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my gut says another war is on the horizon... (Original Post) djsunyc Nov 2016 OP
Worry about north korea first. n/t GP6971 Nov 2016 #1
Yep, I can see that ratcheting up, mine is bigger than yours ... RKP5637 Nov 2016 #4
North Korea is slinging Missiles into the Pacific Ocean yuiyoshida Nov 2016 #7
ya think? n/t Liberal In Texas Nov 2016 #2
ISIS is in shambles right now. We should fear Russia invading its European neighbors to the west. LonePirate Nov 2016 #3
How would sending US troops to defend Estonia go over? oberliner Nov 2016 #6
So you're in favor of dissolving NATO? LonePirate Nov 2016 #9
Huh? oberliner Nov 2016 #10
Try thinking about the reason we would have to send troops there in the first place. LonePirate Nov 2016 #11
My comment was in relation to how sending US troops to defend Estonia would go over oberliner Nov 2016 #12
Why do you think we would send them there in first place? LonePirate Nov 2016 #13
To defend them from Russian aggression oberliner Nov 2016 #14
What if he invades Poland? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #19
I am not arguing that point oberliner Nov 2016 #20
I don't know about Estonia but I suspect America wouldn't abandon Poland. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #21
I don't think the US would abandon its allies oberliner Nov 2016 #22
Are you kidding me? lark Nov 2016 #26
You are probably right oberliner Nov 2016 #27
Estonia is a member of NATO, and we're obligated by treaty to defend them from invasion Calista241 Nov 2016 #28
No kidding oberliner Nov 2016 #30
Estonia is a member of NATO. (2004) Hugin Nov 2016 #24
No kidding oberliner Nov 2016 #25
Pence and the "deep state" will be what saves Europe. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #8
Russia never invaded Finland or Austria during the Cold War, neither was a NATO member. FarCenter Nov 2016 #23
Russia invaded Finland during WWII... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #29
The people who work on or near his holdings will be most endangered. rwheeler31 Nov 2016 #5
He is so thin skinned, somebody will insult him on Twitter and that will be all it takes MiniMe Nov 2016 #15
Big Oil Wants Him to Invade Iran. Russia is Big Oil. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #16
Now that would be truly disastrous oberliner Nov 2016 #17
When the body bags start coming home, his supporters will turn on him. alarimer Nov 2016 #18
Not safe to stay at a Trump hotel! Dangerous!! WilliamPlanke Nov 2016 #31

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
7. North Korea is slinging Missiles into the Pacific Ocean
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:14 AM
Nov 2016

And no ISIS can not do that yet, but if NK starts lobbing stuff at South Korea, Japan, and or Hawaii, because of something stupid Trump says or does, we're in for a fucking shitty ride.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
3. ISIS is in shambles right now. We should fear Russia invading its European neighbors to the west.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:05 AM
Nov 2016

Will our Racist-in-Chief heed the NATO treaty and support our allies or will he listen to his puppet master Putin and turn a blind eye to Russian aggression?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Huh?
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:21 AM
Nov 2016

Dissolving NATO?

I was commenting on how the idea of sending of sending US troops to defend Estonia would go over.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. My comment was in relation to how sending US troops to defend Estonia would go over
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:30 AM
Nov 2016

I don't think it would go over well. How do you think it would go over?

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
13. Why do you think we would send them there in first place?
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:32 AM
Nov 2016

It's not because our new Racist-in-Chief wanted to establish a new forward eastern base of operations. It would be due to Russian aggression against the country.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. To defend them from Russian aggression
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:35 AM
Nov 2016

My point is with respect to how the idea of sending US troops to defend Estonia from Russia would go over in the United States. I assert that it would not go over well. What about you?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. I am not arguing that point
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 10:59 AM
Nov 2016

I am asserting that it would not go over well in the US to send American troops to fight Russia in Estonia or elsewhere in the region.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. I don't think the US would abandon its allies
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:12 AM
Nov 2016

I am just saying that the idea of sending American troops to fight against Russian troops in Europe would not go over well. Especially considering the significant loss of life that it would inevitably involve.

lark

(23,102 posts)
26. Are you kidding me?
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:33 AM
Nov 2016

drumpf ran on being nice to Russia, he will not send one person to Europe to defend it from Russias' aggression. I bet he would veto any motion in Congress to send troops. All he wants is more $$ for himself and Russia is the key to enrichment for him. He's a freaking traitor in waiting. Doesn't matter one bit what Russia does, drumpf will sign off on it for his own personal gain.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. You are probably right
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:35 AM
Nov 2016

My point is not really related to Trump at all.

It is that the idea of sending US troops to fight Russia in Estonia (for instance) would not go over well in America (even though we are obligated to do so).

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
28. Estonia is a member of NATO, and we're obligated by treaty to defend them from invasion
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:37 AM
Nov 2016

by a foreign power.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
30. No kidding
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:38 AM
Nov 2016

My point is that the idea of sending US troops to fight Russia in Estonia (for instance) would not go over well in America (even though we are obligated to do so).

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. No kidding
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:27 AM
Nov 2016

How do you think it would go over in the US for American troops to be sent to fight Russian troops in Estonia?

I assert that it would not go over very well considering the significant loss of American lives that would inevitably result.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
23. Russia never invaded Finland or Austria during the Cold War, neither was a NATO member.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:17 AM
Nov 2016

Or Yugoslavia.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
29. Russia invaded Finland during WWII...
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:38 AM
Nov 2016

and got their ass kicked, more or less.

In Yugoslavia, Tito basically told Stalin to pound sand and set up his own Communist dictatorship, no Russkis need apply.

Putin is dreaming of setting up a Greater Russia like days of old. Russia has always dreamed of a couple of things.

1. To be accepted as a major player in European politics

2. To get an ice free port to the Western seas.

Putin is reviving thosse dreams.

rwheeler31

(6,242 posts)
5. The people who work on or near his holdings will be most endangered.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:12 AM
Nov 2016

I hope they can find other jobs soon. Has anyone heard whether they will take his name off of more buildings?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Now that would be truly disastrous
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 10:01 AM
Nov 2016

Let's hope that cooler heads prevail somehow for the sake of humanity.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
18. When the body bags start coming home, his supporters will turn on him.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 10:50 AM
Nov 2016

Like they did with Bush. It may take far too many dead soldiers, but if there us any silver lining to war, it is that it will kill the Trump presidency.

WilliamPlanke

(51 posts)
31. Not safe to stay at a Trump hotel! Dangerous!!
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 12:23 PM
Nov 2016

When word gets out and people stay away out of fear for their own safety, then the a Trump brand will be ruined.

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