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closeupready

(29,503 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:38 PM Oct 2016

Are you pissed that all Nobel Prizes this year went to men?


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Are you pissed that all Nobel Prizes this year went to men? (Original Post) closeupready Oct 2016 OP
Gender shouldn't matter Lifelong Protester Oct 2016 #1
Agreed. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #17
So happy for Bob Dylan. madaboutharry Oct 2016 #2
If I was a voting member of the Nobel committee, it might gratuitous Oct 2016 #3
It's not the committee's fault. Too much resistance in schools, unis, corps, etc. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #4
What is your purpose in posting this? n/t demmiblue Oct 2016 #5
This. MicaelS Oct 2016 #7
Well, that inspired me, but as they say, closeupready Oct 2016 #9
No, I think it is more about this: demmiblue Oct 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Oct 2016 #8
Oh, the irony of your sentiment LanternWaste Oct 2016 #12
I didn't see it. demmiblue Oct 2016 #13
interesting---I was just writing to several heads of depts in my state wordpix Oct 2016 #10
Do you have a point? George II Oct 2016 #15
I think he's making fun of this OP. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #18
So he has no point other than to mock other members here. George II Oct 2016 #19
Some posts are just begging to be mocked. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #20
Wow, just wow. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #29
Perhaps they should have tweaked the results by taking away Dylan's Nobel, Nye Bevan Oct 2016 #16
Tweaks for twerks? Sounds like a hit. closeupready Oct 2016 #23
That should liven up the conference a bit. NaturalHigh Oct 2016 #24
Nice! nt MadDAsHell Oct 2016 #27
No, but some of the things it's a symptom of make me angry. Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2016 #21
These are very good points. Thank you for posting. closeupready Oct 2016 #22
Could be the women were just erased. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #30
Incandescent Rage AngryAmish Oct 2016 #25
Depends on if the most noteworthy achievements were by men or not. MadDAsHell Oct 2016 #26
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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. If I was a voting member of the Nobel committee, it might
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:42 PM
Oct 2016

But, just like I don't give a rip about the Baseball Hall of Fame (the exclusive province of the Baseball Writers Association of America) or the Academy Awards (nobody decides those but the members of the academy), I can't get too worked up about a prize bestowed by any group that I don't belong to.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
4. It's not the committee's fault. Too much resistance in schools, unis, corps, etc.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:57 PM
Oct 2016

Easier for women to win in Literature & Peace (easier to rise and perfect chops, less institutionalized competition).

Too much channeling of girls away from mathematics.

Response to demmiblue (Reply #5)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Oh, the irony of your sentiment
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 02:28 PM
Oct 2016

"Do you have an agenda? It seems so.."

Oh, the irony of your sentiment; regardless of the irrelevance of free expression.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
10. interesting---I was just writing to several heads of depts in my state
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 02:27 PM
Oct 2016

all men. And I'm in a Dem state

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. Perhaps they should have tweaked the results by taking away Dylan's Nobel,
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:49 PM
Oct 2016

and giving it to Miley Cyrus instead.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
21. No, but some of the things it's a symptom of make me angry.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 05:47 PM
Oct 2016

I don't think that the Nobel prize committee discriminate against women, and I don't think that they should discriminate in their favour; I think that the reason most Nobel prizes go to men is because most of the best candidates are men.

However, I think that while the reason that most of the best candidates are men may be partly biological, a very large part of it is due to the fact that, on average*, it's much harder to become a good candidate for a Nobel prize if you're female, because of social and cultural obstacles.

And that is something I think it's not OK not to be angry about, even though the response of the Nobel prize committee in itself does not make me angry.


*The "on average" disclaimer is absolutely vital here - without it, this statement ceases to be true.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
30. Could be the women were just erased.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 07:25 PM
Oct 2016

Ladies Last: 8 Inventions by Women That Dudes Got Credit For

From computer programming to nuclear fission to the paper bag machine, it's time to stop erasing these women from their great works.

Tim Murphy and Tasneem RajaOct. 15, 2013 6:00 AM


http://www.motherjones.com/media/2013/10/ada-lovelace-eight-inventions-women-erasure-credit

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
26. Depends on if the most noteworthy achievements were by men or not.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:03 PM
Oct 2016

What are they supposed to do, rank all candidates first by race, gender, and sexual orientation (in that priority order, because let's be honest, sexual orientation clearly has a back seat to the other two in 2016), eliminate all the white men, and then pick the best achievements from those who are left?

Sounds like the direction the Oscars wants to go so why not, right?

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