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Ok. I'll say it: I think Trump is a coke head. (Original Post) LaydeeBug Nov 2016 OP
Doubtful. linuxman Nov 2016 #1
Oh, I know LOTS of people who don't smoke or drink, but do blow. LOTS. LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #3
Okay. linuxman Nov 2016 #4
You are close.. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2016 #12
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm still_one Nov 2016 #27
I've seen it-control freak types, wanting to feel invincible.... Very possible. bettyellen Nov 2016 #5
Sniff sniff C_U_L8R Nov 2016 #2
He looks like a man who had been completely self indulgent ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #6
Carrie Fisher says he absolutely is a cokehead. liberalmuse Nov 2016 #7
I think Kelly Anne seems coked up too. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #20
Bannon looks like he came bdamomma Nov 2016 #34
I don't think so JonLP24 Nov 2016 #8
We have no idea what his health is like gollygee Nov 2016 #13
My opinion too. cwydro Nov 2016 #22
I haven't even seen coke since I left Washington JonLP24 Nov 2016 #28
Exactly. cwydro Nov 2016 #30
We can hope for these things....n/t Horse with no Name Nov 2016 #32
Crooked Coke Fiend? kentuck Nov 2016 #9
Nope...don't use his term on him...use another...coke head LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #15
he is mentally not well bdamomma Nov 2016 #35
Maybe Pence will be president before too long. lpbk2713 Nov 2016 #10
I think he's functionally illiterate.... dawnie51 Nov 2016 #11
Along with functionally illiterate, I think he's ADHD and no doubt on some prescription LuckyLib Nov 2016 #24
He's too bloated to be a Coke fiend. NightWatcher Nov 2016 #14
It is a mistake to assume all coke heads are skinny. It just isn't true. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #16
I say absolutely not. The very first thing is he would be a lot thinner. TrekLuver Nov 2016 #17
He was a player with Roy COHN at Studio 54 in the '70s. Do we really believe he abstained?!1 UTUSN Nov 2016 #18
wouldn't he be way skinnier jodymarie aimee Nov 2016 #19
Google Chris Farley and John Belusci. You're welcome. nt LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #21
And they didn't live to be 70. cwydro Nov 2016 #23
He's just a dope, he doesn't have the excuse of using dope, he's just plain stupid. nt Raine Nov 2016 #25
Nah, I think he's a speed freak canetoad Nov 2016 #26
I posted before reading this. I subscribed to Spy magazine at the time and remember reading this. octoberlib Nov 2016 #33
Had to look up the ingredients of Adderall canetoad Nov 2016 #36
Take it from a former coke head redstateblues Nov 2016 #29
Spy magazine did an article on Trump's "Dr. Feelgood" octoberlib Nov 2016 #31
interesting post bdamomma Nov 2016 #37
Yes and it's a legal drug. He wouldn't have to risk going through a dealer. octoberlib Nov 2016 #38
Kick. sarcasmo Nov 2016 #39
 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
1. Doubtful.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:57 PM
Nov 2016

In my experience, folks that make it a point to abstain from alcohol and tobacco don't make an exception for the hard stuff.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
3. Oh, I know LOTS of people who don't smoke or drink, but do blow. LOTS.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 06:58 PM
Nov 2016

In fact, most of the ones I know are that way.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. You are close..
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:35 PM
Nov 2016

it was reported in New Yorker that he drinks about a gallon of diet COKE a day.

Apparently he does not see that has drinking caffeine, but he does pass on coffee and tea.

a gallon of sugar water would indeed keep most people up and moving.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. I've seen it-control freak types, wanting to feel invincible.... Very possible.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:04 PM
Nov 2016

If you have seen his summer yammering on, then you know it's around him every darned day too.

ismnotwasm

(41,991 posts)
6. He looks like a man who had been completely self indulgent
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:06 PM
Nov 2016

Food, drugs, sex, pleasures. He tends toward the baroque, the tasteless. Even though he could come across as dignified, he seems to take pleasure in presenting himself as undignified. Crass. Rude. Sloppy. Mocking. He has a creeper sensuality about him that I find remarkably repulsive--much like the coke dealers I used to know many years ago.

He doesn't strick me as an actual addict, but a very wealthy manipulative personality.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. I don't think so
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:07 PM
Nov 2016

He may be for all I know but at his age if he is addicted his health would quickly be deteriorated putting himself at high risks for stroke or heart attacks not to mention damage to liver or kidneys.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
13. We have no idea what his health is like
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:36 PM
Nov 2016

All we've seen is a phony doctor's report that was obviously written by him.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. My opinion too.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:10 PM
Nov 2016

Plus I don't have the vast personal knowledge of cokeheads that others here seem to, but usually they're not morbidly obese.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
28. I haven't even seen coke since I left Washington
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:25 PM
Nov 2016

Heroin is a big problem around here and it wasn't that way until recently. Prescription iPod's had a lot to do with that.

I think if Trump was more than a casual user he'd have to crash a lot which isn't likely with all the appearances he has to keep up.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
9. Crooked Coke Fiend?
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:09 PM
Nov 2016

Everybody has to admit that there is just "something" about the guy that just ain't right...

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
15. Nope...don't use his term on him...use another...coke head
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:40 PM
Nov 2016

demand random mandatory drug tests.

bdamomma

(63,881 posts)
35. he is mentally not well
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:31 PM
Nov 2016

do we have any practicing psych nurses or mental health personnel here on DU? to give an opinion.

lpbk2713

(42,760 posts)
10. Maybe Pence will be president before too long.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:10 PM
Nov 2016

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I hope we're ready for that.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
11. I think he's functionally illiterate....
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 07:27 PM
Nov 2016

that's why he needs a kid, preferably the daughter, in the room with him whenever he meets with people. He can't grasp the conversation, has nothing to add, and has to have things filtered through the kids, because he trusts no one else. There is no reason for the daughter to be in meetings with the Japanese ambassador. Or myriad other meetings. They are there to protect the old man from exposing his stupidity. And a pocket of blow doesn't hurt

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
24. Along with functionally illiterate, I think he's ADHD and no doubt on some prescription
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:17 PM
Nov 2016

drugs. He has no attention span, low impulse control, anger management issues.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
17. I say absolutely not. The very first thing is he would be a lot thinner.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:41 PM
Nov 2016

This is all coming about because of the sniffing thing. He does the sniffing thing,,,,it's what he does. Like some folks play with their hair, bite their nails, lick their lip etc....that's what he does...he sniffs his stress.

If he was abusing drugs which I don't think he is...he's always been a "goody goody" in that aspect...it would be pills.

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
18. He was a player with Roy COHN at Studio 54 in the '70s. Do we really believe he abstained?!1
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:52 PM
Nov 2016

From *ANYTHING*. I noticed his respiratory SNORTING before the media called it "sniffing." COHN seized on the young DRUMPFster and they stuck together like barnicles, COHN who received guests in stages of undress and (guessing here) with trays of whatever inhibition-suppressants.

If we're supposed to know about politicians' taxes and health, why can't we ask about his odd night hours, apparent lack of sleeping, and erratic babbling?!1

canetoad

(17,169 posts)
26. Nah, I think he's a speed freak
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:19 PM
Nov 2016

Maybe even without knowing it.

I remember a drug that was about in the 70s and 80s. Never used it, but it was marketed as a diet pill. Called Tenuate Dospan.


http://winningdemocrats.com/donald-trump-has-spent-decades-tweaked-out-on-amphetamines/
Spy magazine, way back in 1992, published a feature exposing Dr. Joseph Greenberg, alleging he was simply an amphetamine pill mill for wealthy clientele. Trump was a loyal patient of the good doctor, which may explain his paranoid narcissistic worldview.

Have you ever wondered why Donald Trump has acted so erratically at times, full of manic energy, paranoid, garrulous? Well, he was a patient of Dr. Greenberg’s from 1982 to 1985…Dr. Greenberg diagnosed both of the Trump brothers as suffering from a ‘metabolic imbalance.’”

Greenberg treated the future xenophobic candidate, who had an obsessive fear of gaining weight, for what he diagnosed as a “metabolic imbalance.” (For the record, there is no such legitimate medical disorder.) To cure this nonexistent disease, Greenberg prescribed the miracle drug Tenuate Dospan.

According to the NIH, this nifty little diet pill causes such fun side effects as fear or nervousness, false or unusual sense of well-being, severe mental changes, and seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there…and this is all only based on short-term use.



I also found this thread on the Blue Light (drugs) forum:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/658949-Anyone-remember-Tenuate-Dospan

A recent thread about UK speed reminded me of 'Chalkies', AKA 'Tombstones', brand name 'Tenuate Dospan', chemical name 'Diethylproprion'. my experience of these was around 1981. An aquaintenance's mother was prescribed these for weight loss, but she sold them to her son for his nights down Wigan Casino (classy, huh!). They were white and oblong with a score across the middle with (I think) 'SKF' debossed on the reverse side. I don't know how strong they were, but one morning, myself and a friend, (both aged about 17), took six each. We had previously been told that in addition to its amphetamine-like appetite suppressant activity, another reason for its anorexic effects was that each tablet swelled up to the size of a cigarette packet, therefore also making you physically 'full'. God knows how true this was, but I remember after about half an hour, I felt this amazing 'full' feeling wash over me, which was the start of the most amazing 6 hour experience I had ever had in my life at that point. The euphoria and empathy I felt was like nothing I'd had before and would never experience again until MDMA came on the scene. i'd had speed before, and bloody good speed at that - but this took it to a completely new level for me, and turned me into a speed freak for the next 20 years.

So does anyone remember these little buggers? Are they still available (Rx or black market)? Does anyone else agree that the effect was much more serotonin based than most 'classic' stims? Cheers!!

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
33. I posted before reading this. I subscribed to Spy magazine at the time and remember reading this.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:25 PM
Nov 2016

Journalists on Twitter were saying that it wasn't cocaine but that Trump crushes and snorts Adderall.

canetoad

(17,169 posts)
36. Had to look up the ingredients of Adderall
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:34 PM
Nov 2016

Yes, it seems likely. I'm not even sure about him snorting anything. I reckon the sniffing is a tic or unconscious thing. Knowing his dislike of other drugs, he may have fooled himself into thinking his pills really are for a metabolic imbalance. Just happens to make him feel good.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
29. Take it from a former coke head
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:30 PM
Nov 2016

I'm pretty sure he is one. That whole sniffing thing, tweeting at 3 AM, the drastic mood shifts, the manic energy, the freaky weird rally personality tell me there is something going on.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
31. Spy magazine did an article on Trump's "Dr. Feelgood"
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:20 PM
Nov 2016

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back in the day who provided Trump and other celebrities with "vitamin shots" and pills(speed). I think it was late 80's, early 90's. I was on Twitter during the debate when Trump couldn't stop sniffing and Howard Dean tweeted that he was a cokehead. 4 different journalists that I follow immediately tweeted Howard and said "It's not coke, it's Adderall". I googled Adderall and found out that if you crush it and snort it , Adderall has very similar effects to cocaine. This might explain that weird doctor that always follows Trump around.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
38. Yes and it's a legal drug. He wouldn't have to risk going through a dealer.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 12:04 AM
Nov 2016

Taking a prescription drug probably isn't the same thing to him as being "on drugs" . He took diet pills for years and may still be taking them.

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