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On local Facebook, one of our campaign operatives held a meeting with some seniors regarding the election. When she polled how they voted they were solidly GOP and Trump. NOW they are worried they will lose their benefits.
It is not secret that Hillary and Democrats lost the senior vote. So go figure.
Squinch
(51,021 posts)Response to Squinch (Reply #1)
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Squinch
(51,021 posts)that the idiots among us are hurt badly enough to put Congress back into the hands of sane Americans who aren't white supremacists, bigots, Nazis, misogynists, or scam artists.
I was totally against the "let the whole system blow up so people can see how bad it is" ideology when it was proposed during the primaries. At that point we had other options. Now we don't.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)It will be damn hard to live on less SS, but I'm willing to do it if it helps the Dem party in the long run.
DK504
(3,847 posts)My SS is a joke, can't live comfortably in 90% of the states.
These old voters didn't bother to think about this before the election. Now they are stupid to realize after the election. For their sake I hope a recount occurs and HRC becomes Prez.
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)But we need a registry of Senior Democratics who will need assistance. That includes you. I can't say "good" until people who didn't want this are taken care of.
I'm not sure how to do it - but we've got to take care of our own. Some kind of Adopt A Democratic Senior program by those who can afford to help.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Squinch
(51,021 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)only thing left to do, and now we have reached that point. It's all so bizarre (Trump's appointees, his flipflopping, his weird pronouncements) that one wonders if Trump dimly thinks that very thing.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)We on the Left WARNED YOU HE WAS DANGEROUS!!!
Ol Roy makes a nice gravy when you add water.
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Squinch
(51,021 posts)The country is going to go down the Trump shithole whatever we do. And because of the Supreme Court, we will be reaping the whirlwind those people sowed for a generation.
They did this, we are not in a position where we can do anything about it.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)back for a redo. It's going to be a bumpy ride, folks.
Squinch
(51,021 posts)Also, the stress will be a good weight loss plan. We'll look FABULOUS!
Nay
(12,051 posts)ever since the election!
It's true they haven't anyone but themselves to blame, but you can count on them to find somebody besides themselves. The democratic dogcatcher in Ipswitch County, New Mexico, maybe? LOL
If we are to suffer through Trump, I sincerely wish that all those who voted for him suffer twice as much. Something has to teach these people. I am at a loss as to what will wake them up, so maybe direct and dire consequences will.
Squinch
(51,021 posts)I usually am a stress eater, but this situation has given me a perpetual nausea and I find I am losing weight.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)just to see how it tasted. Warmed up it tastes pretty good. I'm lying, but I expect this type of thing will becomee "normalized" in the upcoming tenure of the trumpfuhrer, bannon and house and senate nazis and the upcoming Supreme Court picks and comfirmations which are more or less guaranteed. God IF you're real, help us seniors and all who deny trumpfuhrer.
GP6971
(31,220 posts)Paul Ryan will be the spearhead on this and we can't trust him for one second.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Maybe once more Americans start feeling the pain of Republican economic and social policies, they will stop voting for those cruel bastards.
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LonePirate
(13,431 posts)They knew - or should have known - the ACA, Medicare and SS would all be on the chopping block if Trump won. They voted for him anyway. So they made a choice to cut their safety net. I feel no sympathy for them.
I will save and direct my sympathies to the millions of Americans who voted for Hillary and did not want to lose their insurance, medical care and retirement income. They are the ones we should be concerned about - not the idiots who voted for Trump.
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)Do you think they're ONLY going to take away Trump voter medicare and Social Security?
Yes, THEY are getting what they voted for. But so the hell are WE getting what THEY voted for.
A little concern for your fellow Democrats who are at serious risk of losing EVERYTHING, please. At least FEIGN it.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Unfortunately, we will suffer just as much as the Trump voters. However, I no longer give a damn about Trump voters. They deserve the mess they created. My thoughts, energy, emotions, effort and wallet will be reserved for Democrats who tried to prevent this looming disaster.
kydo
(2,679 posts)Sadly a good chunk of people have so much miss placed hate for Hillary, that nothing else mattered other then she not be in the White House.
One could not talk to these people as their hate was completely blinding.
I have zero sympathy and no compassion for anyone that voted orange man. They were warned many, oh many times. But no, he was gonna drain the swamp, and build a wall, and put Hillary in jail, and stop giving away free stuff to the blacks and illegals. And yes get rid of Obama Care. Dems just tax and spend. Hillary is the devil. Obama worst President. All Muslims are terrorist and Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya. Stupid stupid stupid, mean nasty hateful trash is what spewed from their mouths.
They deserve all the shit that should happen to them. And they will get no sympathy or help from me.
Now for everyone else, it sucks that we and our love, (non orange man supporters), ones will be forced to suffer for the hitler supporters stupidity.
I will offer all the comfort, sympathy, and help in any shape or form to anyone that didn't support orange man.
We didn't deserve this.
Sadly this is probably the only thing that finally have these idiots stop watching fake news in all forms, and believing the trash they spread. They might just admit they were wrong. Too bad it takes the collapsing of the country to figure out you have been being lied to for the last few decades.
Sad thing is none of this needed to happen. None of it!
yardwork
(61,712 posts)My wife and I are nearing retirement age. Our children are just starting out, seeking careers. Our mothers are elderly. ALL of us are going to suffer a lot because of Trump and Republican control.
Why shouldn't we be angry with the fools who did this?
Nay
(12,051 posts)friends. As far as I'm concerned, the rest of them can go live under a bridge. Oh, wait, I'll be generous -- I've got a cardboard box they can use under that bridge.
davekriss
(4,628 posts)They'll use an age threshold. Everyone over 65 now gets to keep their Medicare, everyone younger are out of luck. Divide and conquer.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)who worked the trenches for Hillary.
Today my Spouse and her friends went to lunch,the two friends are hard core Rethugs and wanted to take back their Country cause it did not look like it did when they were young. Yah right. The Spouse told the two other Senior Girls,get ready for your votes to come back and bit you in the pocket books. Wow,talk about concern,the Girls suddenly figured out they bought the wrong horse and the feed bill is about to burn them big time. He He He!!!!
We are going to get hit like a ton of bricks,first will be a major Income Tax hit on all the people making under 50k per year,and then our Medicare will be stripped. Told our Rethug Kids,get the spare bedroom ready,cause we are coming.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)You're welcome.
doc03
(35,382 posts)asshole it doesn't matter if it doesn't affect them screw the next generation. I said to another one
the other day Trump will let Putin take back Ukraine and the other old USSR countries. He said
it is none of our business what Russia does. They have an excuse for everything this asshole does.
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athena
(4,187 posts)on making sure brown and black people don't get any benefits than on protecting their own benefits. I'd say it serves them right, except that too many Hillary supporters are in the same boat.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)who aren't Republicans. If it doesn't affect them, it's not happening or never happened. Selfish Americans, polluting the planet and denying the results, devouring more resources than anyone, building more bombs than hospitals. We are a bad lot, and I'm guilty as charged. America will not survive Americans, and we deserve to go down.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)It's a big world with a lot of enemies.
Are we going to go it alone?
phylny
(8,389 posts)They are rearing their four grandchildren to boot. They said they're not worried - they will have Tricare for life. But uh, oh - they get tons of benefit$ for the kids. UH OH!
I just can't deal with it sometimes.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)These people, with their vote, have unleashed hell on the rest of us.
I hope they don't get out of it unscathed.
My sympathies are reserved for those that didn't vote for this maniac.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)raccoon
(31,126 posts)is now whining about Republicans trying to get rid of their
Medicare and SS, don't hesitate to throw it back in their face.
They asked for it, they got it.
And in the words of Billy Joel, don't come bitchin' to me.
Aristus
(66,467 posts)I don't know how it feels to be self-destructively stupid.
They'll just have to live with their bad decision. Just as the rest of us will have to live with their bad decision...
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)They know it won't affect them, it will affect people hoping to retire in 20 years. Hey, at least we have 401Ks
watoos
(7,142 posts)they should think again. Even if they say it will only affect people 55 and younger that will be a lie. Once the younger people are removed from SS and Medicare the programs will crumble.
Different Drummer
(7,650 posts)Nor do I...fortunately.
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LibraLiz1973
(8,197 posts)Squinch
(51,021 posts)TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)medical condition. We both are on Medicare. Now that my wife has developed an arrhythmic heart condition we will need coverage. So we are concerned. We still pay a large copay even though we are on Medicare.
People will die early without their care.
keithbvadu2
(36,937 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)Now they are worried. It's funny and sad they didn't consider that in the Voting booth.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)to worry about since white supremacist nazis are in the drivers seat, WH, House and Senate, along with every other senion citizen , pro trumpfuhrer or con, chronic care patients ect., we just might be struck from the rolls 65 or older JUST because we are PoC. Yes race has ALWAYS been a question asked on ALL government paperwork. Most people answer that question....I always since my 60's awakening put-wrote in HUMAN. PoC won't be able to hide in the pro-trumpfuhrer mobs that are coming.
Different Drummer
(7,650 posts)any possible consequences of voting for Sir Donald of Orange.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)no sympathy here.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)who is not 65 before 2022. That is who will not be allowed to enroll in Medicare. The people on Medicare before that stay on but their costs will go up, probably double.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I'll die on the job.
Tanuki
(14,922 posts)come, as their numbers (and votes) dwindle and today's strong Medicare program becomes a distant memory and/or source of resentment for the younger people who will never have it, what would stop a future congress from abolishing it altogether?
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)I will be 65 in 2027 ... aren't I lucky
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)some of us are on medicare, but because of disability.
MFM008
(19,820 posts)If we have to worry about my 79 year old mom losing any of her benefits.
Drop dead.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)in the county I live in the funding for all senior centers have just been taken away because of Trumps win.
raccoon
(31,126 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)because its as good as done. I'm sure they can find jobs in the make America great again economy, if their grand kids don't mind giving up their burger flipping jobs to them.
Flatpicker
(894 posts)Party like it's 1928.
Guess MAGA includes lots of seniors out on the streets and freezing.
It's going to be terrible for the next 4 years.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)I am on Soc-Sec and Medicare due to disability and I am in my late 40's. People like me are probably going lose ours first. I am going to have a hard time to not be rude when I meet someone losing everything and they voted for Trump.
Different Drummer
(7,650 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)sheshe2
(83,928 posts)I want to take my country back.
You got it, don't cry to me that you voted for a racist sexist POS that cares nothing for us. He is going to use the Treasury as his own personal piggy bank. You get nothing and now the rest of us will suffer for your stupidity.
DavidDvorkin
(19,489 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Don't vote for a shit hole and expect to get none on you.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)on their SS checks for their only source of income; and would not be able to afford Ryan's private Medicare insurance.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)have gotten out and voted. Less people voted for HRC than Obama. Had those Obama numbers come out for HRC, she would have won.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)After 2013 millions of voters were purged from the polls, and others had to meet new voter ID requirements. They also eliminated polling stations in Democratic areas and cut back on early voting hours.
So please don't talk to me about Obama voters. Obama didn't have to contend with the obstacles Hillary raced.
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heaven05
(18,124 posts)at a modern all time high. The Civil-Voting rights has been dismantled by the Supreme Court. A couple of million in those upcoming contested states COULD NOT vote because of some 50's ID laws. Wake up and smell what you're shoveling. I love that line, cause you exemplify it perfectly.
sakabatou
(42,176 posts)Hekate
(90,829 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)But these fucking idiot senior tRump voters are too brain dead to realize this apparently.
I hope they feel it.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)It will be worse than the ACA.
IDIOTS.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Republicans taste like chicken!
Care to talk now?
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Instead they get a Trojan Horse with the face of Trump and Kushner.
RandySF
(59,264 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)...will find it brutally bitter when they discover that the gold-plated Republican grifters are laffing their chickenhawk asses off at them.
Nay
(12,051 posts)Vinca
(50,310 posts)If they were too lazy to learn about the issues before the election, let them think this will affect them immediately rather than 10 years down the road. If they figure it out, maybe they'll think twice next time because they'd like their children to have a secure old age.
TrishaJ
(798 posts)And they marched right to the polls with their heads stuck up their butts and voted for Trump because EMAILS... BENGAHZI...VINCE FOSTER....blah, blah, blah. Now they can reap the consequences.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)just don't understand or are filled with so much hate and fear of change and the brown hordes that they have hurt themselves, me, millions of us seniors. America is so fucked up with the historical baggage that has turned into lead weight. We can't even, as we have for generations, tread water anymore. We are going to drown in a sea of hypocrisy and alt-right(white supremacy) reaction to the 'brown hordes' they feel are the enemy of the "sun people". That really makes me laugh. Full of darkness and want to be known as " the sun people". GOD!!!! I hate these fucks. I am old enough to lose what those pro-trumpfuhrer voters are afraid of .....now.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)... legislatures, state executive branches, and now all branches of the federal government, I'm starting to think it's going to take another Great Depression to make a comeback.
It was already INSANE that most polls showed the Presidential race was close at all! Trump was a horrible candidate, with a long list of negatives that made Hillary's supposed "negatives" pale in comparison!
Such countrywide victories, from local to national, tells me that the steady brainwashing from the likes of Limbaugh and others have worked extremely well, but reality will ultimately prevail after enough Americans are dragged into the muck by Republican/Libertarian policies.
A white family living in a tent or car isn't going to get riled up over BLM protestors blocking a highway on the other side of the country!
hatrack
(59,593 posts)Boo-hoo.
BeyondGeography
(39,382 posts)Initech
(100,104 posts)Instead they let hate and Fox News bullshit get in the way of critical thinking.
Oneironaut
(5,525 posts)They'll vote against their own interests, and then complain when they don't get what they want. In a little under a year, the Trump hangover will intensify. He's a corporatist tool who wants to destroy the environment, gut programs for poor people, and make the rich richer.
He's only in it to serve himself and his own business. Poor people and the middle class are going to get screwed again.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Trump voters deserve whatever they get. But the problem is that the rest of us will be hurt too as a result of Agent Fuckhead.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)usedtobedemgurl
(1,145 posts)They thought they were doing a protest vote, never imagined they would win, and now are having buyer's remorse.
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)and I voted for her!
MiniMe
(21,719 posts)Not that I trust anything that comes out of Ryan's mouth.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,199 posts)DFW
(54,445 posts)And then breathe a big sigh of relief when intensive examination of WI, MI and PA gives the presidency back to Hillary where it belongs.
Yeah, yeah, I know--dream on.
But if Trump is sworn in, I hope he and his Republican pals so disgust their constituency that even rigged voting can't save them in the next 4 presidential elections.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)Fuck them all because they are taking us with them.
budkin
(6,717 posts)These ignorant fools deserve it. Maybe they will finally understand they shouldn't vote against their own best interests.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)from "certain areas" do some work for a change!
RIGHT!?!?
krobar659
(35 posts)What the hell is wrong with people? Why do people do shit like this? Are these people insane? I just read where 20 million Trump voters are going to lose their overtime pay because Trump is going to overturn an Obama decision. Why? Don't you understand what the republicans want to do to you? But you know, it was those damn emails! Well you idiots, you are going to get what you have coming to you!!! DONALD TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT! I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE BASTARD!
Ruth Bonner
(192 posts)Soc Sec and Medicare. In terms of policy changes that will effect me, personally, this is my biggest immediate concern.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)What stupid, selfish people.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)Damn fools.
JHan
(10,173 posts)boguspotus
(286 posts)Since I'm going to get fucked too - no sympathy for trump fucks. Go to hell bastards.
BlueSpot
(856 posts)As my mother used to say when teaching about consequences, "Don't come crying to me."
BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)As they've fucked everybody else with no consideration, I don't know how we can worry about them. You can't help those who bite the hands that try to feed them.