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Cary

(11,746 posts)
1. It succeeded in making me hate Pence even more
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:36 PM
Oct 2016

I'll leave it to you to ascertain the significance of that.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
2. Meh. Lots of talking over each other.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:36 PM
Oct 2016

I thought Kaine did well, not great. Pence scares the shit out of me, but he didn't have a major flub. He lied- a lot. Denied he or Trump said things they're on tape saying. Will the media actually factcheck that?

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
3. Pence got his ass handed to him with both hands, but the media is attacking Kaine for being too
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:38 PM
Oct 2016

aggressive and are spinning it a Pence win.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
4. Close enough where I don't think just this will change much this moment
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:55 PM
Oct 2016

But I do think there was some good fodder to go after dipshit donnie and his sock puppet later. With this being a less watched debate I think most will be waiting on how it is spun later. I don't think anything except the differences between dipshit and sock puppet anything real major will come out. If the Clinton campaign uses this split in how the two view things it could be something they could bait dipshit with.

ailsagirl

(22,898 posts)
5. I didn't see it either-- don't think we missed too much
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:56 PM
Oct 2016

And you're right-- the online polls have gone BERSERK (for pence, of course)

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
6. Rather insipid affair to be honest
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 12:05 AM
Oct 2016

Kaine came out of the gun like an ankle bitin' yapping terrrier and rudely interrupted wall paper Pence. Democrats were shocked and horrified to see one of their own acting like a republican in a debate!! Tut tut. But how in the hell do you debate these days when republicans say with a straight face, one obvious vomitous lie after another? Pence sounded like the serious adult at the store who blathers about the government coming to get our guns and the fuckin' Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!

I thought it was nice to see Kaine give Pence a good dose of his own republican medicine. He kept biting the ankle until he hit bone. And the pundit class is powdering their collective noses over Kaine being aggressive and rude. Tsk tsk.

Bottom line, it's a VP debate that nobody, and I mean nobody except us political junkies gives two shits about. Number of viewers who switched their votes after this debate? About 4 for the entire nation. As for these phony un-decided people - who in the hell are they? Are they really going to vote? How could you not have made a decision by now? And no - they won't decide the election.

And the fact checking will be brutal for Pence in the coming weeks. He gave us a basket full of deplorable quotes for the locker room wall. Hillary's people will have this shit packaged and put into a series of crushing commercials before sundown tomorrow.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
8. Waste of time, no questions to real issues like global warming, citizen's united, minimum wage
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 12:32 AM
Oct 2016

etc etc, moderator lost total control of the whole thing...

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
9. I think the matchups were good.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 12:39 AM
Oct 2016

We have calm, knowledgeable Hillary who is great at feinting and jabbing crazy wild-swinging Trump when he leaves himself open.

We have Kaine going on offensive, because Pence knows how to politician, and would have looked a lot better without Kaine blindsiding him with sucker punches.

Kaine is not as smooth as Pence, but that's a good thing. In this case I think Kaine is more relatable as a normal fed-up person going after an unflappable politician.

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