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Alhena

(3,030 posts)
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 10:51 AM Oct 2016

Should Hillary tell her Utah supporters to vote for Evan McMullin?

saw this from a CBS poll:

In Utah - a reliably Republican state – Trump is at 37 percent, with independent candidate Evan McMullin at 20 percent and Hillary Clinton at 20 percent.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-women-propel-hillary-clinton-into-battleground-lead-over-donald-trump/

I've seen other polls showing McMullin (a Utah Mormon) doing much better.

It doesn't look like Hillary will win Utah, so would it not make sense for her to tell her Utah supporters to vote for McMullin?

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Should Hillary tell her Utah supporters to vote for Evan McMullin? (Original Post) Alhena Oct 2016 OP
Absolutely not. tarheelsunc Oct 2016 #1
Why the hell would she do that? LisaL Oct 2016 #2
Here's a simple thing. If you don't want Don, vote for Hillary NightWatcher Oct 2016 #3
She should tell McMullin's supporters to vote for Hillary Orrex Oct 2016 #4
Or more Trump supporters to vote for McMullin. LisaL Oct 2016 #5
That is my default approach when I can't convince someone exboyfil Oct 2016 #6
No. It would be unlikely but McMullin winning could throw the election to Congress to decide. Statistical Oct 2016 #7
No. She should continue to present saltpoint Oct 2016 #8
No. book_worm Oct 2016 #9
Hell no Peaches999 Oct 2016 #10
No... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #11

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
1. Absolutely not.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 10:59 AM
Oct 2016

If neither candidate gets 270 because McMullin wins Utah, the House decides the next president out of the three with the most electoral votes. If McMullin wins Utah, the Republican representatives then have a "sane" Republican to rally around.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. Here's a simple thing. If you don't want Don, vote for Hillary
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 11:03 AM
Oct 2016

If you live in a solid red or solid blue state and want to protest vote, vote for Hillary.

If she's ahead by ten million, vote for Hillary.

Orrex

(63,212 posts)
4. She should tell McMullin's supporters to vote for Hillary
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 11:05 AM
Oct 2016

I defy you to cite a modern example of a candidate winning an election by urging the electorate to vote for someone else.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
6. That is my default approach when I can't convince someone
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 11:21 AM
Oct 2016

to vote for Clinton. I recommend Johnson as an alternative.

There is a scenario in which McMullin could win the presidency. Highly unlikely but an interesting read to see how the Electoral College works (top 3 vote getters are voted upon).

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-evan-mcmullin-could-win-utah-and-the-presidency/

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
7. No. It would be unlikely but McMullin winning could throw the election to Congress to decide.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 11:23 AM
Oct 2016

Now I think Hillary will be 300+ in electoral college and if that happens it is a non-issue either way. However in the race tightened up and McMullin took Utah then it could be both Clinton and Trump end up under 270 at which point Congress decides the outcome. At best you end up with VP Pence at worst you end up with Trump and Pence.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
8. No. She should continue to present
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 11:48 AM
Oct 2016

Clinton-Kaine as a sane, mature, and thoughtful alternative to many Utah voters' usual voting preferences, and maybe subtly challenge them for any support they might give the Republican ticket, since it is comprised of two notably lousy excuses for public servants. She could use much calmer language than that but still get the point through.

I'm not impressed with Evan McMullin just because he doesn't appear to act like a horse's ass like Trump.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
11. No...
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 12:31 PM
Oct 2016

Basically, McMullen voters are pulled from the Repub base that would vote Trump or stay home. Either way, it does nothing for Clinton.

If McMullen wins Utah, who cares? Clinton has the other 49 states.

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