Can "stuck-up" be construed as "uppity"?

[Baitball Blogger]

Discuss.

[FarCenter]

1. No

[bravenak]

2. Absolutely. Arrogant too

[JHan]

3. It's possible yes...

I've been called an uppity black woman - yes that exact phrase.

So maybe I am stuck up. If so #NoRegrets

[bravenak]

5. Me too

Been called that a grip

[pangaia]

9. I have three middle-aged female friends whom one might call 'uppity.'

Well, one is older than middle aged, I guess...

Whatever uppity really means, but --yeah, that description might work. Two are white and one is black, if that matters. They are not 'stuck up,' as I remember the phrase from high school. :&gt )

I also love their uppityness, if that is a word. They take no nonsense. Are perfectionists in many things. And all three can laugh at something, including themselves, in a split second.

That's all I know..

[JHan]

11. You gotta own uppityness tho..

The shocking thing was I got told that by some dude in his 70's.. I'm in my 20's.. it was a throw back..a WTF moment. So I'll own this shit

And I was just being polite at the time!

[JI7]

4. uppity is a term for minorities and women who "don't stay in their place"

I can see someone use stuck up but what they really mran is uppity.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. I'm thinking they can use the two terms interchangeably too.

People who may not see themselves as racists react based on their limited perceptions. But, using the term, "uppity," definitely defines them as a racist when they apply the term to a member of a minority group, based on the Urban dictionary: "Taking liberties or assuming airs beyond one's place in a social heirarchy. Assuming equality with someone higher up the social ladder." I would have stated it differently.

But, I think "uppity" would be launched at a member of a minority group who is asserting their rights for equal treatment. And "stuck-up" might be launched at a member of a minority group who refuses to accept less, but will not mingle with a social order that is inherently unfair.

In that context, I think both can be seen as racist terms.

stuck-up
adjectiveinformal
adjective: stuck-up

staying aloof from others because one thinks one is superior.

Uppity

up·pi·ty
ˈəpətē/
adjectiveinformal
adjective: uppity

self-important; arrogant.

and

[JI7]

16. it doesn't really matter what term thst use. we know what they mean

Depending on the situation.

Usually there is an "how dare they" bitter resentful tone to it.

If the complaint is that the person did not say hi back then it's understandable why they would think they are stuck up.

But if it's that the person defended themselves or corrected someone and they call it stuck up what they really mean is uppity.

[Grey Lemercier]

6. stush, sadity, bougie, high pon hill, highfalutant

All these are almost always applied to us PoC to try and knock us back to our "proper place", and so often by fellow PoC. Uppity deffo fits in there.

[JHan]

7. "Stush" "high pon hill"

also ..."She feel she dey"

[Grey Lemercier]

10. you must be a fellow West Indian (Im a halfie Bajan)

[JHan]

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[aikoaiko]

21. Can you explain the idioms to me?

thanks

[Nay]

8. No. Being stuck up means you think you are better than everyone else. Uppity means

you think you are just as good as someone else, and that person thinks you are a second-class citizen who should go back to your lower place in the pecking order.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. Yes, but, one of the major components of being stuck-up is their tendency to be aloof.

A member of a minority group may choose to cope with an unfair society by remaining aloof, and in that context, I think "stuck-up" is a term that is racist.

[Nay]

14. To me, you can be stuck up but not uppity, and you can be uppity but not stuck up.

And to me "aloof" may be one of the descriptors of a stuck up person, but not necessarily. Not all stuck up people are aloof. Not all aloof people are stuck up -- some are shy or introverted. And to me, an uppity person is rarely aloof and never shy or introverted. So I don't see that "stuck up" and "uppity" even have the same definition.

"Stuck up" can and is applied to anyone willy-nilly regardless of race, so I fail to see it as ever being racist, really. Now, it is easier to see "uppity" as a racist word because it is usually applied to a POC by a white person who thinks the POC is overstepping his bounds and not staying pigeonholed is the lower place the white person relegates POCs to. A POC overstepping his bounds is NEVER aloof, is he? He's pushing the envelope with the white person, which is why the white person is applying the word "uppity." Aloofness doesn't ever fit in this situation.

Of course, black people may use these words entirely differently. I'm an old white lady who is an English nerd and a huge reader, for whatever that's worth.

[Baitball Blogger]

15. Enjoyed reading you pov.

Thank you.

[Iggo]

18. No.