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RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! Thet thar dam's 'bout to BURST. RUUUUUUUUUN . . . . . . . (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Oct 2016 OP
ROFL malaise Oct 2016 #1
??? Roland99 Oct 2016 #2
Women Trump assaulted are reporting in uppityperson Oct 2016 #6
Always makes me wonder why they wait so long. Roland99 Oct 2016 #8
You must be a man. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #9
Doesnt matter what my sex is Roland99 Oct 2016 #10
because in the past week there was video of Trump admitting he assaulted women wheniwasincongress Oct 2016 #12
Not like it's really news Roland99 Oct 2016 #15
Sexual assault is not lust - and it is not caused by lust. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2016 #29
Right. Which is why I mentioned it separately. Roland99 Oct 2016 #43
A woman wouldn't even ask that question. We know why. Most of us The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #22
And that's why they largely get away with it Roland99 Oct 2016 #27
So it's women's fault, then? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #28
Yeah. That's what I said Roland99 Oct 2016 #35
Wow! pangaia Oct 2016 #36
Question... Roland99 Oct 2016 #40
Yes, you are off base, miss an important step. She reports it, is not believed, is blamed for false uppityperson Oct 2016 #44
And that step happens way too much Roland99 Oct 2016 #45
May I add, every time that happens, he is that much more immunized against future accusations. Stinky The Clown Oct 2016 #47
But do you not see that other side of the coin? Roland99 Oct 2016 #49
Also, is sued by billionaire wickerwoman Oct 2016 #62
Yes. You are accusing the victims of creating this monster by not reporting. nt Ms. Toad Oct 2016 #46
No, you have that backwards. Women don't report assaults because they aren't believed and go through uppityperson Oct 2016 #42
Thank you gwheezie Oct 2016 #53
Similar thing happened to me on a city bus when I was in high school. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #58
that is not why they get away with it demigoddess Oct 2016 #60
No one wanted to be first, but together they can stand together. uppityperson Oct 2016 #23
And i hope this finally brings about his downfall Roland99 Oct 2016 #37
I'm not a Tiger sympathizer Lefthacker Oct 2016 #14
one gal comes out = rich asshole predator DESTROYS HER Skittles Oct 2016 #16
And his supporters will still stand by him Roland99 Oct 2016 #18
I never reported my assaults or rape. uppityperson Oct 2016 #20
As a guy, I am embarassed to read this. Old and In the Way Oct 2016 #30
Most of your gender are indeed better than that. There are, unfortunately, enough that are jerks uppityperson Oct 2016 #31
While I have never been a Trumpster, i did grow up in an era that allowed Old and In the Way Oct 2016 #39
I've had similar experiences radical noodle Oct 2016 #54
Wow Stinky The Clown Oct 2016 #25
That was exactly my response. pangaia Oct 2016 #38
I've never reported my sexual assaults gwheezie Oct 2016 #32
Exactly, thank you, and best wishes to you uppityperson Oct 2016 #41
Or hear... oh, it was just a little kiss... or radical noodle Oct 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #50
When it happened, he wasn't in line to run the country. forgotmylogin Oct 2016 #59
Because we know no ones going to pnwest Oct 2016 #65
Try to tweet your way out of this one, asshole. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2016 #3
Exactly. He can't attack them all. He can't blame them all. He can't destroy them all. n/t. lindysalsagal Oct 2016 #4
And he can't build a wall around himself. lpbk2713 Oct 2016 #48
I hope Melania has a friend she can call saltpoint Oct 2016 #5
she already knew Skittles Oct 2016 #17
Very likely you're right. But while I think saltpoint Oct 2016 #19
people like her legitimize creepy predators like Trump Skittles Oct 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #51
Yeah, I don't know either. But I hope she does saltpoint Oct 2016 #66
So he wants to throw Hillary in jail ... demotux Oct 2016 #7
Quicker than the way women came out about Cosby eleny Oct 2016 #11
I think it could be a combination of things, but mostly . . . . Stinky The Clown Oct 2016 #33
You could say that women are coming forward to corroborate his claims eleny Oct 2016 #52
It's like the dang furbys found a swimming pool jberryhill Oct 2016 #13
Shock & Awe. nt JBoy Oct 2016 #24
These things are happening FASTER MFM008 Oct 2016 #26
How many women must have gone along with his move. bullimiami Oct 2016 #34
I immediately thought of Iron Maiden malchickiwick Oct 2016 #56
lol that patented Dickinson scream at 2:42... 0rganism Oct 2016 #67
damn and I thought you were posting about something significant like NC flooding... JCMach1 Oct 2016 #57
From a trickle to a flood Midnight Writer Oct 2016 #61
He's always been an entitled pig Warpy Oct 2016 #63
BBC Breakfast TV is carrying the story now ☺ OnDoutside Oct 2016 #64

malaise

(269,054 posts)
1. ROFL
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:48 PM
Oct 2016

This is too good. Women are bringing down a predator and he is about to be whipped by a woman. This is perfect.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
8. Always makes me wonder why they wait so long.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:54 PM
Oct 2016

Tiger Woods, Bill Cosby. Now Trump

Why not come out when it happened?

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
10. Doesnt matter what my sex is
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:59 PM
Oct 2016

I understand that at the time women are powerless, scared, afraid for their lives even. But with all the awareness happening, why wait? And now its like a bandwagon. Face the predator. Make them pay for their crime and not let them get away with it!

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
12. because in the past week there was video of Trump admitting he assaulted women
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:02 PM
Oct 2016

they felt emboldened with this proof that Donald himself gave.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
15. Not like it's really news
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:04 PM
Oct 2016

Esp after his interview with Stern years ago and other interviews where he's admitted his lust for women.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
43. Right. Which is why I mentioned it separately.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:47 PM
Oct 2016

It's also not assault to say he'd "do" his daughter of she wasn't his daughter but it does add to his perv factor

He's a total sleazeball who's sadly loved by millions (of deplorables)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
22. A woman wouldn't even ask that question. We know why. Most of us
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:10 PM
Oct 2016

have experienced some form of sexual assault or predation. When something like that happens you are frightened and ashamed; you think it's your fault or that other people will blame you; you're afraid nobody will believe you (and until recent years that was often what happened); if it's a boss or person in authority you're afraid of retaliation. So you don't tell anyone except maybe a few friends and family and you hope to forget the whole incident. But you can't.

The women who are coming forward now are very brave, knowing how vicious Trump is.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
40. Question...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:40 PM
Oct 2016

Rich megalomaniac sexually assaults someone. It never gets reported.

Rich megalomaniac thinks "hmmm. I can do that again. No one will say anything. Who will believe them?"

Rich megalomaniac does it again

And again

And again


Am I off base here?

It needs to be made known at some point or they get away with it forever.


uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
44. Yes, you are off base, miss an important step. She reports it, is not believed, is blamed for false
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:48 PM
Oct 2016

accusing him as well as it's her own damn fault for letting him into her room, or meeting him somewhere, or wearing provocative clothing, etc etc etc.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
45. And that step happens way too much
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:51 PM
Oct 2016

Been recent cases in the news where judges living in B. C. years apparently.

But setting patterns early. And knowing claims will be made public. I dunno. Perhaps it's wishful thinking that going public will help eliminate some of this horrid behavior.

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
47. May I add, every time that happens, he is that much more immunized against future accusations.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:57 PM
Oct 2016

I think Cosby may have started a paradigm shift on this, but we are far from there yet. If Trump gets away with this, all women are set back by that much.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
49. But do you not see that other side of the coin?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:08 AM
Oct 2016

It's a brutal side and it's completely unfair to the victims but the media and the court of public opinion will always ask "why come out now, years later?"

It will be generations before a sea change occurs in the media, sadly.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
42. No, you have that backwards. Women don't report assaults because they aren't believed and go through
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:45 PM
Oct 2016

hell by making it public, being revictimized.

THAT is why they largely get away with it.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
53. Thank you
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:24 AM
Oct 2016

I have a memory still with me, I was taking the bus home. A man sat next to me & pressed against me, he asked me all kinds of questions about where I was going and what he'd do to me. I got up and sat next to another man and said I'm scared that man back there is threatening me, the man who was threatening me came over and stood over us in the aisle of the bus and the man I was sitting next to actually got up and moved away so the 1st man sat down again and pinned me against the window. I started yelling for the bus driver to stop the bus. And he didn't until it got to the next stop. I pushed my way over the top of my assaulter and got to the front of the bus and told the driver a man was threatening me and don't let him off the bus when I got off. He said I can't stop someone from getting off the bus. So I told 2 people, I screamed, I ran to the front of the bus and no one did anything. I made the decision I could not go home and let this man follow me and find out where I lived so when I saw the bus stop in front of a bodega I ran off the bus and into the store. I was fast enough to get out before my assaulter could get off the bus. I told the people in the bodega what happened because I was afraid he'd get off at the next stop. I didn't want to go outside but someone said they'd look out for the next bus coming and would come and get me. So that's how I got home.
I told my dad, I was 17 and coming home from school. My dad who still is a wonderful guy just kept asking me why didn't I just come straight home. It's not that he didn't believe me I think he never could imagine being so vulnerable and terrified that my actions made no sense to him. This was 50 years ago.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
58. Similar thing happened to me on a city bus when I was in high school.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:24 AM
Oct 2016

But at least my perv didn’t stalk me; he sat next to me and started sliding his hand under my butt. I shouted at him and moved seats. Bus driver did nothing. The perv walked off the bus at the next stop. Then this man who had seen what happened leaned over to me and said, "you should have slapped him." I remember thinking, I'm just a kid, why didn't YOU do something? But I said nothing and just seethed until the bus reached my stop and I got off without a word.

All these decades whenever something triggers that memory I get pissed off all over again.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
60. that is not why they get away with it
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:36 AM
Oct 2016

laws as recent as the 70s and probably 80s are slanted to allowing the guy get away with it. That was actually on the front page of a newspaper I read in the early 70s. Now we have a law that says you can pay a woman less for equal work. That law keeps women from being able to walk away from a predator at work and other laws keep women from finding another job when they do.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
37. And i hope this finally brings about his downfall
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:36 PM
Oct 2016

But wouldn't an ongoing pattern have revealed it sooner and perhaps prevented some of them? Not saying it would have but isn't it possible? I know it's beyond daunting and scary as hell to go public with accusations but there are advocates. And awareness has grown over the years

And morons like Billy Bush shouldn't just go along with it either. Asshats like him reward that type of behavior

Lefthacker

(264 posts)
14. I'm not a Tiger sympathizer
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:04 PM
Oct 2016

But you can't put Tiger in the same category as Cosby and Trump. Tiger never assaulted a women. He had quite a history with women but no one accused him of sexual assault.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
18. And his supporters will still stand by him
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:06 PM
Oct 2016

While denigrating Bill Clinton out of the other side of their mouths. And holding a bible signed by Jesus himself.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
20. I never reported my assaults or rape.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:08 PM
Oct 2016

The first time I was "grabbed by my pussy" I was in 6th grade, it was down the block from my home. It was weird, creepy, nasty and I was embarrassed.

The first time I was shoved against a wall and French kissed by an acquaintance I'd anyway said no to, many times, I was embarrassed to tell anyone and just wanted to be left alone. We were both teenagers.

I was "forcibly raped" by my boyfriend in college and I didn't report that either because I knew it would be turned back on me. After all, we'd had sex before so how could it be rape? Broken nose and all. Besides, I was scared of him.

I've had other men grope me and kiss me when I tried to refuse and never reported them because it's "boys being boys" and most of us know it won't be taken seriously.

Why not come out when it happens? We should be glad of the attention, especially when it's someone rich or famous, and whose word will be believed? Not to mention retribution.

ETA
I was happy when I turned 50 because the number of personal comments and invasion of my personal space dropped off. Not entirely, but some.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
30. As a guy, I am embarassed to read this.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:23 PM
Oct 2016

I hope most of my gender is better than that. You have my total respect and appreciate your contributions to DU.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
31. Most of your gender are indeed better than that. There are, unfortunately, enough that are jerks
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:30 PM
Oct 2016

that it gets really old.

The Trump pussy tape should not be appalling just to those with girls, but boys also because they need to learn early, as most do, that this is totally inappropriate.

Thank you for your kind words. I have not talked about this stuff for a long time, but the hurt and anger are surfacing. I'm glad so many women are speaking out against Trump, and believe these shit if conversations are happening all over, which is good.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
39. While I have never been a Trumpster, i did grow up in an era that allowed
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:38 PM
Oct 2016

This thinking to be acceptable. Glad I was always the doubter and never the participant. I guess having close sisters influenced me more than male friends.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
54. I've had similar experiences
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:30 AM
Oct 2016

although I was never forcibly raped. My first was when I was 16, the last time by my boss when I was 64 and married (in 2012). Several times in between. It's embarrassing and it's often with someone we know. Sometimes it's a married man and his wife is your friend. There are so many reasons why women do not say anything. I never did until now and truthfully I would not ever accuse them by name unless there was a good reason. It's too much trouble. But I'm sure these women see this as "doing the right thing." His words triggered all this.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
32. I've never reported my sexual assaults
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:30 PM
Oct 2016

& very few people know about any of them. I told a few people know about 2 rapes but for the countless unwanted physical encounters from the small like refusing to let go of my hand, to pinning me down who am I going to tell? It happens to all of us, maybe we don't know it at the time but as we get older we know. I can sit with friends & oneight say some pig grabbed me or demanded a kiss & none of us have to hear the detail we just nod our heads because we all know. There's no point talking about it now because someone would ask why didn't you say something then & I really am not that brave to have to argue with someone to.make them believe me.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
55. Or hear... oh, it was just a little kiss... or
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:32 AM
Oct 2016

don't be silly. Don't be a prude. Stop being stuck up. I knew you were flirting, you owed me. Just touch it. I could go on. Men have NO idea.

Response to Roland99 (Reply #8)

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
65. Because we know no ones going to
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:12 AM
Oct 2016

believe us, we'll be accused of going after a rich target just for a settlement, and most importantly - we know when accusing a guy like Trump you bring down hordes of lawyers onto your head, copious counter-suits, financial ruin and reputation ruined. Think about it. Young, broke, unknown and no resources - accusing a rich, powerful guy of impropriety. You'll get sued into oblivion.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
5. I hope Melania has a friend she can call
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:52 PM
Oct 2016

this evening, maybe go stay with, talk things over, find some emotional support.

I have no idea in hell, but am wondering if maybe she could use a good friend out there somewhere. I hope she has the number handy and has made the call.

I hope she brings her son along and that they leave the house. He has to go to school tomorrow in the wake of these assault reports about his father.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
19. Very likely you're right. But while I think
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:07 PM
Oct 2016

her husband's politics are dangerous and unacceptable, I just hope she and her son are ok.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
21. people like her legitimize creepy predators like Trump
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:10 PM
Oct 2016

I wish her well but I don't have much sympathy for her

Response to saltpoint (Reply #5)

demotux

(76 posts)
7. So he wants to throw Hillary in jail ...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:53 PM
Oct 2016

... but chances are he's actually the one ending up there. Can't wait to see that Weazle handcuffed. Throw away the key, then.

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
33. I think it could be a combination of things, but mostly . . . .
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:30 PM
Oct 2016

. . . . because he admitted it in no shy way. Twice. The Billy Bush tape and the Stern tape. The individual admissions may well have been personally cathartic for this speaking up.

MFM008

(19,816 posts)
26. These things are happening FASTER
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:14 PM
Oct 2016

than I can HEAR.

As many women have, I have run across men like him in my life.




JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
57. damn and I thought you were posting about something significant like NC flooding...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:19 AM
Oct 2016

Anyone starting a pool on how many women step forward tomorrow?

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