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sheshe2

(83,875 posts)
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:07 PM Oct 2016

The “Fuck This” Moment in Abusive Relationships

Abusive relationships manifest when a woman’s internal environment of low self-esteem meets an abuser’s external environment of continuous negative reinforcement. Women with low self-esteem magnify their faults to gigantic proportions while simultaneously disregarding all of the good things about themselves – the exact same thing that the abuser does. The external conditions reinforce the victim’s internal beliefs. She becomes trapped in a state of learned helplessness as her self-image gradually atrophies.

The decision to leave an abusive relationship is not easy, even after a powerful “fuck this” moment. It is NOT simply a case of “well, if he treats her so badly, why doesn’t she just leave?” Making the decision to leave requires tremendous inner strength and courage, as she is making this decision against nearly insurmountable odds. On top of the paralytic state of learned helplessness and the same feelings of loss that everyone feels at the end of a relationship (which are magnified in the unhealthy co-dependence of an abuser-victim relationship), abusers routinely threaten to hunt down and kill victims if they try to escape. They may threaten hurt or kill a victim’s family members, friends, or children. They may threaten to take custody of the victim’s children. On top of this, the victims often have no money and no support network, as the abuser has severed their ties to the world outside of the relationship. These women are stuck in a torturous cycle of being being raped, beaten, burnt, forced to do drugs, and slashed with knives, believing that there is no way out other than to risk their abuser inflicting pain and possibly death upon themselves and everyone they love. It takes the type of courage that most people have never had to summon in their entire lives to leave an established abusive relationship, no matter what the cost.

Don’t think that domestic violence can’t happen to you or that you don’t know anyone that is being or has been abused. You do. Domestic violence is very common, but is still surrounded by such a social taboo that it is not discussed openly. Think about how many women you know personally, then consider that statistically, one in every four of those women has experienced some form of domestic violence in her lifetime. If you want to avoid becoming a statistic yourself, one of the best things you can do is to hold yourself in high regard. Make sure you have high self-esteem and high standards that you will hold yourself and your partner to before you even consider starting a relationship. Your relationship standard should never be, “well, he puts me down and calls me names and embarrasses me in front of my friends and family, but he doesn’t hit me so it’s okay”. NO! Your standard should be “I absolutely refuse to tolerate anyone in my life who doesn’t treat me with the utmost respect, love, honesty, and kindness. I deserve the BEST, and anyone who gives me less than that can take a long walk off a short pier!”

Ladies – please don’t wait for an abuse-induced “fuck this” moment before you start to realise your self-worth. You absolutely do NOT have to tolerate men treating you badly. There are plenty of good men out there who would be honoured to date you and treat you with the love and respect you deserve. Have your “fuck this” moment right now. Dump the losers who don’t respect you and hold out for one of the great men who will.



More: http://www.climbtherainbow.com/2011/12/the-fuck-this-moment-in-abusive-relationships/

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You are not alone. You can do this. Pick yourself up and leave. If you have a child pick them up, hug them tightly and run as fast as you can and never look back.

Trust me, you all know someone that has been abused. You do, even if they never said the words. You know them.

October is DV awareness month.
Fuck DV.





Domestic Violence Charity Creates Intentionally Offensive PSA (NSFW)

“Any form of abuse, verbal and physical, is worse than a mere word.”




More: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028206269

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The “Fuck This” Moment in Abusive Relationships (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2016 OP
Any of us who have ever been subjected to the kind of assaulting behavior he jokes about Siwsan Oct 2016 #1
I know I am, Siwsan. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #2
My heart is actually pounding. Siwsan Oct 2016 #3
I know. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #5
And to you Siwsan Oct 2016 #6
Yes... sheshe2 Oct 2016 #7
Thanks for posting sheshe2 smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #4
Thanks, sheshe. brer cat Oct 2016 #8
Am I wrong to want to explain this to the Male Republican Establishment? msanthrope Oct 2016 #9
You are not wrong. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #10
Yes. . ...but I want to explain it with the help of a nice, solid piece of wood.... msanthrope Oct 2016 #11
with nails, or holes??? niyad Oct 2016 #23
Though far fewer bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #12
Please do not go there right now. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #15
I will respect your wishes in your thread bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #16
This is not the place, bucolic_frolic. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #18
I'm not making my own OP bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #19
as was pointed out, you are welcome to post your own OP, nobody is silencing you, so niyad Oct 2016 #21
This thread is still going? bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #27
but, you just did. and it will go on as long as people are interested in the subject. niyad Oct 2016 #28
I'm sorry bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #43
you were asked by the OP not to hijack a thread about abuse of women. we see this niyad Oct 2016 #46
This is not about separate but equal. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #35
Not sure why you refuse. bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #44
Looks like you just want a fight. nt raccoon Oct 2016 #49
Like you, I also act petulant when someone is discussing LanternWaste Oct 2016 #54
Thank you, niyad. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #37
you are most welcome niyad Oct 2016 #38
That's not what the CDC says Major Nikon Oct 2016 #34
their latest report is from 2010. niyad Oct 2016 #39
The key word being "latest" Major Nikon Oct 2016 #40
One of the lost lessons of the Oj saga Yavin4 Oct 2016 #13
Nicole's sister testified that O.J. grabbed his wife's crotch and said "This is mine." GreenEyedLefty Oct 2016 #17
dear goddess, I had forgotten that!! niyad Oct 2016 #22
Melania was 3 months pregnant. Advanced enough for Donald J tRump to know. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #14
Yes he did. sheshe2 Oct 2016 #24
k and r for this incredibly important information niyad Oct 2016 #20
Thanks sheshe2 Oct 2016 #25
k&R... spanone Oct 2016 #33
My last straw was when... a la izquierda Oct 2016 #36
You're a strong person. lovemydog Oct 2016 #42
Yes! lovemydog Oct 2016 #41
K&R betsuni Oct 2016 #45
. . . . niyad Oct 2016 #47
Trump is America's abusive boyfriend Rocknrule Oct 2016 #55
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Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
1. Any of us who have ever been subjected to the kind of assaulting behavior he jokes about
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:09 PM
Oct 2016

are, no doubt, in full fuming mode, after hearing that tape.

brer cat

(24,596 posts)
8. Thanks, sheshe.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 06:51 PM
Oct 2016

Very timely posting as the abusive candidate is all over the news demonstrating how it's done.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
9. Am I wrong to want to explain this to the Male Republican Establishment?
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:47 PM
Oct 2016

Seriously I think they've got some fucking Stockholm Syndrome

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
12. Though far fewer
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:05 PM
Oct 2016

than men, women can be abusers too

especially in the sense of having toxic personalities

There is the book "Toxic Parents"

The gaslighting, manipulation, extreme emotional shifts,
denial of reality, logical shifts - all can be part of an
abusive relationship. It may not be physical abuse, but it
works on one's self-esteem

sheshe2

(83,875 posts)
15. Please do not go there right now.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:21 PM
Oct 2016

This Op is about women abused at a FAR higher ratio than men. I would appreciate your doing your own OP about women as abusers.

Yes they exist, this OP is not about that.

To be clear, this OP is far from just physical abuse. Verbal abuse can be as deadly when you wish to destroy your target. The article describes all of that here.

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
16. I will respect your wishes in your thread
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:25 PM
Oct 2016

but do not feel that being silenced accomplishes anything
as ignoring issues only hides them

Thanks

sheshe2

(83,875 posts)
18. This is not the place, bucolic_frolic.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:32 PM
Oct 2016

I am not asking you to silence your voice anymore than I would a woman. Please understand that.

There is a time and a place for everything, this one is for women. Please do make an OP of your own. I know the issue exists. Your voice needs to be heard in a thread of your making.

Thanks for understanding, I look forward to your OP.

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
19. I'm not making my own OP
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:35 PM
Oct 2016

I'm just not posting on that subject here because of your request.
I'm not welcome to post my thoughts here. So I won't.

niyad

(113,540 posts)
21. as was pointed out, you are welcome to post your own OP, nobody is silencing you, so
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 09:42 PM
Oct 2016

please do not imply that anyone is.

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
27. This thread is still going?
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 09:55 PM
Oct 2016

I don't see why it's an issue for separate but equal.
But I'm not posting anymore about it.

niyad

(113,540 posts)
28. but, you just did. and it will go on as long as people are interested in the subject.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 09:57 PM
Oct 2016

would you please post the link to your article about male domestic violence victims?

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
43. I'm sorry
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:09 AM
Oct 2016

I'm not here to offend anyone, I merely posted an abuse issue in an OP
about abuse.

I do think it is separate but equal, you have told me to take any
additional posts on that subject to my own separate thread. They
are not wanted here. And I'm not posting about them here, I'm just
sorting out the issue of where posts are allowed and where they
are not.

In retrospect, segregating aspects of the issue is a very civil thing
to do, though some folks such as myself see them as all from the same
root. I did not, and do not, seek to offend anyone. Any faux pas was
inadvertent.

niyad

(113,540 posts)
46. you were asked by the OP not to hijack a thread about abuse of women. we see this
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 11:07 AM
Oct 2016

hijacking often when women's issues are discussed. there is nothing stopping you from posting your own concerns in another thread. would even lead to greater visibility. one wonders why you do not, since the issue of such great concern.

sheshe2

(83,875 posts)
35. This is not about separate but equal.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:41 PM
Oct 2016

You told me no way you would post about men being abused. Why is that?

It is an important issue, yet you will only post on mine about women and not one about men. This is about women. This is about us.


However. This would be my post to you when you post your own thread.

My dad abused my mom. They divorced after 26 years. Second marriage, A good one. She died of cancer 11 years later. The last one, we never liked her. In the end after his fall she dumped him in the hospital and walked out saying he was their problem. We got the call and brought him home. Stroke and Alzheimer he died a few years later.

Please make your own thread, It matters. Not sure why you refuse.

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
44. Not sure why you refuse.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:15 AM
Oct 2016

Perhaps because I don't want to, it's a subject I posted an observation
about, and not an ongoing interest, and also because I'm not an inferior
being taking orders? Equality is not being applied in that aspect.

Peace.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
54. Like you, I also act petulant when someone is discussing
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:00 PM
Oct 2016

Like you, I also act petulant when someone is discussing the Jewish holocaust and I want to inject a wholly separate conversation about the Amerindian genocide.

I too pretend frustration when someone tells me they are different conversations and topics, yet I continue to push the narrative that their similarities compel us to discuss both simultaneously else I'm being unfairly... which let's us allege unequal treatment to better validate our own self-styled oppression and martyrdom.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
34. That's not what the CDC says
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:17 PM
Oct 2016

Their latest report says for physical violence between intimate partners, the estimate is 5,365,000 for male victims and 4,741,000 for female victims over a 12 month period.
https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf

The latest National Violence Against Women Survey found similar results.

If you want to talk severity of injuries, death, and certain other negative outcomes, there is a disparate impact between gender, but as far as physical violence goes, men and women hit each other at about the same rate.

If you want to have an actual discussion about domestic violence then it's probably not a bad idea to consider who is hitting whom as severe domestic violence tends to be an escalation of violence rather than a one time event. If anyone is hitting anyone it's a good idea to seek help or get out regardless of who is on which side of the first punch.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
13. One of the lost lessons of the Oj saga
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:08 PM
Oct 2016

Even when the victim leaves her abuser, her life is still in danger.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
17. Nicole's sister testified that O.J. grabbed his wife's crotch and said "This is mine."
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:27 PM
Oct 2016

This came to mind immediately when I heard DJT's boast. He's a completely repulsive person.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,034 posts)
14. Melania was 3 months pregnant. Advanced enough for Donald J tRump to know.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:15 PM
Oct 2016

The video seems to have been shot around Sept. 16, 2005.

Barron was born March 20, 2006.

It is 185 days from the start date to the end date, or 6 months, 4 days excluding the end date.

Donald J tRump talked like that while he knew his wife was three months pregnant.

a la izquierda

(11,797 posts)
36. My last straw was when...
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:42 PM
Oct 2016

He hit me across the back with his skateboard...
Or when he called to demand I drive down "just to chill."
Or when he physically threatened me.
Different guys, all three.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
42. You're a strong person.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:02 PM
Oct 2016

You have so much to offer.

Congratulations for saying 'fuck this to each of them.'

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
41. Yes!
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:01 PM
Oct 2016

Fuck domestic violence.

Speak out. Support people who support women and children.

Each person has so much to offer.

Help them live their dreams in a safe and healthy environment.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
55. Trump is America's abusive boyfriend
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:07 PM
Oct 2016

complete with gaslighting of all shapes and sizes

"I was being sarcastic!"
"But but but Bill Clinton!"
"It was locker room talk!"
"I'll be a better man tomorrow!"

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