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When a Republican tells you the election is rigged, send them to this site (Original Post) PJMcK Oct 2016 OP
thanks for this! recovering_democrat Oct 2016 #1
You're welcome PJMcK Oct 2016 #3
The process leading up to the election is rigged krispos42 Oct 2016 #2
Ah, but your examples are the Republican rigs PJMcK Oct 2016 #4
It's not voter fraud, it's election fraud mountain grammy Oct 2016 #5
They don't understand the difference between pangaia Oct 2016 #8
This is just my understanding, from what I've read mountain grammy Oct 2016 #11
Of course. You and I know what it is. pangaia Oct 2016 #14
and when I responded to your post I was thinking you said I mountain grammy Oct 2016 #15
I didn't even notice. DUH !! pangaia Oct 2016 #16
There are plenty of shenanigans at the local level IronLionZion Oct 2016 #6
U can never use,,, Cryptoad Oct 2016 #7
When a Republican "wins" by a Supreme Court appointment, Rocknrule Oct 2016 #9
Russia is my only concern. lark Oct 2016 #10
Easy enough URL to remember. lpbk2713 Oct 2016 #12
Ha! Like facts matter to these numb skulls. progressoid Oct 2016 #13

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
2. The process leading up to the election is rigged
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:38 AM
Oct 2016

See Wisconsin, North Carolina, Florida, Texas, etc.

ID requirements, voter list purges, cutting early & absentee voting, shuffling precincts, removing or combining polling places, and so on.

Plus the ever-present gerrymandering.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
4. Ah, but your examples are the Republican rigs
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:56 AM
Oct 2016

Isn't anything okay if it's done by a Republican? You know, win at all costs because GOP=good, Democrats=bad.


(total sarcasm)

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
5. It's not voter fraud, it's election fraud
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:39 AM
Oct 2016

when voters names are erased from the rolls and unnecessary restrictions are placed on identification and the integrity of voting machines is compromised. That's the only rigging and its done by the GOP. I've been hearing this voter fraud shit from conservatives for years as an excuse for not winning because, except for us liberals, everyone would vote Republican if it was fair, by golly.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
11. This is just my understanding, from what I've read
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 10:42 AM
Oct 2016

Voter fraud is about individual voters.. being registered to vote in more than one place, not being eligible to vote but voting anyway. It's a crime committed by an individual.
Election fraud involves a concerted effort to influence elections by removing voters from rolls, hacking voting machines, interfering with voter registration, etc. and are crimes committed by election officials.
I'm no expert, for sure, this is just how I've interpreted it.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. Of course. You and I know what it is.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 11:19 AM
Oct 2016

But the fuckwads are too stupid to understand the difference.
And there HAS been election fraud and manipulation.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
15. and when I responded to your post I was thinking you said I
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 12:59 PM
Oct 2016

instead of they. My reading skills aren't as good as they used to be, so forgive my little lesson there. But it's good to know you agree with me.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
6. There are plenty of shenanigans at the local level
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:43 AM
Oct 2016

usually to suppress the black vote in the Southeast by purging the voter rolls, challenging eligibility, or severe limitations on the hours and early voting locations in black neighborhoods.

Why not let the republicans think it's rigged? A nation-wide review of local election processes could be good for us as liberals. It could expose a lot of the modern Jim Crow style nonsense.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
7. U can never use,,,
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:50 AM
Oct 2016

logic and reason to change somebody's opinions if they didn't use logic and reason to come to those opinions.

I have started just pushing their crazy buttons and get em even mo fired up!

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
9. When a Republican "wins" by a Supreme Court appointment,
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 10:17 AM
Oct 2016

it's a mandate and he was chosen by God

When a Democrat wins in a landslide, it was rigged, he's not MY president, time to grab the shootin' irons and take back Murika, etc.

lark

(23,102 posts)
10. Russia is my only concern.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 10:23 AM
Oct 2016

Putin is desperate to get a tin pot dictator in the WH who end sanctions against them, cede them Syria, destroy NATO and let Russia invade and take over Ukraine and other eastern European countries in exchange for debt forgiveness and for the oligarchs buying lots of McMansions.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
13. Ha! Like facts matter to these numb skulls.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 10:48 AM
Oct 2016

But I'll bookmark it just in case I need a quick rebuttal.

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