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PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:54 AM Oct 2016

Legal questions regarding Donald Trump's threat to sue the NY Times

In another thread, I posted the following but realized it was buried and might not be seen by any DU attorneys. Kindly consider these questions.
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Here are a few legal questions for any DU attorneys:

1. Does the emailed message from Mr. Kasowitz to Mr. Bacquet represent a legal service of notice? For proper service, doesn't the recipient (or their designated representative) have to sign acknowledgment of service? Or is this just a semi-formal letter that doesn't carry much more than the threat of possible future actions?

2. As several posters have noted, if there's a libel lawsuit, there will be a discovery phase. Would this include sworn testimony? What would be the limitations of the discovery process?

3. How long would such a proceeding be likely to take? In what jurisdiction would this take place? Would a court case be heard before a judge alone or would a jury be impaneled?

4. How likely are Mr. Trump's lawyers to actually follow through with their threatened litigation? How likely is it that Mr. Trump could prevail?

Thanks, in advance, for your insights.

Additionally, DUer Massacure added this inquiry:

Obviously it will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but what kind of odds are there that any potential lawsuit would fall under an anti-SLAPP statute (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation)? If the lawsuit does get ruled as a SLAPP, what implications does that have?
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Legal questions regarding Donald Trump's threat to sue the NY Times (Original Post) PJMcK Oct 2016 OP
1. This wasn't service of process. It's just a whiny rant in a letter. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #1
Thanks for your answers PJMcK Oct 2016 #3
Someone seriously thinks this will result in a lawsuit, instead of just being... PoliticAverse Oct 2016 #2
this is how he would handle the press from the white house spanone Oct 2016 #4
The key word is "threat" awake Oct 2016 #5
Newspapers routinely get letters like these from lawyers. The vast majority of threats go Brickbat Oct 2016 #6
Can the NYT sue Trump for lible awake Oct 2016 #7
You can sue anybody for anything.... beachbum bob Oct 2016 #8
A couple of expansions on geek tragedy's answers jberryhill Oct 2016 #9
I would add just thing: marybourg Oct 2016 #10
Great, informative answers PJMcK Oct 2016 #11
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. 1. This wasn't service of process. It's just a whiny rant in a letter.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

2. Trump's entire sexual history would be in-bounds, so he'd have to have his emails and social media accounts (including Twitter messages) searched. There would be depositions, etc etc.

3. Hard to say where he'd sue, most likely he'd forum shop for a state with the worst protections of free speech. Would take months if not years.

4. Zero and zero.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. Someone seriously thinks this will result in a lawsuit, instead of just being...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

in the "hope we get something from a threatening letter" category?

spanone

(135,844 posts)
4. this is how he would handle the press from the white house
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:04 AM
Oct 2016

thank GOD we'll never have a chance to find out

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
6. Newspapers routinely get letters like these from lawyers. The vast majority of threats go
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:08 AM
Oct 2016

absolutely nowhere.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
8. You can sue anybody for anything....
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:16 AM
Oct 2016

Trump has used as billing tool and works well against individuals and small business

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. A couple of expansions on geek tragedy's answers
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:43 AM
Oct 2016

1. It's a letter, like any other letter. It could be offering you vast sums of money from a Nigerian prince. People believe strange things about cease and desist letters, I don't know why. The only "legal effect" such a letter has is that it puts you on notice that the claimant is pissed off. Later on, if you in fact are doing something wrong, it is difficult for you to claim ignorance of the claim. But that's not important here.

To file a lawsuit, you write up a complaint, file it with the court, pay $350, and then follow whatever procedure the local rules require for transmitting a copy of that complaint to the defendant.

2. Yes, but this wouldn't really get that far down that road for a number of reasons. Discovery would involve sworn testimony. That's why lawsuits like the Paula Jones one was filed. Although it was kicked out for lack of demonstrable harm, and then settled when appeal was threatened, it was the discovery process in the Paula Jones suit that turned up the Monica Lewinski situation. And, yes, discovery here would involve a probing examination of Donald Trump's relations with women generally.

3. Whether a case is decided by a judge on motions, or whether it is decided by a jury, depends on where case is at procedurally. Some actions can be decided on the facts agreed between the parties, and the dispute is purely a question of law. If there is a disputed determinative fact, then a jury needs to determine whether or not that fact(s) is more likely true than not. For example, leaving aside the heightened level of intent required when one is a public figure, let's say this comes down to "he said, she said". In that situation credibility is an issue that will be determined by a jury.

4. Who knows. Zero.

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
10. I would add just thing:
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:54 AM
Oct 2016

re 1. This would be the point at which to notify your liability insurance carrier.

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