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Cyrano

(15,060 posts)
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:25 PM Oct 2016

Today's version of the Republican Party must be defeated and crushed

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It seems that the ugly side of human nature is once again in ascendance. And sane people understand the need to crush this present insanity that the Republican Party embodies. But how?

We've seen this before in history. And if history is any guide, the coming years will test our fortitude, our integrity and our need to challenge those who are taking us down a path of insanity and utter destruction. But how do we battle them, and retain our humanity while doing so? The danger is that we will become what we hate. And we may just destroy ourselves and our country in the process.

Nonetheless, we are faced by what may be called a "second civil war." It wont involve regional conflicts, (slave states vs. free states), or the bloody nineteenth century conflict that resulted in the deaths of three quarters of a million Americans (more than died in all of our other wars put together). But it will involve ideological conflicts over what kind of people and country we are.

Does anyone on this DU site really question that the Republican Party has pushed us to the wall with their made up lies and their invention of an alternate reality? It's past time that we fought back against thiir verbal venom with more than our claims of "moral rectitude." It's past time that we shoved their poison down their own throats.

And therein lies the dilemma. How do we go about fighting them while we tie our hands behind our backs with our sense of "righteousness?" How do we keep our consciences clean while we get down in the sewer with our adversaries?

How do we engage in full battle for everything that we believe in? It seems that our defeat lies in our own sense of right and wrong. And therein lies the dilemma of how we can win. It seems that being "moral" is hard and that it leads to defeat. Nonetheless, the arc of history seems to bend toward what we define as "the common good."

So all of that philosophical ranting brings us to today's ultimate question. What do we do to combat what might be described as "the pure evil" of today's Republican Party?

Suggestions?

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Today's version of the Republican Party must be defeated and crushed (Original Post) Cyrano Oct 2016 OP
Vote them out of office, each & every Republicans! imanamerican63 Oct 2016 #1
They've gerrymandered us out of existence in many states Cyrano Oct 2016 #4
I guess the point of giving up is what you are looking for? imanamerican63 Oct 2016 #6
I think we have to reach out to those who can be reached. Willie Pep Oct 2016 #3
You're right, of course RexCasual Oct 2016 #5
Exactly. They show up on off year elections. We don't Cyrano Oct 2016 #8
Democrats need to be reminded to vote every YEAR meow2u3 Oct 2016 #11
Off to a good start The2ndWheel Oct 2016 #7
They've demonized themselves Cyrano Oct 2016 #9
Every side says that about the other side The2ndWheel Oct 2016 #12
Every time Hillary "hits" Trump I wish she would say "And he's not alone!" librechik Oct 2016 #10

Cyrano

(15,060 posts)
4. They've gerrymandered us out of existence in many states
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:43 PM
Oct 2016

A vicious minority of state Republicans have used a hitch in democracy to thwart everything that is right, good and just.

And they will continue to do so as long as they can.

So what do we do if we can't vote them out of enough districts to turn the House of Representatives over to the Democrats? As long as they control the House, they can obstruct what most of us want to see come about.

A "free country," a democracy, is hard to establish and keep intact. The Republicans are experts at finding ways to subvert it and fuck it up for the rest of us.

So how do you suggest we get around their use of our established laws to drive them out of the realm of civilized discourse and activities?

If the tables were reversed, they would resort to "Second Amendment solutions." We won't.

So what do we do now?

imanamerican63

(13,814 posts)
6. I guess the point of giving up is what you are looking for?
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:52 PM
Oct 2016

I don't mean to be so cruel but it starts with us! We have to make the difference between us and them.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
3. I think we have to reach out to those who can be reached.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:39 PM
Oct 2016

I think we can reach some of the people who are voting for Trump because they like what he says about NAFTA and the TPP. This means that the Democrats would have to take the concerns of working-class people more seriously than they do now. For example, stop seeing more education as the answer to every economic problem in the country.

We can't reach the "deplorables" but we can reach some of the people in this country who feel left behind. This includes the many poor people who don't vote at all.

RexCasual

(171 posts)
5. You're right, of course
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:45 PM
Oct 2016

I believe a good place to start would be for the DNC to start reminding democrats, especially younger voters, that we need to show up at the polls every two years, not only when the White House is at stake. We have to finish what we start, and that means voting in 2018, as well. Those non-presidential elections have been killing us.

Cyrano

(15,060 posts)
8. Exactly. They show up on off year elections. We don't
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:06 PM
Oct 2016

It's past time that most of us Dems got our heads out of our asses and showed up to vote every two years rather than every four years.

The Tea Party nuts came to power in 2010, an off year election in which we didn't show up.

Most of us on DU get it. We need to pass it on to everyone we know: family, friends, acquaintances, neighbors, the person on the next bar stool, or a nearby pew, or anyone we run into who seems fed up and disillusioned with American insanity.

The solution is what it has always been: For enough sane people to show up and vote every single time.

meow2u3

(24,773 posts)
11. Democrats need to be reminded to vote every YEAR
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:26 PM
Oct 2016

Local elections matter, especially in judicial elections in states where judges are elected. Voting Democratic is the difference between putting in a judge who would temper justice with mercy vs. one who'd throw the book at someone just because of who you are.

Cyrano

(15,060 posts)
9. They've demonized themselves
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:13 PM
Oct 2016

All I'm doing is stating my observation of their behavior.

And I am not using the term "crushed" in a literal manner. I am saying that their so-called ideology has no place in a civilized, sane society and must be denounced and exposed for spreading poison into the waters of decency.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
12. Every side says that about the other side
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 02:07 PM
Oct 2016

Talk about human nature. That's human nature. We're tribal. Subjective. What's insane for one, is sane for another. All that good stuff.

And civilization is nothing more than a resource concentration mechanism. It has no magical powers.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
10. Every time Hillary "hits" Trump I wish she would say "And he's not alone!"
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:23 PM
Oct 2016

and then highlight the Repub platform and Trump endorsers.

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