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ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:09 PM Oct 2016

Is there some sort of insurrection in the offing? I'm getting nervous

Last edited Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:48 PM - Edit history (2)

I have no idea how many extreme drumpf supporters there are (those who would actually try to shut down the govt, etc) -- but I'm feeling this huge knot in my stomach. Are they a "force to be reckoned with?" I read these scary posts and wonder if things are really that volatile. Is the government aware of these threats from the crazies?? How seriously should we take the threat of "pitchforks And torches?"

Or is it a lot of bluster?

I really hope cool heads prevail.

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Is there some sort of insurrection in the offing? I'm getting nervous (Original Post) ailsagirl Oct 2016 OP
They might try, in scattered but semi-organized fashion. mahina Oct 2016 #1
I knew that intellectually but had to hear someone say it-- thank you!! ailsagirl Oct 2016 #3
The Bundy Bunch had the right idea but were thinking too small. We need BIG ideas, BIG impact! randome Oct 2016 #23
Most Trumpers GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #56
Remember the "Truckers To Shut Down Washington DC" thing? jberryhill Oct 2016 #2
Not only electric scooters.. Laffy Kat Oct 2016 #5
Their main strategy is fear and intimidation. cbdo2007 Oct 2016 #4
An unintended consequence of the NRA's decades-long effort to value money over our lives, mahina Oct 2016 #7
In my radio market, the NRA is now advertising on conservative outlets lapucelle Oct 2016 #54
I hope you're right ailsagirl Oct 2016 #9
Their chief weapon is surprise. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #55
Look watch the Bundy's trial and tell the morons they're next if they try any shit malaise Oct 2016 #6
There are an awful lot of crazies in the US. Far more than I had ever imagined and they RKP5637 Oct 2016 #8
We blow off and minimize this threat annabanana Oct 2016 #11
Exactly! There are so many hate groups in the US and it seems Trump is uniting them. I don't think RKP5637 Oct 2016 #12
It is past time for a serious media push on the concept of annabanana Oct 2016 #10
Definitely!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2016 #13
I agree. Boomerproud Oct 2016 #14
I won't be one bit surprised Hayduke Bomgarte Oct 2016 #15
National Guard should be on a full-on alert for a few weeks after the election..n/t monmouth4 Oct 2016 #17
They're all voting for Trump. EL34x4 Oct 2016 #53
No offense meant at all... GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #57
No way Nevernose Oct 2016 #34
Tea baggers on life support HipChick Oct 2016 #16
No. never going to happen. PeteSelman Oct 2016 #18
Force semby2 Oct 2016 #19
8 Years johnsolaris Oct 2016 #20
No panic here... I don't want to be an alarmist, but a little planning is wise. neeksgeek Oct 2016 #21
You're wise to do that ailsagirl Oct 2016 #24
bluster & bullshit just like trump spanone Oct 2016 #22
I agree. The Wielding Truth Oct 2016 #52
Nothing deflates hot air as much as a humiliating defeat world wide wally Oct 2016 #25
Agree, let's give it to them! mountain grammy Oct 2016 #50
Insurrection? I'd first soak the Trumpeters with fire hoses, and work up from there. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #26
Nothing will even sort of happen. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2016 #27
After his astonishingly humiliating defeat, Trump supporters will become as scarce as.... Brother Buzz Oct 2016 #28
People seem to think... deathrind Oct 2016 #29
Me too. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #30
A blowout would likely silence most if them. DCBob Oct 2016 #31
Trump is channeliing Ammon Bundy. Expect the same success, all talk, no snacks. Coyotl Oct 2016 #32
They'd quickly turn from a force to be reckoned with into a force to be dealt with. Iggo Oct 2016 #33
Same old Bear Creek Oct 2016 #35
That's true ailsagirl Oct 2016 #37
Understand Bear Creek Oct 2016 #38
That must be a real drag!! ailsagirl Oct 2016 #40
Funny at times Bear Creek Oct 2016 #48
I hope they are the minority ailsagirl Oct 2016 #49
They are chicken shit cowards that like to run their mouths when they all get together. tonyt53 Oct 2016 #36
Every day I change my mind.. he can't win, yes he can. mountain grammy Oct 2016 #39
I just don't see how he can win-- unless there are things going on we don't know about ailsagirl Oct 2016 #41
Me neither. mountain grammy Oct 2016 #42
We're all in the same boat-- we WILL prevail ailsagirl Oct 2016 #43
Yes. mountain grammy Oct 2016 #45
Hate-filled and face-down in the koolaide for so long... bhikkhu Oct 2016 #44
I do hope you're right!! ailsagirl Oct 2016 #46
Please. As if they're going to put down the ranch dressing Codeine Oct 2016 #47
I'm concerned for HRC....trump devotees are nutrition Gin Oct 2016 #51
taking it seriously. not changing my life in any way. recovering_democrat Oct 2016 #58
I like your plan ailsagirl Oct 2016 #60
Bluster. cwydro Oct 2016 #59
Trump's supporters are even more frightening than the man himself JSA944 Oct 2016 #61
Hi, how did you find DU? I'm always curious about that. I'm hoping you might answer. uppityperson Oct 2016 #62
Trump supporters not only have no brains louis c Oct 2016 #63

mahina

(17,705 posts)
1. They might try, in scattered but semi-organized fashion.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:12 PM
Oct 2016

A la Bundy protest.

It's wise to be prepared but no amount of failing to concede will stop the rule of law in this country. Thank goodness.

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
3. I knew that intellectually but had to hear someone say it-- thank you!!
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:14 PM
Oct 2016

And Obama will not fail us.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. The Bundy Bunch had the right idea but were thinking too small. We need BIG ideas, BIG impact!
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:25 PM
Oct 2016

Like: invading and occupying Disney World! Yeah! That's the ticket! Spread the word!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Remember the "Truckers To Shut Down Washington DC" thing?
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:13 PM
Oct 2016

These revolutionaries - in large number - can't really cause trouble beyond the range of their electric scooters.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
5. Not only electric scooters..
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:17 PM
Oct 2016

Many are on supplemental O2 after a lifetime of smoking. (And no offense to smokers or former smokers, as I am a former smoker myself.)

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
4. Their main strategy is fear and intimidation.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:17 PM
Oct 2016

Sure there may be some random acts of violence in the days after Hillary wins, but then they will calm down md just go grumble in their homes for 4 more years until we go through all of this again.

mahina

(17,705 posts)
7. An unintended consequence of the NRA's decades-long effort to value money over our lives,
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:19 PM
Oct 2016

We've become, sadly, somewhat inured to loss.

lapucelle

(18,351 posts)
54. In my radio market, the NRA is now advertising on conservative outlets
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:49 PM
Oct 2016

for car donations. They will be using the money they raise for "second amendment rights education".

Kars for Kidz does good work with the money that they raise. That the NRA is competing with them for donations is disgusting

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
9. I hope you're right
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:20 PM
Oct 2016

But we know from past experience that drumpf doesn't let go of things easily-- if at all. I could not believe he dragged out that ridiculous birther subject for years-- I thought he'd give up and go away. No such luck. And he loves riling up his minions, who would do anything for him.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
55. Their chief weapon is surprise.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:55 PM
Oct 2016

Fear and surprise. Two chief weapons, fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency. Among their chief weapons are fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, and near fanatical devotion to Donald Trump.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
8. There are an awful lot of crazies in the US. Far more than I had ever imagined and they
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:20 PM
Oct 2016

don't want a democracy. IMO there is some evil SH** in the US as now revealed by their champion, Trump. And what is funny, he probably considers them ALL super-losers, good to be manipulated for the vote.

That all said, Trump could start Trump TV with Roger Ailes. What a hate fest that would be, and, possibly start another party with disgruntled republicans.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
12. Exactly! There are so many hate groups in the US and it seems Trump is uniting them. I don't think
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:25 PM
Oct 2016

he's going away. In some areas it can be very dangerous in the US, and there are so damn many weapons.

Boomerproud

(7,968 posts)
14. I agree.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:37 PM
Oct 2016

But the anger is so deep I have no clue how to turn it around. They will NEVER admit they are in the wrong. Even the best documentary would not sway them. If HRC is elected, I will not be surprised at anything.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
15. I won't be one bit surprised
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:48 PM
Oct 2016

After HRC wins, and wins big, if there are scattered pockets of riots and even Govt. building take-overs or at least extremely vandalized. I also won't be surprised if, in a few spots, it gets bad enough that the National guard has to be called in. Hell, I'd bet on it.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
53. They're all voting for Trump.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:49 PM
Oct 2016

Polls indicate Trump is doing very well with military voters. That's a concern.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
57. No offense meant at all...
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:10 PM
Oct 2016

But I do not think our military and especially National Guard deserve to have their loyalty questioned.

There are many, many republican Trump voters, both military and civilian who would not hesitate to take arms against any seditious Trump supporters.

But his supporters will go back to their Natural Lights, hot pockets and Duck Dynasty. Because you can't overthrow a government when you need a CPAP to sleep.(fair dig as I use a CPAP).

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
34. No way
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 05:47 PM
Oct 2016

White people only riot after winning/losing a sporting event. Most of Trump's voters are too fat, old, and suburban to actually organize a an angry mob.

The rest of your post is spot on. I'd add the likelihood of bombings.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
18. No. never going to happen.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:04 PM
Oct 2016

All this angst and crazy talk is just on the internet and the cable news world. I see zero evidence of this stuff in the real world.

 

semby2

(246 posts)
19. Force
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:11 PM
Oct 2016

We will have the American people and the force of the government behind us to put down any illegal "insurrection". And if we're strategic we can pin this directly on the Republican party for decades, assuming the Republican party survives that long.

johnsolaris

(220 posts)
20. 8 Years
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:18 PM
Oct 2016

Hi,

The Die hard Trump supporters have had to endure, as they put it, something they thought would never occur in their lifetime. 8 Years of a Black president in office & now a Woman may become President in their lifetime, and Congress may go in Democratic hands. Can you imagine what this is doing to their little reptile brains.

It would not surprise me if there is some random violence after the election. I live in a very Red area & I plan to keep my mouth shut & be very careful after the election.

As Democrats. we have had to endure decades of Republican hate & manure & being in the minority & we understand it & how to deal with it. The narrative may be changed for these people & that is something they can not comprehend.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
21. No panic here... I don't want to be an alarmist, but a little planning is wise.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:21 PM
Oct 2016

I'm a little bit worried, to be honest. But my usual response to worries is to look for solutions. So around election day, I'll be ready to "shelter in place" or evacuate.

Our apartment complex has quite a few Hispanic and Indian residents, in an area near Quail Hollow and Southpark Mall, and probably more right-wing than left. (The only Trump signs I've seen are just down the road). If somebody was targeting immigrants, they might see this as a good place to attack, but I doubt that the homeowners in this neighborhood would damage their property values by starting a riot. Of course somebody from outside might.

So, my wife and I have increased our awareness of who is around, bought a can of pepper spray (I ruled out a gun, I don't want to kill anybody; all I want is to encourage them to leave us alone), and have a plan in place to evacuate ourselves and our dogs quickly if needed. I try to keep extra non-perishable food and water around anyway. This little bit of "prepper" comes from living for years in Boone, NC, where it is possible to get seriously snowed-in, and from growing up in very rural conditions as a child.

We always keep one car maintained and gassed-up, and we have a good route (away from major roads) planned to a relative's house in the suburbs. But people who don't have somewhere else to go... I would worry about them if things got really out of hand. Hopefully the police and National Guard will be on the side of civilization.

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
24. You're wise to do that
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:32 PM
Oct 2016

If it turns out you didn't need to-- no harm done. I'd much rather err on the side of over-vigilance than the opposite.

Though I'm in California, I know it doesn't exempt me. I hope law authorities will be on full alert everywhere-- they have been for less threatening things than this, after all

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
27. Nothing will even sort of happen.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 05:02 PM
Oct 2016

You're just reading too much MastersNemesis.

These men are cowards, Donny.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
29. People seem to think...
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 05:29 PM
Oct 2016

That it is just talk and think it is no big deal. That we heard the same thing when President Obama won. The rights hatred for Obama is nothing compared to the hatred they have had for Clinton for decades now. These people have had 20+ years of listening to Limbaugh and about half that time listening to the likes of Hannity/Beck/Orielly/Savage.

Personally I think it should it taken very very seriously.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
31. A blowout would likely silence most if them.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 05:41 PM
Oct 2016

If its close there will be cries of foul play and rigged election and it could get ugly.. but even then i doubt it. These trumpers morons arent really intelligent or committed enough to organize an actual revolution.

Iggo

(47,571 posts)
33. They'd quickly turn from a force to be reckoned with into a force to be dealt with.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 05:46 PM
Oct 2016

See: Ammon Bundy et al.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
35. Same old
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 05:57 PM
Oct 2016

Been hearing this crap for years. Early 90s the militia was going to free America. the republicans have just been carrying water for the south will rise again. Been there done that bought the tee shirt

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
37. That's true
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:03 PM
Oct 2016

I've always ignored their threats but somehow they seem more plausible now. It's hard to be objective, which is why I started this thread!


Bear Creek

(883 posts)
38. Understand
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:47 PM
Oct 2016

But having to listen to the idiots every day at work makes one immune they talk and do nothing

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
48. Funny at times
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:23 PM
Oct 2016

They don't know what they are saying
They don't know the difference between types of socialism and communism let alone capitalism. The talk and what they watch are 180 degrees out of phase

mountain grammy

(26,656 posts)
39. Every day I change my mind.. he can't win, yes he can.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:00 PM
Oct 2016

I'm terrified, but working in my little world to register voters, etc. Taking a week or so off to be with the ancients in Mesa Verdi.

I see a nightmare if Trump's elected. His thugs will roam the streets and police will not respond. That's how it went in Nazi Germany. I expect it will begin with Muslims, but will spread quickly to others. I honestly believe there will be chaos.

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
41. I just don't see how he can win-- unless there are things going on we don't know about
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:06 PM
Oct 2016


But Obama is still President for more than three months-- I don't think he'll leave us in harm's way. Nor will HRC.

bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
44. Hate-filled and face-down in the koolaide for so long...
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:14 PM
Oct 2016

most of them wouldn't survive long in the real world. Outside of their little internet fortresses I don't think they pose more of a threat than the bundys.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
47. Please. As if they're going to put down the ranch dressing
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:22 PM
Oct 2016

long enough to leave their house. Old, bitter, unhealthy white people don't represent a threat.

58. taking it seriously. not changing my life in any way.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:37 PM
Oct 2016

Old enough to remember the civil rights conflict era, many other problems in this nation including the Bush win with hacked and stolen voting with Gore showing the class that Trump does NOT have to concede anyway.

My history tells me to be cautious. I read all the right wing crazy stuff on the internets, every day and pay attention to the sources of the threats. I expect the feds and local law enforcement are doing the same, seriously.

What matters is sanity and intelligence. Do the crazies have either or both. No.

Watch. Don't panic. my plan.

 

JSA944

(10 posts)
61. Trump's supporters are even more frightening than the man himself
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 12:10 AM
Oct 2016

They have been brainwashed to the extreme via 24/7 exposure to hate radio and RW media.

That being said, I'm not at all worried about an uprising. The vast, vast majority of these dunces have never even served a single day in the military, and would be crushed like a bug if they tried something. Still, it's always good to be aware of these maniacs.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
63. Trump supporters not only have no brains
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:37 AM
Oct 2016

they have no balls.

When this is over, it will be over and the Trump supporters will crawl under a rock, until the next time a demagogue emerges.

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