you. JudyM Dec 2016 #28
He's going to have a very special announcement. Dave Starsky Dec 2016 #35
+1 SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #37
My hope? mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #6
Would be sad if he left all hope to the Electors flamingdem Dec 2016 #7
The President has no power SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #12
No, but the Supreme Court does with the precedent of Bush v Gore 2000. mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #14
Bush v. Gore SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #15
Really? They stopped the vote recount in Florida which mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #20
There is also other precedent for a court overturning an election result due to fraud. NYC Liberal Dec 2016 #22
I agree that had the count continued SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #23
Actually Gore opted to call for recounting in only 4 counties and independent analysis showed... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #44
And now you know why the fascists stalled Garland all this time. KamaAina Dec 2016 #24
I didn't even know he had one scheduled. . . .! BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #9
2:15 eastern time last I heard. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #10
And on a Friday. cwydro Dec 2016 #21
Certainly hope so.. pbmus Dec 2016 #13
Only if he declassifies all the Russian info. Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #16
Hopefully full declassification. roamer65 Dec 2016 #18
Huh? Tom Brady is going to be announced as the new Surgeon General. madinmaryland Dec 2016 #19
I heard it was going to be Tony Romo. KamaAina Dec 2016 #27
Yet Brady still managed to thrash the Ravens this week with surgical precision Achilleaze Dec 2016 #40
Finally... lame54 Dec 2016 #25
I'm hoping for a Constitutional coup so that he can stay in office for life. milestogo Dec 2016 #26
And they do that in South America. ... spin Dec 2016 #32
He's not really "addressing" the nation, he's holding a press conference... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #29
got nothing Backwoodsrider Dec 2016 #30
I'm completely pessimistic about it Warpy Dec 2016 #31
He can call a state of emergency. That is within his power. McCamy Taylor Dec 2016 #33
Will he call the state of emergency forthemiddle Dec 2016 #36
We might review the Constitution dumbcat Dec 2016 #38
Tomorrow is today madokie Dec 2016 #39
I'll just set my expectations super low and hope that he exceeds them. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #41
He will smile and say tavernier Dec 2016 #42
Thread win! KamaAina Dec 2016 #43

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. Transcript leaked: "America needs me to prevent this epic fuckup from occurring,
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 10:14 PM
Dec 2016

so I will retain the office of the Presidency for a term of 4 years. In that time, we will secure our elections and pass new voter protection measures that allow each citizen a voice."

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
4. The suspense.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 10:14 PM
Dec 2016

I hope our President doesn't hold back and gives
us a good Obama-style mic drop. This is 3D chess
you Trump chumps. Obama out !

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
34. His temperment is just concilliatory
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 07:37 AM
Dec 2016

I wish he was different, but he's just not one to go on a classic rant.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
11. I would not bet on that
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 10:42 PM
Dec 2016

In September he told putty to his face to knock it off or else

He has to come out swinging

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
35. He's going to have a very special announcement.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:45 AM
Dec 2016

Santa Claus will be appearing on the White House lawn tomorrow, if anyone should like to bring their little Americans to meet Jolly Old Saint Nick. And if Santa just happens to look like award-winning film and television star Martin Sheen in a beard (wink), then all we can say is, "Ho Ho Ho!"

Hot apple cider and sugar cookies will be served.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
6. My hope?
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 10:22 PM
Dec 2016

Nullification of the election and nationwide do over scheduled for Jan 20, 2017.

My belief?

Nice speech encouraging the Electoral College to rise to what appears to be a Constitutional crisis.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
14. No, but the Supreme Court does with the precedent of Bush v Gore 2000.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:00 PM
Dec 2016

And Obama could certainly announce that legal action has been commenced...

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
20. Really? They stopped the vote recount in Florida which
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:12 PM
Dec 2016

effectively stopped the process to verify the election results.

Independent analysis of the votes by several organizations after Gore conceded indicated that he did, in fact, win Florida.
The Supreme Court sure as hell did void the election results in Florida.

So the precedent is there for the Supreme Court to get involved.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
22. There is also other precedent for a court overturning an election result due to fraud.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:19 PM
Dec 2016
However, at least one federal court decision suggests there may be some federal case law on the question of whether it is possible to invalidate the outcome of an election after the fact when there is fraud, and replace a candidate benefitted by fraud with his opponent. The case, Marks v. Stinson, is the first and only known case in which a federal judge reversed an election outcome.

In 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to review an appellate court’s decision of Marks v. Stinson, a case originally brought before a federal district judge in Pennsylvania in 1993, which was subsequently appealed to the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in 1994. The Third Circuit partially upheld the federal judge’s decision to intervene and invalidate a 1993 state senate election due to fraud. Interestingly, the federal district judge ordered the winner be removed from office and the subsequent vacancy be filled by his opponent.

The 1993 state senate contest pitted Republican Bruce Marks against Democrat William G. Stinson. Stinson was named the winner, but was later accused of participating in a scheme with elections officials to commit election fraud. Namely, Stinson was accused of conspiring to cast illegally obtained absentee ballots in his favor.

In February 1994, after Stinson had already taken office, the federal judge ordered he “be removed from his State Senate office and that his opponent, Bruce Marks be certified the winner within 72 hours.”


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-interference-could-give-courts-legal-authority_us_584be136e4b0151082221b9c?

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
23. I agree that had the count continued
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:33 PM
Dec 2016

Gore would have won. However, it didn't, so the Supreme Court didn't void the election results.

There is precedent for the Supreme Court to get involved, but there is no precedent for the Supreme Court to nullify a Presidential election.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
44. Actually Gore opted to call for recounting in only 4 counties and independent analysis showed...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:03 PM
Dec 2016

he actually lost in those 4 counties. So if the Supreme Court had let the state court's decision
to recount those 4 counties stand Gore would apparently still have lost.

However the analysis also showed that if the entire state had been recounted Gore apparently would have been the winner.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
16. Only if he declassifies all the Russian info.
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 11:04 PM
Dec 2016

Sorry: he will denounce it, but not reveal what every American needs to know.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
40. Yet Brady still managed to thrash the Ravens this week with surgical precision
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 10:25 AM
Dec 2016

Surprisingly, defeated opponents keep grinding their molars about past-tense invisible air that existed within scientific tolerances and never was never is nevermore. Go figure.


spin

(17,493 posts)
32. And they do that in South America. ...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:41 AM
Dec 2016

That's just fine in banana republics but not in a representative democracy or a constitutional republic.

If Obama declared himself to be President for life there would up an uprising that would split this nation right down the middle.

I seriously doubt the military would support Obama if he tried to do that. It would probably take over the government until a solution could be found. I don't want to see the military running this nation either.

The best hope we have is the Electoral College and if that fails the impeachment of Trump when he steps too far out of line.

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
30. got nothing
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 02:05 AM
Dec 2016

He is just going to do a press conference before leaving the continent maybe remind us to do what our new president elect says because we won the electoral vote

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
31. I'm completely pessimistic about it
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 02:10 AM
Dec 2016

The good puppy press will be too afraid of offending Twittler to ask any hard questions about the Russian hacks. Obama is unlikely to volunteer any new information.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm horribly used to being right.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
33. He can call a state of emergency. That is within his power.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:37 AM
Dec 2016

He can declare that we are now at war with Russia for violating our election laws and hacking our government. Americans love war. They hate being hacked.

Those are presidential powers. He should use them. What is the point of having a commander in chief if he does not defend the country?

forthemiddle

(1,381 posts)
36. Will he call the state of emergency
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:46 AM
Dec 2016

Before or after his Hawaii vacation?

Let's face it, a Friday afternoon press conference, right before he leaves on vacation, is not the time that we are going to get any bombshells.

As a matter of fact, if he had any concerns about the Electoral College, which meets Monday, he wouldn't be going on vacation either.
This time Tuesday it will officially President Elect Trump, and there will be nothing anyone can do about it.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
38. We might review the Constitution
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 10:17 AM
Dec 2016
He can declare that we are now at war with Russia for violating our election laws and hacking our government. Americans love war. They hate being hacked.

Uh, no. Only Congress has the power to declare war.

Those are presidential powers. He should use them. What is the point of having a commander in chief if he does not defend the country?

Nope.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
39. Tomorrow is today
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 10:22 AM
Dec 2016

and yes I think this will be a block buster of a speech, one that every single person in this country should hear.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
41. I'll just set my expectations super low and hope that he exceeds them.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 10:55 AM
Dec 2016

He'll just wish us happy holidays and fly off.

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