JEEZ H. Christ - Do these fuckers EVER stop

[packman]

"Florida anti-choice activists have launched a campaign to amend the state’s constitution to ban abortion care and classify the procedure as first-degree murder, which under state law is punishable by the death penalty.

The measure would not only make a pregnant person seeking an abortion and the physician performing the procedure eligible for the death penalty, but people who use any number of birth control methods would conceivably be subject to execution by the state."

I know its Florida , but ----

All these asswipes have to do to get it on the ballot is get 8% percent of the total number of votes cast in the last presidential election of registered voters on a petition - and believe me, there is at least 8% of wackadoodles in Florida that will sign that petition.

https://rewire.news/article/2016/09/29/florida-ballot-initiative-would-make-abortion-birth-control-punishable-death/

[TonyPDX]

1. Floriduh is a perfect storm of rednecks in the northern parts of the state, and

empty-nesting end-of-lifers below the frost line. Neither group has any self-respect, and are united in their hatred and bigotry.

I grew up there, and barely survived it.

[DrDan]

19. wow - how insulting to those of us living here

[TonyPDX]

22. If/When conditions there change, so will my opinion.

[DrDan]

23. such an insult to those of us who worked so hard to get Obama elected , , , twice

but feel free to continue your broadbrushing . . . you are a model

[TonyPDX]

25. No, I'm no "model," I'm a Florida native.

Florida's support of candidate Obama doesn't negate electing Gov. Rick Scott twice, or the vast insanity that brings the sunshine state into the headlines every other day.

If you are a liberal there, then I salute you. You are on the very front lines of the fight to preserve some semblance of our democracy. But don't deny the fact that the northern part of the state (where I spent 20 years) or the "I got mine you're on your own" transplants/retirees in south Florida (where I attended college) who stand against modernity. Look at the majority there and explain why calling them out is "broadbrushing." Are there exceptions, does everyone there line up with Republicans? Of course not, but it is the MAJORITY-- the broad swath-- that characterizes a state, not the outliers.

I was an active Democrat there until the folly of trying to fight increasing waves of backwards thinking became clear. If and when people wake up there I'll adjust my opinion accordingly. Until then, I encouraged members of my family and close friends to get the hell out.

[gg4usa]

28. Please don't create more divisiveness - that's what trump wants

Attack the policy; it's reprehensible. Yes, Florida definitely has it's bigots and rednecks, but so do all states. I'm glad I left North Carolina before they made all the education cuts and enacted that backwards HB2 transgender law.

[TonyPDX]

29. You know, you're right.

Though I fully believe what I said, I didn't choose my words carefully enough. Thank you for letting me know.

[Faux pas]

2. Thanks the Universe

I no longer have a uterus for them to muck about in.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. They always try this kind of shit right before a national election.

[hfojvt]

4. listen and understand

[awoke_in_2003]

12. Exactly. nt

[Orrex]

5. Now more than ever

We should give full amnesty to the many functional human beings still living there so that they have a chance to emigrate to the upper 49.

[GulfCoast66]

14. That's a load of Bullshit!

Florida went for Obama both times and is going to be the firewall against Trump.
You willing to give up our Electoral College votes too?


We have our share of crazies, many of them migrants from up North.

[Orrex]

16. That's why I offered amnesty before the great sawing-off

You have until we find an anthropomorphic rabbit who's handy with a cross-cut saw.


As to the rest, Florida (like many other states) is saddled by an entrenched and inaccurately representative state legislature that acts contrary to the will or sensibilities of the overall populace.

My very own Pennsylvania, with its gerrymandered & well-protected Republican majority, is as legislatively fucked up as any state south of the Mason-Dixon. And I believe that my small town of 30,000 alone has almost as many heroin OD's as whole states down your way.

In short, we mock Florida because Florida is emblematic of what's so profoundly wrong with so many states.


Of course, you handily outpace us on alligator attacks and python-filled swamps, so take pride!

[GulfCoast66]

17. And our beaches

And miles and miles of ocean front.

We also have more fresh water springs than any other state and most countries.

Our population is highly condensed and much of the state is wild or agricultural. It is a beautiful state.

Most importantly, the republicans have had their high water moment here and we are working to put them back in the minority. We passed an amendment making it much harder to gerrymander and we will see the results over the next few elections.

Have a great day and visit Florida this winter!

[spanone]

6. rust never sleeps

[Lochloosa]

7. It's too late to get it on this years ballot. The earliest it could show up is 2018.

And in Florida it would need 60% of the vote to pass. High Hurdle.

[awoke_in_2003]

13. Lower turn out

in non-presidential elections- better chance of squeaking it through.

[napi21]

8. Can a State enact a law that is uncostitutional at the Federal level?

I realize this is just another ploy to get the RW riled up right before an election, but they must be really stupid to believe they could actually do something like that.

[shraby]

9. No they can't. Also see the requirements for changing the constitution. It's not just a law written

at the state level. It involves a percentage of both houses of congress and a percentage of states. What they are doing will be struck down pronto if it's enacted.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

10. They're like Michael Myers in Halloween.

?1

[awoke_in_2003]

11. No, they don't

Which is why we should never give up- they must be watched at all times.

[Initech]

15. So abortion is first degree murder, but police shooting to kill - business as usual.

[Warpy]

18. If only we could find a way to outlaw religious patriarchs

and other miserable people who use religion as a weapon to attack the rest of humanity, we might be able to grow up both as a country and as a species.

[Mariana]

20. They believe God wants them to do this.

They're just being good Christians, according to the way they interpret the Bible. So no, they will never stop.

[lindysalsagal]

30. And the earth is flat, and only 5000 years old.

Yuppers.

[Jim Beard]

21. Seems like I read something about Oklahoma's abortion law being slammed down by the

OK courts

Oklahoma Supreme Court strikes down restrictive abortion law

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

24. I'm not sure they could get away with this

if the amendment was made. If abortion is still legal in the US, even if they make it illegal in FL, I think they will have trouble pursuing the death penalty for that because it is legal in other states and the country as a whole. This would definitely get pushed up to the US Supreme court and what a nasty court battle that would be if it ever happened.

[BlueCaliDem]

27. They're fully aware they can't get away with this. This is just an election ploy to give Trump their

electoral votes this election. That's all.

Question is: are Floridians stupid enough to fall for it (again)?

[VMA131Marine]

26. No, they don't ever stop!

And neither should we!

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance" - Thomas Charlton, The life of Major General James Jackson, 1809.