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blm

(113,094 posts)
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:14 AM Oct 2016

There's been OpusDei mafia at FBI since the 90s. Remember Russian spy Robert Hanssen (R-Opus Dei)

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Anyone remember Robert Hanssen - Opus Dei Mafia spying for Russia?

Opus Dei has been sharing goals recently with Russian Orthodox Church now thoroughly corrupted and under Putin's iron-fisted political control.

Opus Dei, prostitutes, Russian spies. Hanssen was personally obsessed in finding Bill Clinton guilty.
Now we learn that there a number of personally obsessed agents at FBI looking for crimes to attach to HRC. I would bet that they are either part of the Opus Dei Mafia at the FBI, or they are RW partisans being manipulated and exploited by Opus Dei agents there.

Sorry - I don't see any of this as mere 'coincidence'.


Refresh your memories:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/nab-fbi-agent-spy-secrets-fed-moscow-fir-1-4m-article-1.904795

WASHINGTON - A veteran FBI agent and family man was revealed yesterday as a brazen turncoat who allegedly sold secrets to Moscow for $1.4 million and the rush of living a double life.

FBI Director Louis Freeh called the case "the most traitorous actions imaginable."

Robert Philip Hanssen, 56, a top operative in the FBI's counterintelligence division who worked for years in New York, was charged with crimes of espionage, which carry the death penalty, at his arraignment in U.S. District Court in suburban Virginia.

Hanssen, only the third FBI agent ever charged with spying, was held without

He allegedly fed the Soviets and later the Russians top-secret files that led to the execution of at least two Russian agents who had been "turned" by CIA operatives and the arrest of a third in his 15 years as a traitor, court papers said.>>>>>>>

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There's been OpusDei mafia at FBI since the 90s. Remember Russian spy Robert Hanssen (R-Opus Dei) (Original Post) blm Oct 2016 OP
All this time, I thought Hanssen was CIA LeftInTX Oct 2016 #1
I think CIA's distrust of FBI was valid, but, led to disrupted communication blm Oct 2016 #2
Ture and I think this will only make things between the two agencies worse. sarcasmo Nov 2016 #33
Kicking for younger DUers who probably never heard of Robert Hanssen. blm Oct 2016 #3
Antonin Scalia was rumored to belong to the Opus Dei Society. Fla Dem Oct 2016 #6
He was Opus Dei. blm Oct 2016 #7
Alito, Thomas, Roberts, quite possibly. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #11
Add FBI's Opus Dei Mafia to Putin's Russian Orthodox authoritarians. blm Nov 2016 #14
Are we talking about James Kallstrom on the fed end? Mc Mike Nov 2016 #15
Don't know, but, the MO sounds familiar. Methinks this ODmafia at the FBI has grown since Hanssen. blm Nov 2016 #16
This explains dRumpf's stupid and incomprehensible slam at the Al Smith dinner Mc Mike Nov 2016 #21
Whoa…I forgot about that Al Smith dinner slam - Everyone was shocked that he'd say blm Nov 2016 #22
And I believe that Putin took over the Rusian Orthodox Church. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #23
Exacty, and their unifier is hatred for others and their admiration for authoritarian fascists. blm Nov 2016 #24
We'd have to change the planet name to ''Drumpf", for that one ruler idea. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #28
I wonder if Opus Dei has malicious intent for Pope Francis who is NOT an Opus Dei Catholic. blm Nov 2016 #31
JP I found out about that the hard way, Mc Mike Nov 2016 #32
Banco Ambrosiano: Mc Mike Nov 2016 #34
Yip, that was the Great Conversion Fever for spooks, Robt NOVAKula, & INGRAHAM UTUSN Oct 2016 #4
Hoping younger DUers catch up to this group. blm Oct 2016 #5
Opus Dei is just another reason I left Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #8
Earthquake stopped me. blm Nov 2016 #9
Wondering how many FBI agents are working for KGB at this point? blm Nov 2016 #10
I Wanted To Make A Joke About.... Laxman Nov 2016 #12
Thank you. I never forget these things and view all events like this through blm Nov 2016 #13
HA HA HA This is the funnest thing I have ever read here. KWR65 Nov 2016 #17
So…..post your reasons why it couldn't possibly be plausible. We'll listen blm Nov 2016 #18
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blm

(113,094 posts)
2. I think CIA's distrust of FBI was valid, but, led to disrupted communication
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:39 AM
Oct 2016

between the two agencies that became tragic on 9-11-2001.

blm

(113,094 posts)
3. Kicking for younger DUers who probably never heard of Robert Hanssen.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:57 AM
Oct 2016

Or Opus Dei.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93085

Opus Dei Grows in U.S.
By DAVID RUPPE

Opus Dei may have been little known to most people before member and FBI agent Robert Hanssen was arrested and charged this year with spying for Russia.

Even with that arrest and the spotlight on the group, Opus Dei was considered a low-profile, conservative Roman Catholic organization.

But in a special investigation, ABCNEWS.com has found this relatively small, well-connected — some would say secretive — group appears to be quietly gaining strength within the U.S. Catholic Church.
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Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
11. Alito, Thomas, Roberts, quite possibly.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 07:02 PM
Nov 2016
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/01/30/jackboots-of-the-church/

"...A Senate staffer confirmed that the Judiciary Committee received numerous “notes and letters” stating that Judge Samuel Alito is a member of Opus Dei.

...

What adds additional interest to the role of Opus Dei and the Catholic Church in US political life is that for many years unconfirmed reports have linked Supreme Court Justices Scalia and Thomas to Opus Dei. In March, 2001, Newsweek reported that the wife of Justice Scalia, “attended Opus Dei’s spiritual functions.” Justice Scalia’s son, Father Paul Scalia, personally mediated the conversion of Justice Clarence Thomas to Roman Catholicism following his confirmation to the Supreme Court.

...

If Alito is confirmed, his presence will create a majority of five Catholic justices on the US Supreme Court. Justice Anthony Kennedy is a liberal Catholic, while the recently appointed Chief Justice, John Roberts, is another deeply conservative Catholic jurist whose devout religious views have also given rise to speculation involving Opus Dei. Alito would bring to four the total of ultra-conservative Catholics on the US Supreme Court, forming an alliance that would be legal, judicial and religious. "

blm

(113,094 posts)
14. Add FBI's Opus Dei Mafia to Putin's Russian Orthodox authoritarians.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 12:35 PM
Nov 2016

White nationalism on the rise in both countries and a Republican nominee owing Russian money men BIGTIME.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
15. Are we talking about James Kallstrom on the fed end?
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 05:44 PM
Nov 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512578000

Randi Rhodes is covering the fact that Kallstrom's "marine charity" is the one that dRUmpf finally coughed up his veteran's donation to, once the WaPo embarrassed him enough for lying and not donating to any vets org, after his big mouthed bragging about his HYUUGE "$6 million" photo-op fundraiser "for vets".

Marine Corp - Law Enforcement Foundation
http://wonkette.com/602271/donald-trump-lies-about-donations-to-vets-charities-will-debate-bernie-sanders-for-charity

blm

(113,094 posts)
16. Don't know, but, the MO sounds familiar. Methinks this ODmafia at the FBI has grown since Hanssen.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:55 PM
Nov 2016

Key to remember is that Hanssen was also described as obsessive in targeting Bill Clinton for criminal probes that were utter nonsense, but he would not stop. Then he was exposed spending lots of time with prostitutes and betraying national secrets to his Russian handlers. CIA had two of their carefully groomed Russian assets murdered and some 'disappeared' because Hanssen exposed them. I think this is why some career professionals at CIA have a complete distrust of FBI.

I have heard that Putin has cultivated hierarchy in Russian Orthodox Church with deliberation - remember before Olympics when every aspect of Russia 'society' had open season on gays? Bands of white nationalists control the streets there and are completely loyal to Putin. I just don't see it merely as coincidence that these particular factions in this country and in Russia are acting similarly at this point.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
21. This explains dRumpf's stupid and incomprehensible slam at the Al Smith dinner
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:42 AM
Nov 2016

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about how Clinton "hates Catholics", probably. He's telegraphed what he believes his campaign's "devastating" punches are going to be, before. Because they brief him, and he's pretty stupid and cocky and big mouthed, like li'l bush.

Maddow just covered the NY FBI field office's breitbart fans, pushing for an investigation of Sec. Clinton, based on some stupid Peter Schweizer tabloid syle "expose" book. Hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer is the biggest funder of dRumpf, he funds the "Keep the Promise" super pac and is breitbart's biggest funder. The leaders (Bannon, Conaway, Bossie) of those two orgs all are top people inside the dRumpf campaign, now. Bannon and Conaway are also members of the Council for National Policy:
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/08/31/revealed-conway-bannon-members-secretive-group
Mercer funds the Government Accountability Institute, run by Bannon and Peter Schweizer, Schweizer is also a Breitbart senior editor. The question is whether Robert Mercer is Opus Dei.

I've been pointing out Opus Dei as bad guys on this site for years, because I'm a catholic and hate nazi cultists. Your info on a specific sub grouping of cultist Feds is new to me, and interesting. I can't add any new info on that section of Fed cultists, though.

Some people don't know Opus Dei at all, or think its adherents are like that self flagellating albino guy that chased mullet-hairdoo-ed Tom Hanks around in that stupid Dan Brown movie. Easy to spot, don't blend in well in crowds. But if they're wearing a suit and flashing an FBI badge, Justice needs to clean house pronto. OPR investigations, firings, and jailings need to take place.

Clarence Thomas went to a Jesuit run institution for his Bachelors, I went there too, much later. I think he got his nickname "Slappy" there. There were 2 opposing factions there, extreme righties and Liberation Theologists. It's not too hard to guess which side Slappy has always been on, but reports about his Opus Dei involvment say that Scalia personally mediated Thomas's conversion to Catholicism after Thomas got confirmed to the Supreme Court. Decades later. Bullhockey.

In the '80's, the American Bishops stood against the extreme right wing push coming from JP II and Ratzinger, his Doctrine Office (the Inquisition's modern incarnation) enforcer. After decades of Ratzinger and JP II rule, those US Bishops who'd come from Vatican II have been gradually replaced by crazy right wingers. Just like the magic those 2 popes worked on the US bishops, they targeted and eliminated Jesuit leaders and put their own people in. They replaced General Kolvenbach, the head of the order, with General Nicholas. They got rid of the head of the Jesuit newspaper, Father Tom Reese, and elevated John Foster Dulles' son, Avery Dulles, SJ, to the rank of Cardinal. When Ratzinger became Pope, he issued a very public slapdown to Latin American Lib Theologians in the church, green lighting anything certain other elements in the church might want to do to them.

Without the investigations by the FBI, Justice Dept., and DEA, a lot of aspects of the CIA's arms-drugs-terrorist funding in Iran Contra would have gone un abated, so the "good and bad" lines between the FBI and CIA aren't so clearly drawn. There are good factions and bad ones in both of them, the good one in the CIA was ridiculously ineffective at dealing with the Allen Dulles end.

Hoover had people helping him run things, a bizarre little hard core at the top of his junta, of blackmailably gay people, like Clyde Tolson and Cartha DeLoach. Apparently, his outfit was run along the same lines as the World Wrestling Federation. (Funny to see Hulk Hogan backing dRumpf.)

There were plenty of terrible anti-Democracy things Hoover and his tightly controlled Bureau did. But Hoover died in 5/72, Truman in 12/72, and Johnson in 1/73. They were all old men, and sometimes old men die, but when the mob is discussing whether or not to allow a hit on a top organized crime leader, the other leaders say "sometimes it's better if old men die." All 3 of those old men were leaders who were opposed to the bush-Nixon-Dulles crowd.

Hoover had been worried that the CIA would take over the FBI, but when he died Patrick Gray from Naval Intel took over the Feds.

blm

(113,094 posts)
22. Whoa…I forgot about that Al Smith dinner slam - Everyone was shocked that he'd say
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:46 AM
Nov 2016

something so pointedly evil and grossly unfair.

But he was speaking to another audience, perhaps.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
23. And I believe that Putin took over the Rusian Orthodox Church.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:50 AM
Nov 2016

But they're just one of the tools he uses. To me, there is no "CIA good - FBI bad" clearly delineated dichotomy. And there is a connection between non-Catholic, non Opus Dei alt-right hackers here and Putin's "non-Orthodox Christian" intel agency hackers over there. Nazis in bed with commies, religious or not. Anti-catholic and "anti-commie" Birchers here in bed with the top world commie Putin's people there.

blm

(113,094 posts)
24. Exacty, and their unifier is hatred for others and their admiration for authoritarian fascists.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 09:24 AM
Nov 2016

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Russian Orthodox Church and Putin applauded the roving gangs of white nationalists who were openly beating gays and minorities on the streets.

See, if only the world would allow ONE ruler over all with strict limitation on freedoms, then the world will be saved. Heh…Opus Dei at the FBI - fvck those fvckers.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
28. We'd have to change the planet name to ''Drumpf", for that one ruler idea.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:34 PM
Nov 2016

Check out P2 (propaganda due) connections to Opus Dei in Italy.

Spanish Opus Dei was heavily involved in the Ratline, and so were the Opus Dei people in Vatican City.
Santorum's family were allegedly Communist Partisans in Italy during WWII, but in fact they were fascist infiltrators and emigrated to America after the war.

I'd bet my bottom dollar that Opus Dei hung Robert Calvi from Blackfriars Bridge, with his feet dangling in the stream. They tried to put it off on Protestant English secret societies, by choosing that location, and symbolic death.

I'm not de railing the NY FBI opus dei discussion, please add more info when you can.

blm

(113,094 posts)
31. I wonder if Opus Dei has malicious intent for Pope Francis who is NOT an Opus Dei Catholic.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:49 PM
Nov 2016

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Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
32. JP I found out about that the hard way,
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 08:06 PM
Nov 2016

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33 days into his Papacy. Having a second pope ("anti-pope&quot squatting in Vatican city is a definite threat to Francis.

+, as a churchgoing catholic, I have to observe that dickhead Benedict screwed up the order of mass, it hadn't been changed since John 23 let catholics have a non-latin mass. Ratzinger looks like a Charles Addams cartoon, with his black circled eyes, looks like he gets make up tips from a silent movie villain from the golden age of Hollywood.

I recall one of the Swiss Guard went nuts with his gun in Vatican City, under former IG Farben chemical salesman / second pope John Paul. I'm not going to dig up the citation for that, I remember it. It happened.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
34. Banco Ambrosiano:
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 07:26 AM
Nov 2016

" In 1981, police raided the office of Propaganda Due Masonic lodge to apprehend the Worshipful Master Licio Gelli and uncover further evidence against Roberto Calvi. Calvi was arrested, put on trial, and sentenced to four years in prison. However, he was released pending an appeal and retained his position at the bank. Other alarming developments followed: Carlo de Benedetti of Olivetti bought into the bank and became deputy chairman, only to leave two months later after receiving Mafia threats and lack of co-operation from Calvi. His replacement, a longtime employee named Roberto Rosone, was wounded in a Mafia shooting incident. The criminal organization responsible for this shooting was the Banda della Magliana (Magliana Gang) which had taken over Rome's underworld in the late 1970s, and has been related to various political events of the anni di piombo (years of lead).

In 1982, it was discovered that the bank was unable to account for $1.287 billion (equivalent to $3.16 billion in present-day terms). Calvi fled the country on a false passport, and Rosone arranged for the Bank of Italy to take over. Calvi's personal secretary, Graziella Corrocher, left a note denouncing Calvi before leaping to her death from her office window. Calvi's body was found hanging from Blackfriars Bridge in London on June 18.

...

Roberto Calvi's 1982 murder

David Yallop believes that Calvi, with the assistance of P2, may have been responsible for the death of Albino Luciani who, as Pope John Paul I, was planning a reform of Vatican finances. This is one of many conspiracy theories about Luciani, who died of a heart attack. However, Calvi's family maintains that he was an honest man manipulated by others. Their perspective informs Robert Hutchison's 1997 book Their Kingdom Come: Inside the Secret World of Opus Dei. According to the magistrates who indicted Licio Gelli, P2's headmaster, and Giuseppe Calò for Calvi's murder, Gelli would have ordered his death to punish him for embezzlement of his and the mafia's money, while the mafia wanted to stop him from revealing the way Calvi helped it in money laundering. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banco_Ambrosiano


Licio Gelli and Stefano Delle Chiaie:

" Stefano Delle Chiaie (born 13 September 1936 in Caserta) is a neofascist Italian activist (founder of Avanguardia Nazionale, 1960, member of Ordine Nuovo, and founder of Lega nazionalpopolare, 1991). He went on to become a wanted man worldwide, suspected of involvement in Italy's strategy of tension, but was acquitted. He was a friend of Licio Gelli, grandmaster of P2 masonic lodge. He was suspected of involvement in South America's Operation Condor, but was acquitted. He is known by his nickname caccola (shorty) as he is five feet tall - although he states that originally, the nickname came from his very young involvement, at age 14, in the Italian Social Movement (MSI, a neo-fascist party founded after the war);[1] the name is not particularly flattering as caccola, in Italian, also means "booger".
...

Founder of Avanguardia Nazionale in 1960

Delle Chiaie began as member of the Italian Social Movement (MSI), a neo-fascist party. However he rejected the participation of the MSI in elections, preferring to take the battle to the streets. After participating to the foundation of the Centri Studi Ordine Nuovo with members of the MSI, he created the small Gruppi di Azione Rivoluzionari (GAR) at the end of the 1950s. Involved in various political actions, such as protesting against Eisenhower's visit to Italy or fighting against Italian Communist Party members, he already maintained close international links, notably with the Austrian Konrad Windisch, leader of the neo-Nazi Kameradschaftsring Nationaler Jugendverbände (KNJ).[2] He then formed, in 1960, the National Vanguard ("Avanguardia Nazionale&quot as a street-fighting group. Around this time, he also became a member of the secret P2 Masonic Lodge. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefano_Delle_Chiaie


Licio Gelli and Opus Dei:

" Gelli's relationship with (Klaus) Barbie would continue well into the early 1980s, by which time the former Gestapo chief was deeply entrenched in Bolivia. Ironically, Barbie had been tasked with suppressing Freemasonry in Holland when he was sent there in early 1940. By all accounts he managed this task with ruthless efficiency. But moving along.

Also during World War II Gelli seems to have made contact with the founder of another secret organization that crops up time and again in the saga of P2. The individual in question was Josemaria Escriva and the secret society was Opus Dei. Reportedly the ties Gelli developed with either were quite beneficial, especially during Gelli's years aiding the "Ratlines."

...

"Gelli's Rat Line funneled Nazis to South America. Though Gelli gets the historical credit because he headed it up, the Rat Line was an Opus Dei scheme of which Gelli was an operations officer.
In 1946, Escriva and Gelli enlisted Carlos Fuldner into the ranks of Opus Dei. Fuldner had been an officer in Hitler's SSGuard and an old friend of Escriva, the reason why Escriva was able to make his remark in 1941 'Hitler will take care of the Jews...' Only the SS Guard knew what was going on in the death camps at that time.
Gelli and Fuldner ran rescue efforts from Madrid to Argentina for Nazi war criminal seeking refuge. Among those rescued were Adolf Eichmann and Joseph Mengele though there are conflicting reports the latter may have escaped through the Pius XII Rat Line – a network of monasteries from Poland to Naples to South America."

(Murder in the Vatican, Lucien Gregoire, pgs. 128) "

http://visupview.blogspot.com/2015/05/propaganda-due-strange-and-terrible.html

UTUSN

(70,742 posts)
4. Yip, that was the Great Conversion Fever for spooks, Robt NOVAKula, & INGRAHAM
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:58 AM
Oct 2016

After she converted, INGRAHAM was quiet for months or a year or two, and when she resurfaced I expected to see some kind of SPIRITUAL difference - some bits of Christ-like peace, humility, above all kindness and mercy toward others - but *NOTHING*. It was the same old bile. When I saw the advertisement below on her website complete with plunging neckline, I called The Little Sisters of the Poor to ask whether a convert should be more spiritual than before, and the Sister said she had never heard of INGRAHAM or of any donation from her and that she would research.

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blm

(113,094 posts)
10. Wondering how many FBI agents are working for KGB at this point?
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 06:31 PM
Nov 2016

Because NOTHING going on at the FBI seems normal at this point.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
12. I Wanted To Make A Joke About....
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:32 PM
Nov 2016

nobody expecting the Spanish Inquisition but this just isn't funny. I think you're theory isn't too far-fetched. Hanssen did have an axe to grind with Hillary Clinton and with women who did not "know their place" in general. I'm sure he wasn't alone in his sentiments. Republicans (rabid anti-Clinton Republicans at that) including Rick Santorum, Robert H. Bork, Robert D. Novak and Lawrence Kudlow were members. Louis Freeh was connected with Opus Dei himself. I suppose this is possible. They are zealous adherents to the teachings recruited by Father McCloskey.

On a lighter note:



blm

(113,094 posts)
13. Thank you. I never forget these things and view all events like this through
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 09:49 PM
Nov 2016

a lens that most people ignore.

I am definitely not a coincidence theorist.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
17. HA HA HA This is the funnest thing I have ever read here.
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:22 PM
Nov 2016

There is A Mormon mafia in the FBI too!

blm

(113,094 posts)
18. So…..post your reasons why it couldn't possibly be plausible. We'll listen
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 09:49 PM
Nov 2016

since we can be openminded to new ideas and expressions. Especially if you can add some facts to bolster your view.

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