How is it that Pelosi's age is a stumbling block for her, but Bernie who is also old

[La Lioness Priyanka]

does not get the same push back for his age?

Is there something different about them?

[eShirl]

1. aging while female?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. leading while female

[secondwind]

93. she's damn good at what she knows best...

[Me.]

3. Excellent Question

[bravenak]

4. He is a man so he can do no wrong and is perfect

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. he is a man who can lead till he dies, but the rest of us have a much shorter shelf life. nt

[bravenak]

9. Well, we are corrupt and we use our gender to decide our votes and stuff

Women are just so bad. Nasty even

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. identity politics, which is nasty. although it has resulted in Civil rights act

voting rights act, gay marriage etc.

[bravenak]

15. Focusing on that stuff and helping the oppressed is racist to the important people. White dudes

They are the only group that know how to be fair, knows what to focus on, and if we don't do what they say we deserve what we get. Intelligent women do as we are told and blacks should be smart and not cause a ruckus that might upset white men. And gay people have it so so so so so good that we needn't even worry about the fact tha trans people are being murdered in the streets. We need to focus on what is important. 80 year old white guys shoukd be who we try to pander to to get votes. Everybody get back in yr closets, kitchens and places!

[mercuryblues]

26. bravo

I had a trump voter tell me I needed to learn how to respect people. My reply......Is respecting someone like grabbing them by the *P*, calling women pigs, cows, nasty, bleeding outta their wherever, etc.? If that is your definition of respect, then I am being nice to you when I call you a f'n idiot.

[bravenak]

31. They have no clue what respect is

But they will learn about choices soon enough. Cant wait until, trump breaks them and has them protesting him themselves. Him and his stupid ass victory rally, i hope nobody shows up

[bdamomma]

47. all friggin white supremacists are going to be there

with their tattoos and confederate flags. Wait until Mr. tRump takes their guns away. That will be interesting one of their own taking away their guns or may be not he is bed with the NRA.

[bravenak]

48. I hope they turn on his ass with the quickness

[George II]

73. And calling people "Pocahontas", "lying", "crooked", etc.

[Txbluedog]

5. To me her age and gender have nothing to do with it

I just feel we need fresh, new leadership. And yes, before someone questions it, Bernie is yesterday's news too.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. Tim Ryan is a mediocre back bencher who is anti choice

if that is fresh, i don't want it.

[Txbluedog]

10. Actually I also prefer Pelosi between the two

but I'm sure there are other people qualified to be minority leader besides the two that ran

[La Lioness Priyanka]

11. i said this here before, if we found a better person than pelosi, i would be open to it

but i was not open to Ryan and neither thankfully were most democrats

[Hekate]

107. They why did they not run?

[Txbluedog]

115. Because Pelosi was running

[Hekate]

8. Like Hillary, she lacks that certain je ne sais quoi....

Je ne sais quoi is what I am now calling the political penis, in case that has not been obvious.

Fortunately Democratic House members see the experience, the intelligence, the leadership capabilities that Nancy Pelosi has. A majority of US voters saw the same thing in Hillary -- what is it, 2.5 million ahead of Trump now? Just too bad the EC disproportionately favors states with low-information voters.

[Txbluedog]

19. Dissapointed in your post

Fortunately Democratic House members see the experience, the intelligence, the leadership capabilities that Nancy Pelosi has. A majority of US voters saw the same thing in Hillary -- what is it, 2.5 million ahead of Trump now? Just too bad the EC disproportionately favors states with low-information voters.

Brava! We're really going to win elections with that attitude. The electoral college did it's job, which is to provide a voice for all states in the Union. If it went against us, we need to try and address why not blame the electoral college for doing what the founding fathers intended for it to do

[niyad]

36. the job of the ec was to protect the landed class.

[Hekate]

45. Considering the EC just gave us a genuine gold-plated fascist, what we need is a Constitutional ....

....amendment.

The Constitution was designed to grow with the times. The founding fathers gave us slavery. An amendment abolished it. The Constitution failed to mention women's rights -- an amendment gave us the vote. Need I go on?

It's time to join the other democracies of the world and have direct votesfor our presidents.

[yeoman6987]

67. A constitutional convention may happen

Unfortunately it will be the GOP if they get a few more statehouses. That is frightening.

[Txbluedog]

74. That is a frightening prospect

They'll add their definition of marriage, women's rights etc to the constitution and the Supreme Court interprets the constitution. They have no leeway if something is spelled out black and white

[C Moon]

92. They have a system of cheating right now, so I fear they could make more gains...

until the system of cheating is derailed.

[Txbluedog]

70. The EC has always elected the President since our country was founded

and it will do so this year. If you are saying reform is needed, I agree with you. However, we cannot blame the electoral college for the outcome. Everyone knew going in how we elect Presidents in this country.

[George II]

77. And I yours.

[Txbluedog]

79. it would have been nice if you could have elaborated

[mopinko]

134. so you are cool w election that arent one man-one vote then?

the ec has never done its stated purpose of being a last check on the fairness of the election system. we would have had president gore and they would have stood up in 04 to the shenanigans in ohio.
but it doesnt do it's job in that dept. and if they dont reject cheeto, they will never serve the purpose of making sure a mad man never holds the keys to our white house.

it has served it's purpose. it is time for the playing field to be leveled.

[Txbluedog]

135. I never said I was cool with it

But I understand why it was put in place and I understand that it is doing what it was intended to do (give a voice to less populated states in a presidential election). It cannot take into account shenanigans on a state level and we should not blame the electoral college for these.

[mopinko]

136. you are unclear on the this, then.

giving a voice=giving them more than 1 vote. not really acceptable.

and i dont blame the electors for the shenanigans, just for not catching them, and doing their jobs.

[niyad]

35. the political penis--LOVE it!! or, as some of us refer to it--the engorged clitoris

[mcar]

106. Well said!

Je ne sais quoi indeed.

[lunamagica]

12. Isn't it obvous why? And this prejudice stands despite the fact that

Oh average, woman live longer that men, remain healthy longer, etc

But you know, after the kick on the face this month, nothing surprises me, and I expect the worst from people

[melman]

14. Did she lose her job or something?

No? The opposite happened?

Oh. Okay. Just more made up bullshit.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. of course she didn't lose her job, i was addressing people on DU

who seem to be having conniption fits about her age.

[LiberalLovinLug]

90. Regardless that there are no links to these people on DU that are having a conniption about age

I'll believe you. Because its is a point, whether its a valid one is open for debate.

But damn I'm getting sick of these eager to bash Bernie or his supporters with straw man arguments. That your argument is not to point out how she is NOT too old, it is to proclaim that Bernie's supporters should also declare Bernie as too old as well. Always going negative.

I had enough of that from the MSM, with Drumph spokespersons deflecting every accusation with...but but but Hillary is just as bad...even worse!!!

Can't we be above that kind of childishness? Bernie supporters felt kicked in the gut after the California primaries...we all felt a bigger kick on Nov. 8th. Long time Hillary supporters and the majority of Bernie supporters that joined up with her.

Stop inventing reasons to bash fellow DUers. We all have to work together now to defeat this scourge.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

103. linking posts on DU goes against DU rules for personal call outs.

i am pretty sure you know that.

[ronnie624]

129. Pure fabrication. n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

130. Lol

[LiberalLovinLug]

137. that's it?

That's your response to my post?

I guess you couldn't find any spelling mistakes.

[JHan]

16. Yes, if the attack on her is ageist..

It's because she don't have no dick

Dick is everything people.

[Quayblue]

99. ...

😂😂😂

[randome]

17. I think they both should go.

Sanders' wishful thinking that manufacturing jobs can magically come back show that he's out of touch, too.

It may not be fair but I don't really care anymore, I want all the septuagenarians to step aside where feasible (meaning where we have a shot at replacing him/her with another Democrat).
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[Hekate]

109. "It may not be fair but I don't really care anymore" is the kind of thinking that got us Trump.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[randome]

113. Except the end game of Trump supporters is to benefit themselves.

Democrats think about the greater good. I'm a straight white male and I sure as hell recognize the privileges I have. Trump supporters can't do that because they're greedy and they're scared.
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[Act_of_Reparation]

18. Yes, there is something different about them.

Bernie is perceived as an outsider, Pelosi is perceived as establishment. In that regard, Bernie is perceived by the young as being more relatable and more attune to the issues that affect them. Right or wrong, generational distrust is nothing new.

[randome]

20. The 'youth' didn't come out in the numbers he needed.

Obama inspired the Millennials. Sanders not so much.
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[Act_of_Reparation]

21. When last I checked, Sanders did not run in the GE.

[randome]

22. You're right. He couldn't get out of the starting gate (i.e. the Primary).

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[Act_of_Reparation]

28. Perceptive.

Any chance you'll be able to connect this to the OP in the next two or three posts? I'm a busy guy.

[randome]

38. Already did. I want Pelosi, Sanders, Schumer, all the other septuagenarians to step aside.

Sanders and Pelosi are equally ineffectual in my book. If they haven't managed to secure the victories we need, time and time again, then they need to stand down.

For the good of the team.
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[Act_of_Reparation]

39. Fair enough.

But I wasn't arguing that Sanders was a successful candidate or should be floated around a second time. I was simply trying to explain how he made more headway with younger voters than other politicians of his age group.

[TheCowsCameHome]

24. ...unfortunately.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. a man who has been part of the political establishment for over 2 decades is now an outsider

maybe 18 year olds believe that, but most of the rest of us don't.

[Cha]

29. Teach it, La Lioness!

[Act_of_Reparation]

30. Could be that's why I used the word "perceived"

[LanternWaste]

57. Commercial branding is indeed, a critical element for the lazy mind

Commercial branding is indeed, a critical element for the lazy mind to predicate a conclusion on.

[progressoid]

118. But, as is routinely pointed out here, he's not a Democrat.

That makes him an outsider. At least from a party machine standpoint.

[Hekate]

53. "Perceptions" as opposed to facts will be the death of us.Sanders has been around Washington forever

He is hardly a fresh face. He is hardly an outsider.

[Act_of_Reparation]

95. The perception had more to do with his distance from the Democratic political apparatus...

...than his years of service, or at least that's how it seemed to me.

[AirmensMom]

27. She needs surgery ...

called addadicktome.

[fleabiscuit]

33. I see what you did there.

[AirmensMom]

42. Used to be the standard requirement at work.

You know ... the companies that pay lip service to equal pay but make it a condition of employment that you can't compare with each other. But we knew. And it had nothing to do with quality of work. So we frequently used that term.

[bdamomma]

50. .......

[TonyCapo]

32. K&R

[hughee99]

34. It's probably because Sanders primary opponent was roughly the same age, and

Pelosi's leadership opponent was considerably younger. If people think age difference can be used to their political advantage, they'll use it, if they don't they'll just keep quite about it. If Clinton were in her 40's, you surely would have heard a lot more discussion about Sanders' age and if Tim Ryan were in his 70's you would have heard no discussion about Pelosi's.

By the way, a majority voters in the primary DIDN'T vote Sanders, but a majority of the house dems DID vote for Pelosi, so it would appear that this "push back" didn't have any significant effect.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

37. yes, i am glad the push back did not have any effect

that being said i am questioning any push back at all based on age, esp from those who supported another person of the same age to lead the country.

[hughee99]

43. I think it's just a tactic that's used to try to make a candidate look better.

Some people are willing to use it when it's convenient and ignore it when it's not, which is why you see the hypocrisy, and there definitely is some hypocrisy here. I think it's certainly a questionable thing to do (to argue something you don't really believe just because it helps your agenda at the moment), I'm just not sure its specific to race or gender.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

44. multiple academic studies show that perceptions of age are gender specific

so i wouldn't rule out the gender bias that easily

[hughee99]

82. Fair enough. I certainly wouldn't rule out gender bias as a factor,

but I think you would have seen this (perhaps to a lesser extent, and maybe that's where they bias comes into play, with the numbers of people pushing this argument) if both were white men.

[msongs]

40. bernie represents the age group with the lowest voter turnout. nt

[pscot]

41. On Pelosi's watch

we've lost the House, the Senate, the Presidency, a majority of state legislatures and governorships. The party leadership is a closed shop and we have no bench strength. If the Democratic party were a sports team she would have been fired after 2012. There's no accountability for failure, which in itself is a prescription for continued failure. Making this about age and/or sex is a deflection from the real issue; a decade long losing streak. Howard Dean was responsible for the only discernible attempt at party building not associated with a presidential campaign in the last 25 years and he was churlishly kicked to the curb. It baffles me that anyone thinks the person who led us into this morass is just who we need to get us out.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

46. what you are criticizing pelosi for is not her job. her job is to keep democrats in line

and represent democratic policies in the house. the job you are thinking about is the DNC head and those of local democratic chapters.

paul ryan didn't get trump elected, the ground work was done by Reince Preibus and the RNC.

[randome]

52. Pelosi is a figurehead. She is wrongly cast by the GOP as all that is evil with the DNC.

So was Clinton. And now we see the result of that.

It isn't fair that Clinton or Pelosi have that image. But it's reality. One way to deal with it is to elect younger, more dynamic individuals a-la Obama.
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[La Lioness Priyanka]

54. sure if these individuals stepped up (or exist). ryan is not obama like in any regard

he lacks the charm, the policy agenda, and is incredibly mediocre in every aspect

all he has is relative youth

[randome]

62. Agree that Ryan has nothing but a youngish cast to his puppy dog eyes.

But Pelosi the 'demon' will never pull in Millennials the way Obama did. And that's what we need. We need to get out of our 'comfortable chairs' and find more Obamas.

Maybe the Obamas (both Barack and Michelle) can help us do that. Surely they are aware of the importance of Millennial support and how we seem to have trouble getting it and holding it.
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[La Lioness Priyanka]

63. pelosi is only a demon to older conservative white people, she is not a demon to young democrats. nt

[randome]

76. That doesn't matter. She is cast as representative of the DNC.

That has subtle ripple effects toward other candidates, leading to complaisance. We need to make bold statements and big splashes. One way to do that is to present fresh faces to the electorate.

It isn't fair, as I've said. But it's necessary, imo.
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[La Lioness Priyanka]

87. or maybe they have to see her in action. nt

[randome]

91. Whatever she's doing or not doing, it does not appear to be helping.

If she wants to energize the electorate, she needs to make bold steps that make Millennials want to support her with everything they have. Anyone who is not contributing to that 'electrification' needs to stand aside.

I am the last person to advocate for wholesale change by disregarding the good that our current representatives have done.

But these are desperate times. If someone like me, who has always trumpeted precision in our actions, thinks there is a need for a makeover of the DNC, I think that says a lot. This isn't some midlife crisis on my part, it's an acknowledgement that what we've tried before will continue to fail us in the future.

The evidence is there and to refuse to see it is to refute reality. IMO.
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[JI7]

127. THIS EXACTLY

what many are claiming to be concerns of young people are more concerns of white conservatives.

First off young people always vote in low numbers. Even obama who did better than most still got a very small number to vote compared to other groups.

The reason they don't vote is not because of issues with candidates as much as just having other interests besides politics.

This of course changes as people get older and experience life .

I don't think young people will care who is speaker.

[Hekate]

110. The word you are looking for is "scapegoat." "Figureheads" are only there for the look of it....

Both Pelosi and Clinton are exceptionally qualified and hardworking women, Democrats to the core. They are not anybody's figurehead on the prow of a ship.

Scapegoats, on the other hand, are blamed for the sins and faults of a group and are driven out with stones, often killed as a symbolic gesture of eliminating the sin from the community.

Pelosi is still in Congress, her position having been reaffirmed by a vote of both her constituents and her caucus.

Hillary Clinton has finally suffered the fate of the scapegoat, after surviving smears and lies from the Right all these decades. Her political career is kaput, over, finished, dead. And now she is to be driven out of the Democratic community to "die in the wilderness" by people who should know better?

Give me a fucking break.

[randome]

112. Pelosi and Clinton are everything you said they are. And they are not what's needed.

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[pscot]

59. My comment was not about this election

but rather about the state of the Democratic Party. Like it or not, for many people Nancy Pelosi is the face of the Democratic party. She figures prominently in the decision making processes that shape the nature and direction of the Party. Nothing happens at the DNC or the DCCC without her input. I think she's failed and should be replaced.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

61. the head of the DNC is appointed by Obama, as he is the functional head of the democratic party

while in office. so no, this is not on Pelosi.

[brooklynite]

49. Bernie's not a leader...

He may inspire people with his ideas, but he's never taken on a leadership role to implement them.

[bdamomma]

51. oh I see a gender war brewing

it should be interesting in the House they have some new Congresswoman there.

[vi5]

55. Is Bernie up for House Minority leader?

Did not know that.

I guess I really do need that civics lesson, huh?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

56. no, but some of the same people who were fine at voting for a 75 year old for president

seem to be aghast at a 76 year old taking a far less important job.

[vi5]

58. Wait, we got to vote for House Minority leader?

Again, you learn the damndest things. I guess I really should have paid more attention in civics class.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

60. did i say anything about voting? you seem to be very confused.

there are ways to express oneself without voting, like for instance commenting on social media and on blogs about how old nancy pelosi is.

[vi5]

117. Wow, yeah I must be confused...

You are comparing two people with completely different jobs in two completely different governmental bodies in two different settings and situations.

Or maybe it's that you want to take another opportunity to bitch about Bernie supporters.

I hope you didn't pull a muscle, reaching like that.

[SpankMe]

64. Because Bernie is transformational and disruptive while Pelosi is slow-going establishment.

They're both good. But, Bernie's message and energy are on the same level as Millennials and young voters.

Nancy is the staid, old Democratic image who is acting her age.

The Democratic leadership nation-wide is old, while the Republicans are packing the Supreme Court with 40-somehtings and younger R's are getting into the House.

Dems need a dose of youthfulness to get us into the next phase of the country's development. The sooner the better.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

66. how exactly is nancy staid or acting her age? what is your evidence for this?

[pnwmom]

69. Utter nonsense. Check her voting record. Pelosi is one of the most liberal

in Congress.

ontheissues.org

But as the House Leader, guess what? She has to deal with HUNDREDS of other people, almost all of whom are less liberal.

We need someone SKILLED to maneuver us through the minefields ahead. Not some newbie who gets extra points with the fans just for being younger and male.

[leftyladyfrommo]

71. Bernie isn't a democrat. nt

[otohara]

114. If Nancy Proposed Free Stuff

would that be transformational enough for them? (white millennials)

Cuz it didn't work when Hillary took up Sanders transformational ideas - was it her age or gender?

I think it was white privilege.

[lumberjack_jeff]

65. I would think her 35 million net worth would be a bigger liability. n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

68. sure. that at least has some legitimacy. but that is not the argument i have seen at all. nt

[Txbluedog]

75. Yes

She is the poorest of the poor as far as the incoming cabinet is concerned

[George II]

72. Without reading any of the other responses....

1. She's a WOMAN, which is frowned upon by many here.
2. She's a DEMOCRAT, which is also frowned upon by many here.

You could throw in that she's introduced , not merely piggy-backing by "co sponsoring" it, legislation that has actually been passed by Congress.

[Tiggeroshii]

78. They are both old. They are also both equally capable.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

83. sure. i think Bernie could easily do the job of the president and she can do her job as minority

leader. in that we agree that they are more than capable.

[Tiggeroshii]

88. Easily.

[HassleCat]

80. Not her age

Maybe her length of service? Some people think she has been there for too long, and somebody else should take over. Seems to me it's old vs. new, not old vs. young.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

81. and sanders has a long legacy of service too. yet i's an advantage for him, not her. nt

[moosewhisperer]

84. just imagine

Just imagine if she were yelling at people while wearing a suit that looks like she slept in it.

[pansypoo53219]

85. more of the fact she is a RALLYING NAME to the RITE wing conspiracy fux/ditto heads.

i HEARD it from my dental hygienist. its the sam claptrap on hillary. sure, WE know its bullshit, but the rite is convinced. she is tarred & feathered.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

89. absolutely, but the right will not vote for democrats anyway. so why indulge them.

[Buzz Clik]

86. Okay, getting past the obvious hypocrisy in treating the two differently....

... no. They aren't that different other than the old "you're with us or against us" and under the bus she goes.

[elmac]

94. Well, they, not me, just elected a president

who thinks pussy grabbing should be legal in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia. A country where you must give up the rights to your body to the state when you are pregnant. A country where you can be thrown in prison for decades for having an illegal abortion or miscarriage. We are now the Misogynist States of ameriKa.

[Maru Kitteh]

111. "We are now the Misogynist States of ameriKa." Indeed. nt

[okieinpain]

96. age isn't the problem with pelosi, she's not doing

shiY is the problem. big mistake re-electing her again.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

97. what do you think she should be doing? i find that most people criticizing her expect her to do the

job of the DNC and the DCCC.

[okieinpain]

98. so what has she done, because it's kinda hard to

prove she hasn't done anything, when she hasn't done anything. i don't hate her i just think it's time for a change, new ideas, something, anything.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

100. she helped pass obamacare, which was a huge uphill battle because she had to convince

a lot of democrats who knew they would lose their seats if this passed. she passed the bill that rescued the car industry, passed Dodd Frank, and repeal of DADT.

when she majority leader, Congress was heralded as “one of the most productive Congresses in history”

A minority leaders role in this administration will be to try and stop legislation. That is all she can or anyone else can do. It will take knowledge of rules and the ability to hold the caucus together.

[Hekate]

101. Isn't it amazing that so many Democrats "know" our leaders have "done nothing"...

Apparently they are waiting for CNN or MSNBC to actually report the news, or maybe a hand-delivered giant letter from Publishers Clearinghouse.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

102. it seems that they all want to take their anger out on people not responsible

for this election at all.

[Hekate]

104. Right. Because they "know" what ain't so

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
~~Mark Twain

[mcar]

105. Makes you wonder, no?

[Maru Kitteh]

108. White dangly bits between the legs fix everything.

I'm surprised you didn't know this.

[Vinca]

116. It's not age, it's duration. Give someone else a chance every decade or so.

Over the past 8 years she's raised a boatload of money, but lost a whole lot of seats. Money doesn't equal votes.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

119. You're blaming her for stuff that is not her job

[Vinca]

121. I don't think anyone deserves a position for life. It's not a regime, it's a party.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

128. She was voted in to office.

[Hamlette]

120. while male privilege

I've been seeing it all my life. I work for a government agency. Men never get fired, just transferred. Women, get shit canned, often for just standing up to the boss when he does something stupid.

Drives me nuts.

Glad to see it got noticed.

[lostnfound]

122. Leadership in a group should develop successors

She can add more value providing advice and coaching to the NEXT leader than continuing to do what she has been doing for so many years.

Time to give the next generation a turn at the reins.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

124. This is literally the worst time for inexperienced leaders

[lostnfound]

131. If she hasn't grown a suitable successor in 12 years, she's failed.

Mentoring is part of any leadership position.

[elmac]

125. Would prefer someone younger, smarter, less feminine that doesn't need to be told how to do things

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[awoke_in_2003]

126. Her age doesn't bother me

Her history of lack of leadership (for instance "impeachment is off the table&quot does. Same goes for Schumer in the senate

[Gothmog]

132. I also do not understand this

[Fresh_Start]

133. To be perfectly honest, Pelosi has been working hard (for a politician for years)

whereas other than the last 18 months, bernie has been keeping his powder dry