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red dog 1

(27,816 posts)
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 05:53 PM Nov 2016

Orrin Hatch puts a big wrinkle in McConnell's'potential nuking of the filibuster rule

Daily Kos
November 17, 2016

CROTCHETY ORREN HATCH PUTS A BIG WRINKLE IN McCONNEL'S POTENTIAL NUKING OF THE FILIBUSTER RULE


Gleeful Republicans see nothing standing in their way to giving tax cuts to the rich, starving the olds and poors, and a Supreme Court that will put women back in the kitchen, pregnant and barefoot now that they have Donald Trump going to the White House and a lock on Congress.
Nothing, that is, but Senate Democrats and the filibuster.

The way around that is, of course, the way Democrats did it when Republicans were refusing to allow President Obama's appointments to get to the floor - modifying the Senate rules with 51 votes to end the filibuster on them.
So McConnell just has to do that with the 52 votes he now has
(or likely will following the Louisiana run-off), right?
Or not.

On Wednesday, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) may have put a dagger in the scheme.

Asked by the Huffington Post about ending the filibuster, he was blunt:
"Are you kidding?" he said with some vehemence.
"I'm one of the biggest advocates of the filibuster.
It's the only way to protect the minority, and we've been in the minority a lot more than we've been in the majority.
It's just a great, great protection for the minority."

Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-SC), the most vehement of the Never Trumpers, agrees, telling reporters on Tuesday that it's "a horrible, terrible idea," and he would oppose on the floor "in a heartbeat."

Where Graham goes, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is pretty likely to follow, so there's a definite two and probably three votes to derail any visions that McConnell has of neutering the Democrats.

More;
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/17/1600870/-Crotchety-Orrin-Hatch-puts-a-big-wrinkle-in-McConnell-s-potential-nuking-of-the-filibuster

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Orrin Hatch puts a big wrinkle in McConnell's'potential nuking of the filibuster rule (Original Post) red dog 1 Nov 2016 OP
You can also add rand paul to the mix.nt. drray23 Nov 2016 #1
Good! Lucinda Nov 2016 #2
What surprised me most about Hatch was his relationship with Muhammad Ali malaise Nov 2016 #3
I was surprised oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #12
ROFL malaise Nov 2016 #14
The filibuster was the favorite tool of the Republicans Qutzupalotl Nov 2016 #4
Changing the filibuster rule does not work well in changing, if it works for the moment Thinkingabout Nov 2016 #5
Good to hear! dhol82 Nov 2016 #6
One small ray of sunshine Martin Eden Nov 2016 #7
Good for him for taking the long view. Chemisse Nov 2016 #8
Hatch is old school, he respects senate traditions and norms, like Robert Byrd or Bob Dole jg10003 Nov 2016 #9
Obstruction lessons have been given for 8 years. Hope they got it. lonestarnot Nov 2016 #10
If they haven't gotten them yet, they will, and SOON. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2016 #11
Republicans tend to lie sellitman Nov 2016 #13

Qutzupalotl

(14,313 posts)
4. The filibuster was the favorite tool of the Republicans
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 06:13 PM
Nov 2016

when they were in the minority. They used it a record number of times, without regard to a nominee's merit, entirely for political ends.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Changing the filibuster rule does not work well in changing, if it works for the moment
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 06:19 PM
Nov 2016

And the number should change then the Republicans would find themselves trying to climb out of their ditch they dug for themselves.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
8. Good for him for taking the long view.
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 06:55 PM
Nov 2016

Most of these people can't see past the next election. It's all about winning everything - right now.

jg10003

(976 posts)
9. Hatch is old school, he respects senate traditions and norms, like Robert Byrd or Bob Dole
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 07:15 PM
Nov 2016

I don't agree with him on anything, but I do respect him. It will be a sad day when his type is replaced by the likes of Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
13. Republicans tend to lie
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 08:50 PM
Nov 2016

I don't believe this bull crap for a second. As soon as they get obstructed they will do away with the filibuster so fast it will make your head spin.

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