Next time I see Seralini used as a "source" in anti-GMO articles, I'll remember this.

[Archae]

From an article posted in Skeptics:

"Meanwhile, Gilles-Éric Séralini sells homeopathic medicine to detox the body from “GMO poisons”

Speaks volumes.

[CentralMass]

1. I just Googled the gentlemen to see if I could find some information.

What came up was link after link disparaging him. It would appear that there is quite a bit of energy being put into discrediting him. My skeptical nature leads me to think that he must be on to something.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

4. Most skeptics disagree with Seralini and his flawed and discredited study.

But if you wanna believe in his woo, so be it.

[MattBaggins]

7. There is a homeless guy

Wandering around my city mumbling about the end of the world. Everyone says he has dementia. Since everyone is against him, my sceptical mind says he must be on to something.

[womanofthehills]

12. Actually, I could find no credible sight with this information

Seralini is a researcher and might have done some research for the company. There is no reference anywhere that Seralini is selling anything.

[MattBaggins]

20. Pages of his workung for a grifter company

And you pretend there is nothing to see

[womanofthehills]

22. From "Skeptics" - give me a break

[Major Nikon]

30. Is Seralini himself credible enough for you?

Funding: The authors have received funding for this and earlier research from CRIIGEN, the Foundation Lea Nature and Malongo, the JMG Foundation and Foundations Charles Léopold Mayer for the Progress of Humankind, Nature Vivante, Denis Guichard, Institute Bio Forschung Austria, and the Sustainable Food Alliance. The laboratory received funding from Sevene Pharma in the last five years to study the detoxifying capacity of plant extracts on Roundup residues, bisphenol A and atrazin. Prof Seralini participated in and received payment for a lecture organized by Sevene Pharma.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0128429

In other words Seralini's research is funded by Sevene Pharma (and other dubious sources). He's also a paid consultant for Sevene, and promotes their homeoquackery products, thinly disguised as "research".

Kinda funny how you are able to find all sorts of the most ridiculous GMO associations, but you can't seem to find even the most obvious conflict of interest associations with your hero, Seralini, even when they are quite easy to locate. I guess if your favorite crank magnet sources, Globalresearch, or Food Babe doesn't have it you are oblivious.

[mythology]

24. That's some specious logic

There are lots of people who disparage him because he's a nut. I can find lots of people who disparage Trump because he's a racist. sexist, bigoted, sexual assaulter. Often people who are disparaged because they are wrong.

[Achilleaze]

2. So you don't care that courts have found in his favor three times in a row

convicting GMO corp operatives of having libeled him and his research showing that GMOs can provoke cancerous tumors in rats?

The original study was approved and published in a peer-reviewed journal. Then retracted later, immediately after a Monsanto operative was hastily inserted as an "editor." That travesty of so-called "science" preceded the full scale GMO Chemical Corporate attacks on Seralini - the same attack campaigns that three courts have found guilty of vicious libel of Seralini, his solid reputation as an outstanding scientist, and his breakthrough study on the danger of GMOs?

Naturally there are a lot of GMO shills still attacking Seralini. But the courts are steadily slapping the GMO shills down. As they should.

Pay no attention to the ongoing wave attacks on Seralini.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

5. I wasn't aware that courts were scientific organizations.

Naturally, there are a lot of anti-GMO troglodytes are out shilling for discredited junk science.

Easier to believe that 99% of all scientists are part of some vast conspiracy than it is to believe that 1% are absolute quacks. Reminds me of global warming denialists, anti-vaxxers, and flouride whackos.

[Archae]

11. Heck, I never heard of Seralini taking anyone TO court over this.

I have serious doubts he even "won" once.

[womanofthehills]

17. Many American lawyers have Seralini's research on their webpages - it's being used in court

I can't post the links or I might be advocating for individual lawyers. Search - GMO/glyphosate injury lawyers and Seralini. Lawyers' websites quoting Seralini's research will come up.

Seralini's research is being used by American lawyers in glyphosate injury lawsuits.

[MattBaggins]

23. Ambulance chasers are using junk science

To make a buck

News at 11

[Major Nikon]

31. You do realize even the IARC didn't use his research because it was complete shit, yes?

[MattBaggins]

8. Seralini sells homeopathic garbage

Outstanding scientists do not promote bullshit such as homeopathy.

[womanofthehills]

16. Seralini does not sell homeopathic anything

[womanofthehills]

13. I guess some here prefer Monsanto's 90 day studies to Seralini's 2 yr studies with the same rats

Monsanto's studies were 90 days - Seralini's studies were 2 years (700 days) - so if Monsanto is so upset over this why doesn't Monsanto (or now Bayer) do a 700 day study???? The same rats were used by Monsanto and Seralini (strain Sprague-Dawley)

The Monsanto study – and a bevy of other industry-sponsored publications – had all loudly proclaimed Roundup/glyphosate to be completely safe, except for target plants.

But Séralini, while duplicating the early Monsanto study, also did something radically different from what the industry-friendly researchers had done – something most scientists had been advocating for decades.

He carried out a full life-time study.

He extended the duration of his research from 90 days, the interval used by Monsanto, to over 700 days – the entire lifetime of his experimental animals. Instead of looking just for short-term harms of the pesticide, which obviously minimize the likelihood of any harms, he waited patiently to see if there were longer term effects.
In human terms, it’s like the difference between looking for liver problems in a crowd of teenagers after a couple of drunken house parties, or studying a group of alcoholics after a lifetime of boozing.
http://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/07/04/opinion/last-roundup

[Achilleaze]

14. Yes. Seralini did real science

Whereas the corporate GMO Chemical financial interests did "corporate science." No wonder there has been a full-scale, deliberately malicious corporate troll campaign to try and discredit him and his research.

Seralini attackers are the equivalent of the Republican Trump trolls out there muddying the waters with systematic and repeated attacks.

We should all be thankful that the courts have - on three separate occasions - slapped down the corporate troll operatives who defamed and libeled him.

[NickB79]

27. Real science that was withdrawn and only republished in a junk journal?

And then shredded by almost every other researcher in the field?

https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/06/24/republished-retracted-seralini-corn-rat-study-faces-harsh-criticism-from-scientists/

[Major Nikon]

32. Seralini rule

http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2013/06/the-seralini-rule-gmo-bogus-study.html

[Archae]

21. How about that, Seralini sued ONCE, and no ruling on the science was made.

Only the fact the guy being sued has ties to agriculture industries.

From Wikipedia:

"In 2010, Séralini sued University of Paris VII Marc Fellous (fr), president of the French Association of Plant Biotechnology (fr) and the Association, for libel, claiming that they had unjustly criticized his scientific ability and his research because of its funder, Greenpeace. The judge ruled that because Fellous and other critics had financial ties to the agricultural biotechnology industry, their charge about the Greenpeace funding was defamatory, but refused to rule on the scientific matter. Fellous was fined 1000 euros. Séralini was awarded a symbolic 1 euro in damages and court costs.[41]"

Meanwhile Seralini is selling BULLSHIT, "homeopathic remedies" to "detox from GMO's."

[Major Nikon]

33. Wakefield (another crank hero), also won in court

Naturally the anti-vaxxers (many of which are also anti-GMO), also claimed his favorable court action vindicated him. Meanwhile back in the world most call reality, Wakefield and Seralini are still nothing more than quacks who faked research while being paid by special interests.

[NickB79]

26. You think courts are the equivalent to scientific bodies of study?

Because a court in Italy recently tried to IMPRISON 7 scientists for the "crime" of failing to predict an earthquake.

Bear in mind that it is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to predict with relative certainty an earthquake with modern technology.

These are the courts you trust so much for accurate science?

http://gizmodo.com/manslaughter-conviction-for-italian-earthquake-scientis-1657082823

In 2012, the Italian courts handed down a decision that you could say sent shockwaves across the world. Seven Italian scientists were sentenced to six years in prison. Their crime? Failing to warn the public about earthquake risks right before a magnitude 6.3 quake killed 309 people. Today, six of those convictions were overturned.

[upaloopa]

3. We all have the right to decide what we eat,

You like GMOs fine eat them. I don't fine I will try my best not to eat them.

I am not for giving the world's food supply to Monsanto.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

6. It's pretty much the only "source" they've got.

I mean, if you wanna pay twice as much for food, so be it. Have at it. But don't try and justify it with junk science.

[MattBaggins]

9. Twice as much?

Have you not seen the $30 organic, all natural, free range, gmo free, antibiotic free milk from heirloom goats that were hand fed, massaged daily, and detoxed with homeopathic arnica and acupuncture?

[Dr Hobbitstein]

10. Something about a fool and his money... nt

[womanofthehills]

18. US wheat supply sprayed with glyphosate days before harvest for desiccating

It's hard to find any wheat in USA without glyphosate. Even organic tested as having glyphosate - however, less glyphosate than non organic. Used more in northern states esp. North Dakota and South Dakota. Could this be the gluten problem - ingesting Roundup.

“Farmers there often had trouble getting wheat and barley to dry evenly so they can start harvesting. So they came up with the idea to kill the crop (with glyphosate) one to two weeks before harvest to accelerate the drying down of the grain," he said.

The pre-harvest use of glyphosate allows farmers to harvest crops as much as two weeks earlier than they normally would, an advantage in northern, colder regions.

The practice spread to wheat-growing areas of North America such as the upper Midwestern U.S. and Canadian provinces such as Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

“Desiccation is done primarily in years where conditions are wet and the crop is slow to dry down," Joel Ransom, an agronomist at North Dakota State University, said.

http://www.ecowatch.com/why-is-glyphosate-sprayed-on-crops-right-before-harvest-1882187755.html

[Major Nikon]

34. Food Babe says so it must be true

Then again she thinks running water through a blender makes it healthier.

[womanofthehills]

15. Actually, even paying more for organic (which I do) doesn't help because organic also has glyphosate

Did you see the internal emails from the FDA on honey.

"In the records released by the FDA, one internal email describes trouble locating honey that doesn’t contain glyphosate: “It is difficult to find blank honey that does not contain residue. I collect about 10 samples of honey in the market and they all contain glyphosate,” states an FDA researcher. Even “organic mountain honey” contained low concentrations of glyphosate, the FDA documents show. "

The Food and Drug Administration, under public pressure to start testing samples of U.S. food for the presence of a pesticide that has been linked to cancer, has some early findings that are not so sweet.

In examining honey samples from various locations in the United States, the FDA has found fresh evidence that residues of the weed killer called glyphosate can be pervasive - found even in a food that is not produced with the use of glyphosate. All of the samples the FDA tested in a recent examination contained glyphosate residues, and some of the honey showed residue levels double the limit allowed in the European Union, according to documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request. There is no legal tolerance level for glyphosate in honey in the United States.

Even though the FDA annually examines foods for residues of many pesticides, it has skipped testing for glyphosate residues for decades. It was only in February of this year that the agency said it would start some glyphosate residues analysis. That came after many independent researchers started conducting their own testing and found glyphosate in an array of food products, including flour, cereal, and oatmeal. The government and Monsanto have maintained that any glyphosate residues in food would be minimal enough to be safe. But critics say without robust testing, glyphosate levels in food are not known. And they say that even trace amounts may be harmful because they are likely consumed so regularly in many foods.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carey-gillam/fda-finds-monsantos-weed_b_12008680.html

[Major Nikon]

35. OCA says so it must be true

They also think 9/11 was an inside job, vaccines cause autism, and homeoquakery is real medicine.

[womanofthehills]

19. So why would making a choice to eat the cleanest food you could find be junk science?

Some Whole Food & Vitamin Cottage food prices for organic food in Albuquerque, NM - definitely not twice as much.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

25. Thanks for proving my point.

I pay 99 cents for a lb of conventional carrots, 99 cents for a head of celery, an 59 cents for Greek yogurt. And you pay twice as much. Fools and their money.

There is ZERO nutritional difference between conventional and organic produce, no matter what junk science you try and claim to the contrary.

[Major Nikon]

37. It also relies on the general public's ignorance of the relationship between dose and toxicity

[NickB79]

29. Well, the Food Babe fully endorses "clean" eating

And she's a complete nutcase.

So there's that, of course.

Then there's the actual science behind the myth of "clean eating": http://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2016/09/10/clean_eating_debunked_109745.html

[Major Nikon]

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