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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSimple question: Are certain CULTURES simply incompatable ?
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Can eastern and western cultures coexist ?
Is it wrong that western cultures demand their culture be respected ? Or
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eShirl
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Solly Mack
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lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)We should've let them secede; we're still fighting the Civil War.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)votes like most of Louisiana.
Amishman
(5,559 posts)There are very few exceptions
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)here and there, the west certainly seemed to believe that their culture could flourish wherever they went.
malaise
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La Lioness Priyanka
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uponit7771
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TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)They can and they do.
shraby
(21,946 posts)My question would be can republicans and Democrats coexist.
left-of-center2012
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Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)If a doting Jewish mother says she want her son to marry a nice Jewish girl, is she being racist, or is she preserving her culture?
If a doting Korean mother says she want her son to marry a nice Korean girl, is she being racist, or is she preserving her culture?
If a doting Mexican mother says she want her son to marry a nice Mexican girl, is she being racist, or is she preserving her culture?
If a doting Native American mother says she want her son to marry a nice Native American girl, is she being racist, or is she preserving her culture?
If a doting white mother says she want her son to marry a nice white girl, is she being racist, or is she preserving her culture?
If a doting black mother says she want her son to marry a nice black girl, is she being racist, or is she preserving her culture?
Pick which point on the slippery slope you want to stop. The be prepared to defend why the previous sentence is not racism, but the following sentence is.
If the Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) fights against Native American children being adopted by or placed in foster care with non-Native American parents, to protect their culture, is that racist? What if there were a "welfare act" that prevented Asian children from being adopted by white parents, to protect their culture? Would that be racist? What if white parents were forbidden to adopt a black child, to protect that child's culture. Would that be racist?
If there were such a thing (God forbid) as a Southern culture of white supremacy, where blacks are to be subjugated, should that cultured be respected? If there were such a thing (Allah forbid) as a culture of Muslim male superiority, where women and non-Muslim are to be subjugated, should that culture be respected? If there were such a thing (Gott bewahre.) as an Aryan culture, where Jews are to be exterminated, should that culture be respected?
Some cultures simply do not deserve to be respected. Period. That's life in the real world. Deal with it.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Some cultures simply do not deserve to be respected..."
And some people pretend to know particular cultures deserve a lack of respect, regardless of your period, your perception of reality, or your deals.
(it can be difficult to differentiate 'culture' and 'society', but you really should try it one day)
JHan
(10,173 posts)Culture refers to shared experiences, shared outlooks, values, customs and morals and those things impact society - whether for good or ill.
How would you treat with exiles from a society with a culture that oppressed them? For example a society where its citizens practice Wahhabist customs and values, and relegates women to second-class status?
We can and should criticize those societies while acknowledging people have a right to self-determination: meaning a woman can choose to be a second-class citizen but that shouldn't stop us pointing out the wrongness of her condition because our own Liberal cultural sensibilities values equality before the law.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)I just can't bring myself to respect racist or misogynist cultures. In fact, I won't even try. My culture of tolerance for others requires that I not respect intolerant cultures, so I won't.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Historically, when two cultures come in contact with each other, either one disappears or both are replaced by a successor with features of both in varying proportions.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You are referencing the historical concept of Acculturation.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)I wasn't thinking of acculturation of individuals or family units embedded in a different culture.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)democrats generally catering to republicans. Democrats need to get a spine, or they might as well just join the republicans. FFS, I'm starting to think the US needs to be split into two regions, somehow. The divides are far too great, and with this last election it's clear we are way over the divide.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Any human problem may be solved with a human solution. Whether we decide to invest the time, energy or will into the solution(s) is the variable.
inanna
(3,547 posts)Welcome to DU....
Warpy
(111,305 posts)Certainly some cultures experience a little more friction than others, but compatibility depends on individuals within them and how they approach the whole thing. Some people are rigid and dismiss the other culture as a race of barbarians. Others are able to take a step back and investigate those differences and where they came from.
I was a nurse in a major port of entry. I never found a culture so spiky and impenetrable that there was no common ground anywhere. It's always there if you look for it and that's the key to building compatibility.
MineralMan
(146,320 posts)It's a simple enough equation.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)This has been repeated throughout history.
True Dough
(17,313 posts)we have the Quebecois, descendants of the French. We are officially a bilingual country to accommodate their language rights and those of English-speaking Canadians. Many concessions have been made to assuage residents of Quebec. It's been a challenging and sometimes rocky road with multiple threats of secession, but we are still a single country to this day. I think we're better for it.
And then there's the many other ethnicities that exist in Canada. One in five Canadians is foreign-born I love that about our nation.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Doubt a Clan member will be dating a Muslim woman any time soon though....
haele
(12,663 posts)- and cultures include offshoots - sects - which have their own practices and beliefs that are sometimes only comparable by the name the sectarians choose to label themselves with. It's also why you often have incompatible laws or moral structures within the same culture.
The above is why some of the most horrendous acts people do to each other are against their "own". A single leader can embody the culture at that time, or can embody a sect, claiming to represent that culture.
Looking at "culture" from a broad overview - including a historical overview, the fact is that on their faces Eastern and Western cultures are overall compatible. Both cultures include both a democratic and a hierarchal factor.
A feudal or tribal ruler is just as responsible for the wellbeing of those under him or her as an elected official in a democratic society is. Religions provide both "hope" and "guilt" no matter what side of the Black or Caspian Sea they are practiced in.
There is little in the overall writings and tenets that are different.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is universal.
Look at the Abrahamic religions - they are all the same. Levitican Law is the same a Sharia Law. The only difference between the Torah and the Bible and Koran is the addition of tribal stories and laws as time went on.
It's the sects and personalities that cause all the trouble, that create the differences. So long as we bunch up into little tribes based on groups of any number of arbitrary constructs (tribe/family, religion, education, race, language, resources), looking some "Other" as being responsible for problems of our own group's making, there will be conflicts and incompatibility.
On edit - looking at the post above; individuals will always do what they feel they need to do, and many of the most strident "culture warriors" find some way to justify why it's okay for them to act different than their particular cultural/belief systems, but not for anyone else that belong to what they've claimed is "their culture".
I know of virulent tribalists who have married members of a minority or someone else who is diametrically opposed to them in a cultural sense, because "that one is different". They still haven't changed their willingly dumb-F*** ignorant tribal hatred when dealing with anyone else not in their culture, but with the wife/husband, they're all respectful and lovey-dovey.
Haele
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I'm not talking about a gun or two at home for hunting, farm work, or HOME protection.
