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Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:16 PM Oct 2016

As president, Hillary will: Automatically register voters.

Voting rights: We should be making it easier to vote, not harder.

As president, Hillary will:

Automatically register voters. Hillary will work so that every citizen is automatically registered to vote when they turn 18, unless they opt out, and make sure that voter registration rolls are accurate and secure.

Repair the Voting Rights Act. Hillary will fight to restore the portions of the Voting Rights Act that were struck down by the Supreme Court to make sure that all citizens enjoy the full protections they deserve—especially in states where they have been disproportionately targeted by laws that restrict voting access to the polls. She will fight back against harmful restrictions on voting across the country, so that minority voters, young people, low-income voters, seniors, and women are equally capable as others at expressing their voices and their votes in our democracy.

Set a national standard for early voting. In an effort to reduce long lines and give more people with family or work obligations an opportunity to vote, Hillary will set a national standard for early voting, giving voters at least 20 days to vote in the evenings or on weekends before election day.

Restore voting rights. Americans who have paid their debts to society and have served their sentences should have the right to vote, and Hillary will support legislation to make sure their voting rights are restored.

Take action. Hillary will implement the recommendations of the president’s bipartisan commission to improve voting.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/voting-rights/






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As president, Hillary will: Automatically register voters. (Original Post) Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 OP
This is so long overdue. LisaM Oct 2016 #1
so long overdue! everyone who's not in prison should be allowed to vote, easily! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #25
Good! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #2
How much of this is constitutional? davidn3600 Oct 2016 #3
That about sums it up. Exilednight Oct 2016 #7
I think it would require a constitutional amendment loyalsister Oct 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #9
Thank you for outing yourself. n/t pnwmom Oct 2016 #12
You were alerted on this. edbermac Oct 2016 #14
They have a little more to say when it involves federal elections. LiberalFighter Oct 2016 #20
The Motor Voter Act is constitutional Peaches999 Oct 2016 #21
If a state wants to pass that, it's fine. But the federal government doesn't control the voter rolls davidn3600 Oct 2016 #22
Or liberal SCOTUS justices that can be reasonable. joshcryer Oct 2016 #23
Great! Jason1961 Oct 2016 #4
We do need national voter standards. But damn, will there ever be resistance against it. tonyt53 Oct 2016 #5
Shit, It would be all hands on deck to defeat any attempt at this by republicans.......... Old Vet Oct 2016 #6
Elections are left to states for good reason. loyalsister Oct 2016 #10
Set the standard awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #24
If this is her only accomplishment, it would be a huge win. Nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2016 #11
No thank you; the government's history of "accurate & secure" databases is a joke. MadDAsHell Oct 2016 #13
How are the databases at Target doing these days? bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #15
Exactly; all databases are vulnerable. Why exactly then would we allow the govt to do this? nt MadDAsHell Oct 2016 #16
Because private industry can't do it any better bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #17
Wait, you admit both are likely to leak/be hacked, but still want to do this? MadDAsHell Oct 2016 #18
Not if you want to support full democracy where everyone votes bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #19
Oregon does it, without any problem bhikkhu Oct 2016 #30
The federal government should tie transportation funding to voter registration. Massacure Oct 2016 #26
This would be the way to do it Proud Public Servant Oct 2016 #27
Great idea loyalsister Oct 2016 #28
We do that in Oregon and it works well bhikkhu Oct 2016 #29
I'd like to believe this. Not holding my breath. lindysalsagal Oct 2016 #31

LisaM

(27,832 posts)
1. This is so long overdue.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:19 PM
Oct 2016

And it can effectively counter all the voter suppression techniques, which seem to be the last gasp of the GOP.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,857 posts)
2. Good!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:24 PM
Oct 2016

To be honest, I even think convicted felons should be allowed to vote, especially if they're out of prison and being taxed. No taxation without representation! Remember that, Americans?

It's not very high on my "wish list" of changes, but I'd like to see it in principle.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
3. How much of this is constitutional?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:33 PM
Oct 2016

To a certain extent, the states have a right to run their own elections without interference of the federal government. It's part of the separation of powers. The only time the Supreme Court has allowed the federal government to get involved is when racial discrimination is occurring (ie: Voter Rights Act) or in the case of Bush vs Gore.

All this sounds great, but not sure how much is going to stick. The federal government doesn't control the voter rolls. And I am not so sure the Supreme Court is going to allow them to assume that control without some type of constitutional amendment.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
8. I think it would require a constitutional amendment
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:33 PM
Oct 2016

There are restrictions on interference and what states cannot do, but there is no affirmative right to vote in the constitution. I think that would have to change for registration to be automatic.

Response to davidn3600 (Reply #3)

 

Peaches999

(118 posts)
21. The Motor Voter Act is constitutional
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:11 PM
Oct 2016

I thought you were going to say automatic registration is unconstitutional. I don't think that is either.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
22. If a state wants to pass that, it's fine. But the federal government doesn't control the voter rolls
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:26 PM
Oct 2016

The Motor Voter Act doesn't dictate deadlines or who is eligible to vote. It only streamlines the registration procedures to include motor vehicle departments. What Hillary is proposing here is a massive overhaul of election laws. in the way the states conduct their elections. You are essentially taking power away from the states and placing the power of voter registration in the hands of the federal government.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. But you would need a Constitutional amendment that gives the federal government the power to make such laws. Right now, the federal government cannot mandate registration to everyone or provide 20 days of early voting or mandate criminals can vote. That's a state right. And that's not going to fly even in a liberal supreme court because it just isn't in line with Constitutional law.

Jason1961

(413 posts)
4. Great!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:36 PM
Oct 2016

This will stop almost all voter suppression tactics of the the Republican Party.

With the demographics changing the way they are and considering what Trump as done to the Republican Party we might not lose another Presidential Election for a generation!

They've been going down hill for awhile now though, if you look at 2000 when Gore got the vote of the people and Bush got the vote of the EC it was a clear sign that the Republican Party was sinking on a National Level. It was a "change" election and he still lost the vote count. 2004 He won reelection but that was due in large part that as the incumbent he had a significant advantage, and America was still choking on "Patriotism" and "Freedom Fries" so the lies from the Swift Boat group really hurt him (personally and in the election). Once Obama swept in 2008 and again in 2012 the end was here (not near) for them.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
6. Shit, It would be all hands on deck to defeat any attempt at this by republicans..........
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:11 PM
Oct 2016

Although it would be a great idea, Honestly the odds of a bill automatically registering citizens would be toast.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. Elections are left to states for good reason.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:39 PM
Oct 2016

School board, county, city council, and special elections do not always align with national elections. Forcing a change so that they all do would definitely violate the priciple of self government tailored to locales. I'm not talking about states rights in the context republicans use it. I'm saying that what works in some states doesn't work in others in terms of process.

It would wreak havoc if suddenly, all of our city election standards were wiped out because in my area, they are elected in off years.
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
24. Set the standard
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 08:52 PM
Oct 2016

for federal level elections, and let the states do their own dumbass thing for state and local government.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
13. No thank you; the government's history of "accurate & secure" databases is a joke.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 04:22 PM
Oct 2016

Automatically registering voters is a great idea. But I have exactly zero faith in our government's ability to maintain a secure database of such information.

The federal government created and enforces HIPAA to allegedly enforce the proper protection of protected health information (PHI).

You know which types of entities regularly have the most breaches of PHI? Local, state, and federal government agencies.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
18. Wait, you admit both are likely to leak/be hacked, but still want to do this?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 05:10 PM
Oct 2016

You realize "neither" is an option too, right?

bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)
19. Not if you want to support full democracy where everyone votes
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 05:16 PM
Oct 2016

Someone has to do it. May as well be an enduring entity like the federal
government, who will likely use some private contractors anyway.

Of course if you're against democracy - universal suffrage - that's not a good choice

bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
30. Oregon does it, without any problem
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:15 PM
Oct 2016

I can't imagine a "government databases aren't secure" argument against voting leading to anything remotely worthwhile. How are we to vote at all, then? If you don't think the government can be trusted to register voters or manage the database of voters, who should do it?

Massacure

(7,526 posts)
26. The federal government should tie transportation funding to voter registration.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:02 PM
Oct 2016

When someone goes to get/renew their drivers license or id card, each state's DMV should be required to offer to register that person to vote. If they do not, yank the states federal transportation funding.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
28. Great idea
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:53 PM
Oct 2016

If a state doesn't want people who are too poor to own a car to vote, all they have to do is NOT follow those guidelines and then use the lack of funds to justify shutting down public transit.

bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
29. We do that in Oregon and it works well
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:11 PM
Oct 2016

Why not? We have ballot by mail, 70% or so voter participation even in the mid-terms, and no reports I have ever heard of vote fraud.

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