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greenman3610

(3,947 posts)
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 11:42 PM Dec 2016

Hillary asking for volunteers in Wisconsin

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/hillary-clinton-strikes-back-wisconsin-recount/291/

In hindsight, perhaps none of this should have come as a surprise. If Hillary Clinton had begun crying foul on election night, before she had any evidence of what many of instinctively knew could not be legitimate vote totals in states such as Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, the people in the middle would have laughed her off the stage. Major media outlets would have branded her a sore loser. And even if she had later been able to produce proof that the election was stolen from her, it would have been difficult to reverse the public sentiment that she didn’t like that she lost.

So instead she stepped back and allowed public sentiment to come to her. It’s allowed her to initially take the position of only getting on board with the recounts because they were happening anyway and she wanted to make sure they were fair. It set up Donald Trump to be the first one to cry foul, as he reacted immaturely to the recount effort, making him the one who now appears unreasonable in the eyes of those in the middle.

Two days ago, Hillary Clinton’s campaign took what seemed to be the first salvo in pushing back against Donald Trump’s recount tantrum, as her Deputy Communications Director lashed out at him as being “small and sad” for pushing so much dishonest propaganda. And now Hillary is asking her own supporters to sign up directly with her to help with the Wisconsin recount, no longer even bothering to steer them through Jill Stein. Because Hillary played it cool in the beginning and allowed the evidence and sentiment to build, she can be aggressive now without anyone being able to accuse her of simply not liking the result.
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Hillary asking for volunteers in Wisconsin (Original Post) greenman3610 Dec 2016 OP
I've Seen This Script Before SoCalMusicLover Dec 2016 #1
I recall some on DU saying in early voting (b4 DU was hacked) that their votes were turning to Trump C Moon Dec 2016 #25
Curious now what evidence there is? Exit polls pick trump, computer scientist said 'hack unlikley' jmg257 Dec 2016 #2
Hillary won this election by 2.5 MILLION votes!!! Abouttime Dec 2016 #11
She did?!? Sweet! But she won Wi, MI and PA according to whom??? jmg257 Dec 2016 #12
The point of a recount is to see BainsBane Dec 2016 #27
Exit polls pick trump? Really? greatbaldeagle Dec 2016 #21
Welcome to DU - and good post! bhikkhu Dec 2016 #24
Interesting...CNN has it different... jmg257 Dec 2016 #32
If Hill is asking this is important. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #3
I signed up in Michigan. Barack_America Dec 2016 #5
Thank you! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #8
But what is going to happen in Michigan? murielm99 Dec 2016 #18
Judge decides tomorrow womanofthehills Dec 2016 #20
Will Stein get the money back if no recount? rainy Dec 2016 #31
KICK for Hillary! Cha Dec 2016 #4
Cha!!!! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #9
Thanks, she.. Cha Dec 2016 #14
Unrec, clickbait site. n/t demmiblue Dec 2016 #6
REC.. excellent site! Cha Dec 2016 #15
Without Pennsylvania it all seems hopeless. drm604 Dec 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #10
You're really gonna push that meme, aren't you? I look forward to your career at DU. Hekate Dec 2016 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #16
No one in this thread mentioned Bernie. murielm99 Dec 2016 #19
You really have "issues," don't you? Did you vote for Hillary in the GE or are you just potshotting Hekate Dec 2016 #22
Welcome to DU. JudyM Dec 2016 #26
Incidentally, Hillary now has more than 2.5 million votes than Trump. Too bad about the EC... Hekate Dec 2016 #23
But there was Obama on election night, urging Clinton to concede. milestogo Dec 2016 #17
He's the President of the United States underthematrix Dec 2016 #29
But he DID get involved. milestogo Dec 2016 #33
say what? underthematrix Dec 2016 #34
Kicking for the faint hope I'm so afraid to have. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #28
I doubt the outcome ellie Dec 2016 #30
 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
1. I've Seen This Script Before
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 11:50 PM
Dec 2016

Went through it in 2000. Again in 2004, to the point I truly believed the voting machines were rigged to Shrub.

So now there's this. We'll see how thorough the recounts are. We'll see whether the slimeballs in charge are able to prevent enough fraud from being discovered, to enable T to still be the winner.

We'll see whether this matters to Hillary or not. And if not, gain some reassurance that at least the vote was legitimate, even if we cannot in any form, accept it.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
2. Curious now what evidence there is? Exit polls pick trump, computer scientist said 'hack unlikley'
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 11:55 PM
Dec 2016

All the "evidence" was based on suspicious results of pre-election polls.

SO what changed?

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
11. Hillary won this election by 2.5 MILLION votes!!!
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:25 AM
Dec 2016

And she won WI MI and PA
We just need to audit and recount, we can win this!!

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
12. She did?!? Sweet! But she won Wi, MI and PA according to whom???
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:27 AM
Dec 2016

What evidence is there the recount will go in her favor?

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
27. The point of a recount is to see
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:49 AM
Dec 2016

If the results are correct. That will be the evidence, one way or another.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
32. Interesting...CNN has it different...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:39 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 2, 2016, 09:15 AM - Edit history (1)

http://www.cnn.com/election/results/states/michigan
http://www.cnn.com/election/results/states/wisconsin
http://www.cnn.com/election/results/states/pennsylvania
http://www.cnn.com/election/results/states/florida
http://www.cnn.com/election/results/states/ohio


Each state has an exit poll by gender in the lower left corner. Where trump is around:

Mich - tie
Wis +1
Pen +1
Fl +2
Ohio +10

Unless I am reading them wrong, the CNN exit polls seem pretty spot on.

murielm99

(30,765 posts)
18. But what is going to happen in Michigan?
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:46 AM
Dec 2016

Trump is trying to stop the recount there. He is trying to run out the clock.

Response to greenman3610 (Original post)

Response to Hekate (Reply #13)

murielm99

(30,765 posts)
19. No one in this thread mentioned Bernie.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:49 AM
Dec 2016

You are the one keeping that shit alive. We are talking recount. WTF is your problem?

Hekate

(90,829 posts)
22. You really have "issues," don't you? Did you vote for Hillary in the GE or are you just potshotting
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:52 AM
Dec 2016

...from the sidelines as a Canadian? Why don't you spit out what you are trying to say.



(JURY: Note this poster's screen name: Canadaexpat2. I am not being mean, I am simply not assuming s/he is a US citizen. I feel it is a relevant question, given the poster's brief history at DU.)

Hekate

(90,829 posts)
23. Incidentally, Hillary now has more than 2.5 million votes than Trump. Too bad about the EC...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:54 AM
Dec 2016

...but the FACT is that more people preferred Hillary.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
17. But there was Obama on election night, urging Clinton to concede.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:37 AM
Dec 2016

He's the top Democrat, for petes sake. He's from Chicago, a city notorious for election fraud. Didn't it ever occur to him that something was amiss on election night?

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
29. He's the President of the United States
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:06 AM
Dec 2016

He can't get involved.

Whether the results are overturned or not, the most important outcome is that everyone knows the election was rigged and he's not the legitimate president.

That's some powerful stuff right there.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
30. I doubt the outcome
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 03:53 AM
Dec 2016

will change. However, any dent that can be made in that asshole's fragile psyche is good enough for me.

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