Open Letter to Hillary Clinton. If you want to Lead us, then get back in now and do so!

[kydo]

Dear Hillary,

What is now happening to America is not normal. In the normal America your respect for protocol and niceties is exactly how you would expect someone with grace and dignity to act. This is not normal America.

You ran to be our President, our Leader. Despite a combined and coordinated alliance, of the media, the Russians, and white supremacists, you won!

You won the popular vote. You would have won by a bigger margin if the system had not been rigged. And you most certainly would have won the old out dated Electoral College if this hadn't been rigged.

Don't let the bullies win. Stand up and fight! You are a fighter. Stand up and fight to end this sham of an election.

Claim what you won! Lead us! We will follow!

Thanks,
America

[Hugin]

1. Good letter.

You've said what's been on my mind.

[kydo]

2. I should have brought her mother into this

The one thing that has been knocking around my head since this nightmare started was the story of HRC's mother telling a young Hillary to go stand up to those bullies!

Gore took back his concession in 2000, so this would not be new.

If Hillary changed her mind (orange man flip flops every day 4 or 5 times, and she is a woman, woman can change their minds), and took back her concession and challenged the elections, not just the results but the whole election. She would have at least 63 million people backing her. They already are backing her, only we have no rallying point to coordinate our efforts.

If she wants to be our leader. Now is the time to prove it!

[Sunny05]

16. I also have thought of her mom.

Would love e to see a #DorothysDaughter movement with your message. But, then Pantsuit Nation (with # or as movement) works.

And your open letter is awesome.

[Afromania]

3. thinking the same

I've been thinking this as well. Get back in there and say that my record breaking vote total for somebody that "lost" the election is so great I have a mandate to fight you tooth and nail, turn over every stone, and generally nail your sorry butts to the wall on every issue.

[radical noodle]

4. I agree to a point

but few on the other side would listen because they would label her as a sore loser.

[kydo]

5. So, let them

They labeled her all kinds of things. I fully except them to continue. Its what bullies do.

If everyone who ever stood up for what it is right worried about being called names no one would have ever stood up.

The mere fact that they would and will call us these names proves we are in the right.

[radical noodle]

9. That's true

and she's always stood up to the bullies even when so many of us didn't defend her more strongly.

[stopbush]

6. Hillary gave her all during this campaign. She deserves some time off.

Like it or not, someone else needs to pick up the gauntlet. Demanding that Hillary be that person is unreasonable and myopic.

[UTUSN]

7. Agreed. Besides that she has been sailing against a head wind all of her life. n/t

[kydo]

8. No it's not unreasonable!

If she gave her heart and soul in to this effort now is definitely not the time to quit!

That's like a footballer playing a game that just went into overtime deciding that he gave it all during the 4 quarters of regulation time but is tired and is gonna sit out for the deciding quarter. That's insane!

[stopbush]

11. No, it's like an NFL team that just lost the Super Bowl.

There is no overtime. There is no imagined storybook chance to set things right. There's only next year and better luck next time.

Reality has reared its ugly head, and we need to deal with reality, not pipe dreams.

[MoonRiver]

13. I agree, and let's not forget that Gore was 18 years younger than Hillary is now.

Maybe some can keep fighting until they keel over, but, as someone a few years younger than Hillary, and having experienced multiple health issues, I say, leave her alone. Let her live out her years in peace.

[kydo]

15. Well, then maybe she should take refugee in another country, because

the biggest rallying cry we heard from orange man supporters was "Lock her up!"

The orange man to her face on national TV repeated this sentiment.

If a crazy person says "I am going to kill you." Believe them!

[MoonRiver]

17. If I were her, I might be worried. Except he walked that back after she conceded.

[kydo]

20. How many times has he walked back a walk back?

We are talking about a pathological lair. He ranted how corrupt she was forever. His minions want her locked up. He is stupid and to please them after a major let down, like not really draining the swamp, and only getting a 3ft high wire garden barrier, orange man will have to give red meat to his flock or they will have his head.

Mark my word. If orange man assumes power, he will go after Hillary.

[Ilsa]

27. So if her life is in danger, you want to throw her into the middle

of it again?

She's what, 69 years old? I'm more than a decade younger and I'm tired from this election.

Sometimes it's time for others to take up the mantel of leadership. Maybe it's time for her to enjoy the fruit of her labors instead of working herself to death.

[kydo]

29. They are going to attempt to put her in prison anyway, so why night fight while she still can.

It will be a kangaroo court. But when you control all levels of the government you can do what you want.

But don't think for one minute that orange man and his minions won't use Hillary as a way to please the populous and distract from the disaster they are calling an administration. Because they will. It's classic authoring rule. And it will sooth orange mans ego.

So there is a big X on her back regardless.

[Ilsa]

39. I think the X is gone if she is "gone."

They had nothing on her before. Nothing now.

Let her decide for herself without the pressure of what you and others want. I think she's smart enough to figure out what the pitfalls are, and she'll have the best legal advice in the world.

[annarbor]

36. Agreed!

This was grueling and a massive disappointment. She can take time off to recover. I know she is not out o the picture for good. She's only human.

Ann Arbor

[world wide wally]

10. Hillary is very intelligent and if there is a "realistic" hope that there is a chance,

I have no doubts that she will jump back into the fray.
In the meantime, I am sure she is letting attorneys and advisors calculate her odds and avenues. There is probably little she can personally do right now and she shouldn't be expected to be doing more.
Don't forget there is a fascist prick in control that wants to send his political opponents to prison. She deserves to let others do the dirty work in the trenches right now.
Nothing would make me happier than to see her jump back in..... When the time is right.

[kydo]

12. True. But maybe she also needs to hear this from us

If she does change her mind and decides to stand up and fight, we are with her!

To paraphrase the orange man, "What does she have to lose?"

They call her names now. So they will call her names anyway. And they want her in jail. And if they really get their way, not only would she be in jail but they will demand a public execution.

So I think she has everything to lose if she does nothing.

Only she can claim this. And if she does, I will fight with her, as my country really is depending on it!

[stopbush]

14. So in other words, it's all on Hillary's shoulders, and if she fails

to jump back into the fray right now, we can lay at her feet the real or imagined disaster that will be the Trump administration.

One would have thought that losing the election was more than enough for an individual to handle.

Hillary is not going to "stand up and fight" in the way you are demanding. What is your Plan B?

[kydo]

18. No it is not all on her shoulders, if orange man fails or if he wins.

That's on him and his minions.

My plan B is to fight by any means necessary. Plan C, leave the country. You?

[stopbush]

24. I've been fighting the battle (voting) since 1972.

Frankly, I'm more than ready for some younger blood and their financial support to step up to the plate and assume the mantle that we oldsters have worn for years.

And, no, I'm not going anywhere. You shouldn't either.

[cwydro]

40. Execution? Seriously?

[Ligyron]

19. If she's actually going to do something it should be now.

Before too long she'd have to remind everyone she won the popular vote.

I agree she deserves a rest however.

Between Sessions and Trump, they may try to prosecute her for some damned thing anyway.

[Alameda]

21. I agree, she needs to fight this

....the future is too bleak...and they are threatening to lock her up. I just say a car with a bumper sticker saying "Put Hillary in Jail"
Things like that do happen.

[Buzz Clik]

22. So you want Clinton to jump in a declare that the election was rigged and she's the rightful Prez?

And this in the immediate aftermath of ridiculing Trump for refusing to say he'd accept the results of the election?

[kydo]

26. Yes!

She will be ridiculed regardless. Bullies always ridicule and demean that which they fear.

orange man is counting on her NOT to fight. That's why he went on the "it's rigged," rant in the first place. This is a man that keeps a book that has hitler's mind set all in it. He is doing exactly what hitler did.

hitler occupied the Rhineland beating that the Allies would not do anything. hitler decides Austria should be apart of Germany so he just takes it. hitler, then wants more living space and decides to invade Czechoslovakia, and the Allies work with him. hitler wants Poland. Finally the Allies say enough, and decide to fight. hitler makes deal with Russia, they carve up Poland and the World is at War.

hitler did that betting the Allies would do nothing.

orange man is betting that Hillary won't fight because she pledged to honor the system.

Only, it was a trap. The system was rigged, always has been. The only thing that binds us together is that we have to believe it is not rigged and honor it. orange man is a con. His crazy antics were consent diversions from each crazy thing to the next that it was complete chaos. We mocked his sanity and lies so when he spouted its rigged we did what normal people do. Mocked his crazy, and lies. Re-affirmed our belief in a rigged system.

Walk it back.

Do the unexpected.

Don't do what orange man is excepting you to do.

Walk it back.

Take back the concession. Fight for what you did win! orange man and his minions will call you lair and all kinds of crap. So they do it anyway.

Call the con for what it is. Change your mind and fight!

This is not a normal year. Don't do the normal expected thing. Nobody else is.

Stand and fight!

[Buzz Clik]

30. Finding the mute button. This nucking futz.

[jmg257]

35. She already did the unexpected when she lost. She was devasted then. And rightly so.

No one expected her to lose, including her.

I think she is done with this BS.

[yallerdawg]

23. If Trump and the election are discredited...

and the public clamor and acclaim calls for Hillary, then "Yes!"

As it stands now, America, reap what you sow.

[BlueCaliDem]

28. Only if its 269 to 269. Otherwise, the 270 winner is president.

People need to understand that We the People don't directly vote for president. We the People vote for every other station in our Gov't except president.

538 people - Electors - vote for president and that doesn't happen until 12-19-2016. We the People vote in order to give 'the sense of the people" so they can use that and other variables before they cast their educated vote. And they are supposed to be independent of what their State totals show.

[kydo]

31. So maybe it really is about Hamilton after all.

What a crazy world we live in. The fake VP is booed at a broadway play titled "Hamilton." The fake prez, goes on twitter rant about how bad play is, and bad on us for booing his fake vp. Yet if the people that get to vote in the Electoral College actually listened to Hamilton, we might noy have to be in this mess after all. orange man is unfit.

Only, while that might be the official reason we cling to the Electoral College. That was not the real true intent. It's intent was to make sure a populist was not elected. To make sure there was no mob rule. The real fear for this and part of why we fought for Independence from England was slaves. England had out-lawed slavery and it's colonies were supposed to fallen in line. Yes there was the taxation and other issues that we site. But slavery was one issue not associated in high school history class with our fight for Independence. But it was in reality very important to many people in the colonies to keep. By creating an Electoral College they gave themselves a fail safe switch just in case their power was ever in trouble.

So while yes, the Electoral College does in theory offer us a way out of this mess. The Electoral College is also made up of partisan delegates. The winner seats the delegates. orange man delegates like him this is what they want they are not going to change enough to right the wrong.

[Calista241]

32. This is crazy. The electoral college explicitly laid out in the Constitution.

The electoral college has been the law of the land for 228 years. Yes it may be outdated, but the immediate aftermath of losing an electoral college vote is not the time to challenge it. It stinks of sour grapes, and if the positions were reversed, we'd be ridiculing Republicans and the Trumpers for YEARS.

Legally, this is a case that cannot be won. She'd be laughed out of court before her lawyer was able to say "Good morning, your honor."

For die hard liberals, i can see how this argument makes sense. But the vast majority of the country just wants to take comfort in knowing we will have a President, and that the wheels of government and our society will keep turning.

I see a silver lining in this election. Trump will be up for election again in 2020. And since he's bound to screw it up, the Dems should steamroll the elections. And since 2020 is a Census year, WE will be able to be in charge of redistricting. We have the opportunity to dominate elections for decades.

[kydo]

33. Right now, I have no faith that anything in the Constitution will be up held after Jan 20, 2017

It won't matter what the census says, those who get the data inform us of the results so maps can be re-drawn. Who controls that? Oh mostly republicans.

Who enforces civil and voting rights? The Justice Dept. Who is going to control that? republicans.

So we have gripe, we take it to court to a judge. Who gets to appoint these judges? republicans.

Who will get to make the laws? republicans.

Who will be in charge of law enforcement? republicans.

Who will be in charge of the military? republicans.

Who will be in charge of our spy agencies? republicans.

Who gets to use drones? republicans.

Who gets access to nuclear weapons? republicans.


See a scary pattern here. Some one very bad once said, "It's not who votes, that wins. It's who counts the votes." And I botched the quote but I hope my point was made.

[Calista241]

37. So what are we supposed to do?

What is Hillary supposed to do about your fear? There is no way for anyone to address your fears here. and remember, lots of people here couldn't believe that W Bush would relinquish the Presidency to a black President

I think there are far too many people of conscious in government for your fears to become reality. We already have senate Republicans refusing to expand the nuclear option so Trump can get any candidate through to the supreme court. If they're going to disagree with him on that, i can't see them letting Trump become a run away dictatorship.

[kydo]

38. I guess we do nothing then, why bother.

Put our faith that people in the government will take care of it. I give up. I guess I will just forget about it. Why bother even getting involved my voice is stupid not important and doesn't matter anyway. Why even bother voting in the first place. The whole thing is rigged and will never change. Maybe I should just deal with the things I can, enjoy my life without having the heart and head ache that comes with voting.

I guess I know what I will be doing then. Sell my house, and move from FL to California. Get a job, find a place to stay, buy some weed, volunteer at church, start a new garden and enjoy my remaining years away from crazy nutters, and devoid of politics.

Time to move on.

[jmg257]

34. Too bad she conceded. Next time. :(

[kydo]

41. Yeah, I am shamelessly kicking my OP

Might have a bit more meaning now.