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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLittle discussed fact: Siberia and Russia might BENEFIT from worldwide climate warming.
So we have every reason to fight climate change, but Russia might not.
http://www.geocurrents.info/place/russia-ukraine-and-caucasus/siberia/global-warming-and-siberia-blessing-or-curse
GeoCurrents has recently emphasized the forbidding cold of the Siberian winter, stressing the obstacles that such a climate presents for the development of the region. Unmentioned in these posts is the possibility that Siberias climate will significantly change over the coming decades due to global warming. If the predicted warming occurs, could the change prove beneficial for Siberia, and Russia more generally? Many Russians think so. Such optimism, however, might prove unwarranted, as climate change could also generate significant problems for the region.
Regardless of Russias potential gains from global warming, the country has incentives for downplaying the severity of the crisis. The Russian economy rests heavily on the export of fossil fuels, and if climate-change concerns result in a wholesale switch to renewable forms of energyas unlikely as that might beRussia would suffer a major blow. Any major restrictions of carbon dioxide output would also hamper the Russian economy. Although Russias carbon emissions are surpassed by those of China and the United States, they are growing rapidly, and some analysts suspect that Russia could be the top emitter by 2030. Not surprisingly, skeptical reports about climate change often receive prominent coverage in the Russian press. In 2010, Time Magazine quoted a Russian environmentalists who argued that, Broadly speaking, the Russian position has always been that climate change is an invention of the West to try to bring Russia to its knees. Such paranoid views of climatic change as hostile machinations of the West are not uncommonly held by the Russian public. More recently, a Voice of Russia article showcased the position of Nikolay Dobretsov, Chairman of the Earth Science United Academic Council, who contends that a 40-year cycle of cool and warm periods is currently driving the global climatic regime, and that a change to cooler times is imminent. As a result, Dobretsov argues, global warming is a non-issue.
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/for-russia-global-warming-benefits-outweigh-negatives-3407
For Russia, Global Warming Benefits 'Outweigh' Negatives
Global warming in the next 40 years will allow Russian authorities to save on central heating, increase agricultural production and extend sea navigation in the north, a leading Russian climatologist told a Russian-German conference Wednesday.
But authorities will have to fork out money to reconstruct several big Siberian and Far Eastern cities to prevent them from collapsing as a result of a warmer climate, Vladimir Klimenko, head of Laboratory of Global Power Engineering Problems at the Moscow Power Engineering Institute told the conference co-organized by Alexander von Humbolt Foundation.
However, "the reduction of heating alone outweighs all the negative results [of the global warming] by many times," Klimenko said. If the money saved through reducing heating "is spent sensibly, then something can be achieved," he said.
Klimenko based his English-language report on the findings of his laboratory.
Climate was discussed elsewhere Tuesday. The World Meteorological Organization said during the annual UN Climate Change Conference in Cancun, Mexico, that scorching heat waves that killed thousands of people in Europe in 2003 and that choked Russia earlier this year were set to appear like an average summer in the future as the Earth continued to warm.
bdamomma
(63,919 posts)that is why Putin put in his puppet and Tillerson is there. Watch DEMOCRACY NOW i did post it on the video forum if your interested
They don't care about climate change.
Jean-Jacques Roussea
(475 posts)Hekate
(90,779 posts)As the permafrost melts and the vegetation decays, not only do any buildings, roads and bridges fall over, but the CO2 is released. There's some issue with methane as well, but I don't remember the mechanism, just that there were holes in parts of Siberia just outgassing like mad.
Info from within the past decade.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And who knows what's under all that permafrost...??
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)A climate in NY more similar to that of Ocean City, MD would be a good thing. It is certainly better now than in the 1800s when the Hudson River froze solid with ice.
Historically it has been easier to heat with wood, peat, coal, dung, etc. than to cool buildings. This continued until about 1950 with the use of oil and nat gas for heating.
However, now it is more efficient to cool with electricity, and electricity for cooling can be generated from renewable resources as economic sources of fossil fuels are exhausted.
So global warming is an advantage for countries in the temperate zones.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)Very little of the continental US would "benefit" compared to Russia. Yes, there is Alaska, but Russia has far more of the country in the north.
With the predicted levels of global warming, much of the US coastal areas, including NYC, would be hit by flooding.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/science/flooding-of-coast-caused-by-global-warming-has-already-begun.html?_r=0
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)pnwmom
(108,990 posts)Have you paid any attention at all to the issue of flooding caused by climate change? And to how much of US coastal areas would be underwater with the predicted sea level changes?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2016/08/01/ellicott-city-maryland-flood/87914944/
The massive rainfall that caused a devastating flash flood in Ellicott City, Md., last weekend was a rare 1-in-1,000-year event that has been happening with unprecedented frequency in recent years, meteorologists said.
The storm, which killed two people, dumped 6.5 inches of rain on Ellicott City in only about 3 hours, with 5.5 inches falling in just 90 minutes, the National Weather Service said. One nearby spot recorded 8.22 inches, amounts that weather service meteorologist Greg Carbin called "off the charts."
SNIP
This is at least the ninth "1-in-1,000" year rain event across the United States since 2010, and the third this year. Flooding in Houston in April killed eight people. And in June, 23 died in a in West Virginia flood caused by heavy rain.
So many "1-in-1,000 year" rainfalls appear unprecedented. "The number of these type of events has seemingly become more pronounced in recent years," meteorologist Steve Bowen of a global reinsurance firm Aon Benfield said in a tweet Monday.
The world record for a one-minute rainfall happened in Maryland 60 years ago, according to the World Meteorological Organization. On July 4, 1956, 1.23 inches of rain fell in Unionville, Md., in the state's Eastern Shore region.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)mention mosquitoes when it talks about health. Russians are just gonna love them.
Summer visitors to Denali have their horror stories, and the huge skeeter is now the Alaska state bird.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/31/alaskan-mosquito-swarm-video_n_3682619.html