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If a person knowingly votes for someone who is a racist, an anti-semite, a xenophobe, a misognynist, et cetera deplorable regardless of all other considerations?
shraby
(21,946 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)are better than Hillary who is not any of those things.
We can't call it deplorable so we'll have to rationalise it all. #WhoBeTheSnowflakesNow
Solly Mack
(90,780 posts)ignorance - and no amount of rationalizing can or will change that.
If they voted for Trump hoping that if things get bad enough people will want change? I submit anyone thinking that has sadly underestimated the human capacity to adapt to even the most oppressive of systems. It has taken wars to change such conditions and anyone thinking another civl war is what America needs is someone who thinks they won't die in the process. Stupid thinking.
Burning the village down doesn't save it. Never has, never will.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)but civil war it will be, I fear. I hope americans aren't that divided and hateful, again. Well realistically we always have been given the race and class system of america. Never been so apparent though. Trumpfuhrer brought it out, big time.
JI7
(89,262 posts)Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)At the least it makes that voter an enabler. And the enabling is nearly as bad as the above described beliefs.
Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)If you'd like to have a more sympathetic understanding of 60 million of our fellow Americans, I suggest this article:
http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/
4 paragraph quote, much more at link:
I stick to my thesis from October 2015. There is no evidence that Donald Trump is more racist than any past Republican candidate (or any other 70 year old white guy, for that matter). All this stuff about how hes the candidate of the KKK and the vanguard of a new white supremacist movement is made up. Its a catastrophic distraction from the dozens of other undeniable problems with Trump that could have convinced voters to abandon him. That it came to dominate the election cycle should be considered a horrifying indictment of our political discourse, in the same way that it would be a horrifying indictment of our political discourse if the entire Republican campaign had been based around the theory that Hillary Clinton was a secret Satanist. Yes, calling Romney a racist was crying wolf. But you are still crying wolf.
I avoided pushing this point any more since last October because I didnt want to look like I was supporting Trump, or accidentally convince anyone else to support Trump. I think Trumps election is a disaster. He has no plan, hes dangerously trigger-happy, and his unilateralism threatens aid to developing countries, one of the most effective ways we currently help other people. I thought and still think a Trump presidency will be a disaster.
But since were past the point where we can prevent it, I want to present my case.
I realize that all of this is going to make me sound like a crazy person and put me completely at odds with every respectable thinker in the media, but luckily, being a crazy person at odds with every respectable thinker in the media has been a pretty good ticket to predictive accuracy lately, so whatever.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)They are going to have a parade.
"Members of the self-declared "alt-right" have exulted over the Nov. 8 win with public cries of "Hail Trump!" and reprises of the Nazi salute. The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) plans to mark Trump's victory with a parade next month in North Carolina. Civil rights advocates have recoiled, citing an uptick in harassment and incidents of hate crimes affecting African-Americans, Jewish-Americans, Muslims, Latinos, gays, lesbians and other minority groups since the vote."
http://www.sltrib.com/home/4638776-155/story.html
Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Doesn't mean that everyone who voted for Obama was a black nationalist.
I sincerely urge people to take a look at the link I provided.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)would mostly all be in jail, unlike most white nationalists who have infiltrated the US Government at the highest levels.