Donnie Dipshit said one thing in this debate that was true and I agree with

[Feeling the Bern]

The legal immigration system in this country sucks, is inefficient and is broken.

It shouldn't take seven years to get citizenship. . .and it shouldn't two-to-five years to get a green card that isn't sponsored through an HB1 visa.

I know this for a fact. . .my wife and I are going through the bullshit of getting her green card now (she is a Chinese national) and the State Department, INS and the others agencies we need to deal with are just incomprehensible in their red tape, bullshit and inability to be helpful. They literally fight every step of the way. She's doing it through a K3 spouse visa.

BUT. . .if she did it through a work visa (HB-1), it would talk three months.

Then there's the insane fees. It will cost close to $3000 to get her green card. Citizenship costs $500. This is disgusting.

We need comprehensive LEGAL immigration reform.

[jberryhill]

1. It is broken because the GOP rejected their own proposals

There was general agreement on a lot of points, but they hunkered down and decided that it was better not to give Obama a "win".

[skylucy]

2. Totally agree. I also know of people going through exactly the same thing as you and

your wife. It is ridiculous!

[Warpy]

3. They aren't any better if you're coming from Canada or the UK

if the horror stories online friends have told me are true. Most of them have gotten immigration lawyers to help them navigate the maze of bullshit, jacking the price way over $3000. I don't know if it helped all that much.

[Feeling the Bern]

4. Read my original post on this from last year

It explains everything about the bullshit of Legal Immigration. I understand why people go it illegally. It's just easier and cheaper.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027483647

[awoke_in_2003]

5. Much cheaper to immigrate to US from Canada

than the other way around. Same thing with European countries, which are very cost prohibitive.

[duncang]

6. My son-in-law from Scotland same thing

I can't even imagine what would happen if he got his way. Legal immigration would come to a screeching halt completely. He would have to divert resources to do the "extreme vetting" and immigration would be doomed.

[Dorian Gray]

7. My first husband was British

and we went through all sorts of cattle calls to get his permission to leave the country when his mother died. To get his green card. To get his citizenship. it was appalling.

When I lived over there, it took about thirty minutes in the embassy to get my papers. And I was free to travel as much as I wanted.