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The whole article is interesting; here's a snippet.
Or am I?
I wanted to include more, but my phone is being frustrating. 😃
http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/10/white-liberals-perpetuate-racism/
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)regardless of the color of their skin. These days it's all about "microassaults", "microinvalidations", and whatnot.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)concerning "white liberals" and their less than perfect outlook on race, or their less than perfect responses to race problems, or what have you. Meanwhile, an absolute monster is poised to possibly win the presidency and unequivocal, in your face racists are crawling out into the light everywhere.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Those who desire current levels or greater levels of inequality will require a different approach.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)I say we reduce inequality by organizing for action.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)This further draws the attention back to us, and away from the real issue of pain felt by the person of color.
If we truly want a different world, lets ask ourselves:
Can I simply say: I wasnt aware my words or actions hurt you. Tell me more so I can learn?
You're not supposed to draw attention away from the person of color, except when you are. Which you don't know when you can, because you can't, but you have to.
If a white person listens, that's not enough. If they join in, that could be either not enough or too much. Most likely both at the same time, so that either way white people are wrong.
9. White Guilt
According to The Racism Root Kit: Understanding the Insidiousness of White Privilege, a person experiencing white guilt will attempt to provide comfort as if to make up for the indignation expressed by the person of color.
I feel terrible about all the police brutality against black people.
We may want to do the right thing, but because no real change or self-examination is engaged, no awareness takes place.
So basically the entire article is white guilt. Nothing changed, and the author made it all about him and white people in general.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)and wrote himself into a pretzel.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)because white guilt or microinvalidation or something, and instead you should give him $10.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,355 posts)Wow, no stereotypes there, Mr. Sachs...
This article is of no use to anyone who wants to help society, I think.
Bucky
(54,041 posts)I hate that circular firing squad thing people do when they want to out-liberal each other. Liberals are allowed to disagree with each other without being racists or betraying the cause.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)I like that.
lame54
(35,317 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Curious logic. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
lame54
(35,317 posts)but i've been reading the opposite
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)I'm not sure where the perception of millennials largely supporting trump comes from. Practically every poll I've seen shows young voters favoring Hillary Clinton at or around 50%, yet no one is losing their shit over 57% of the 65+ crowd heading for Trump.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)New York Times poll a couple weeks ago showed 1/3rd of millennials are either favoring 3rd party or plan to not vote at all.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Albertoo
(2,016 posts)Some will want to see racism where there's none to feel good about themselves
(hero status), thereby actualizing/propping up latent divides
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)and if so, how so?
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)There are many more important issues in life than to redress minor faults of people who mean well.
Trying to dissect the minor ways in which progressives whose intent is to not be racist might be eventually be perceived as expressing in a subliminal way some subtle form of racism that they never meant to express is to magnify something that would solve itself much better by letting minute details just drift by.
Crying wolf over details where there was no harmful intention creates issue fatigue, diminishing the impact of protesting when there is actual, intentional racism.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
Cakes488
(874 posts)There will always be some sort of racism...but it's getting better and it will be a better world when there is a whole lot less of it.
ismnotwasm
(41,999 posts)So while bigotry and prejudice and hatred for the "other" is not limited to white people, in America, and plenty of other places thanks to colonialism, modern racism (there has always been racism, it's forms have changed) exists in white people who all hold that power.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)Go read a dictionary. Your explaination is incongruent with definition of racism.
ismnotwasm
(41,999 posts)Because racism is just that simple.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)romanic
(2,841 posts)So I'd be careful not to castigate a group that birthed your idealogy.
ismnotwasm
(41,999 posts)Simplistic one I admit.
jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)silence on aggressive wars against non friendly nations? Btw, all these "white people bad/ black people good" articles do much more damage to race relationship that they solve. I hate hate hate hate seeing them posted on this site.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)romanic
(2,841 posts)Imo these articles inflame racial bigotry and distrust on both sides. I also think authors such as these benefit from poor race relations since it gives them a "market" and a "platform" to write garbage like this.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Because i don't demonize whites or white liberals.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)may also try to avoid demonizing others based on biological demographics, and may even think about their own behavior slightly differently after reading the article.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Many people claim simply talking about racism inflames racial bigotry and distrust on both sides. However, as they absolutely never support this allegation with valid evidence, I allow them all the lack of credibility they are in fact due... and bless their little dogmatic hearts.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)White people are supposed to acknowledge their inherent racism, and that's it. You can't say you're not racist. You can't apologize for racism or being racist. You can't play the pain game. You can't list what you've done as a white person to not be racist.
4. Masochism
When a white liberals guilt runs amuck, it may become a deep-seated need to take his or her racial lumps.
White liberals, who unconsciously seek self-punishment for historical oppression, appear racially sensitive.
But they actually perpetuate racism by simply becoming a receptacle for potential and actual abuse, instead of examining their racially-biased behavior.
This was an entry of the article. A lengthy article about how white liberals perpetuate racism. How white people are just wrong, wrong, wrong. You did a bad thing white person! Go to the corner and think about what you've done, and remember that going to the corner to think about what you've done is wrong too. Don't beat yourself up over racism, because you only appear racially sensitive if you do. However, unless you consistently acknowledge your inherent racism, you can't even attempt to not be racist, which you can't be, because you're white. You're also wrong for being wrong.
And this is why I say articles like these inflame racial tension. I'm sure a snobby know-it-all white academic would slobber in agreement but for other whites who know nothing of the academic rules of racism, an excerpt like this would piss them off.
Albertoo
(2,016 posts)In transactional analysis, one could say whites are being placed in a role of children who are taught they can never do well: whatever they do, they are guilty.
Tell me how this is supposed to bring about positive outcomes?
Invoking the specter of imaginary inborn racism of whites is eroding the real effort to fight racism when it really exists.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)the implied ageism, as if only older white liberals can have these issues. My nephew is a millennial (although he's not liberal) and his tone-deafness is off-the-chart stupid. While although I'm twice his age, I was down with the concept of political correctness the moment I first heard of it while other liberals were and are still on the fence or against it.
Life is full of exceptions.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Hillary has spoken of our 'implicit bias.'
As long as outcomes reflect a racial bias, racism is.
'Equal opportunity' is just a mask.
romanic
(2,841 posts)7 Ways White Jews Can Do Better By the Movement for Black Lives
5 Signs Your Idea of Intersectionality Is Anti-Black Racism In Disguise
Jesus Christ what a miserable and racially divisive website. Some people truly benefit from poor race relations - it gives them writing material.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)5 years of actual experience and/or completely practicing in a field outside of mass population psychology.
My guess is that they're either an ADD counselor or relationship counselor.
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ismnotwasm
(41,999 posts)The push back replies here validate the points of the article
This is what young people know instinctively. And what older white Liberals like you and me have a hard time understanding.
Theres a problem when we champion change, then hide from it when it really counts. Like it or not, White superiority is well defended and protected. It may be unintentional. Its likely unconscious. Without more introspection and sincere interaction, the racism train keeps rolling.
Right now, you might feel angry and misjudged.
Maybe youre a white liberal shaking your head, feeling slighted and angered by the lack of acknowledgment, regarding your efforts and accomplishments concerning racial sensitivity. After all, white liberals are the white folks who really get it. Right?
Wrong. This is, in fact, another microinvalidation. Beverly and Pendler call that particular microaggression attack by racial resume. We say, Look at all the work Ive done on behalf of people of color! Im one of the good ones!
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)As most white people, I have thoughtlessly done it. Gaining some awareness has been productive for me. To oppose racism is to also oppose the denials and defenses that are the first resorts for people who aren't willing to consider themselves as being part of the problem.
Some people are misusing the concept of implicit bias as a defense of their racism. "Everyone has biases. Everyone is racist."
Implicit bias testing measures quick reactions. However when we are given time to reflect and show bias, it is not implied. It is deliberate. And it is bigotry.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Read articles such as the one posted with an open mind. Listen to people who live it to give me insight, and asking if I have done anything that could be interpreted as racist without the usual defense and denial.... "but you misunderstood" or "that's not how I meant it."
Instead, "I didn't think of it that way. Is there a way to do better?"
The person who lives with racism is the expert in these situations. I am trying to learn from my friends who know more than I do.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I was shocked to find so many white folks I knew were more than ready to make sure it was anyone but a black man in office. It reminded me of how easy it is to think we are progressing merely due to time. I forgot how easy it is to be white in this country.
Racism is kicking and screaming in this country. It is alive and well and thriving.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)1) Don't have feelings of racial animus or superiority
2) Don't try to convince others to have feelings of racial animus or superiority.
The article is non-sense.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Kids ever increasing tuitions paid for this gobbledygook. I wonder how many months they sat around coming up with this, stuff. Drawing a paycheck the entire time.
Good work if you can get it.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Here's an idea. If somebody has reached the point in their life where they are all worked up about MICRO-problems, then they may not have any real problems.
Of course, the article said we should not create a contest of pain. So any white people with no feet should just sit there and sympathize with a black person who has no shoes, or has an even smaller microproblem. It's all about me needing to bow and scrape to them. Anything else just perpetuates racism. We cannot be friends if I do not accept that their complaints and problems are more important than those of everybody else.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I think the article was saying we shouldn't invalidate people's feelings, especially when we're not in their situation. The article specifically uses POC as an example, but think the advice applies to any marginalized group.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)consists only of micro-problems.
I still do not think groups are marginalized. In 2011, 21.5% of black households had more than $100,000 in net worth. Those are the people who are probably worried about micro this and micro that. The 48.1% who have less than $5,000 in net worth - they probably have real problems.
People's feelings can often be blind, like is always said about white people taking their privileges for granted. In the same way, richer people can forget how fortunate they are and still find micro-problems to complain about.
Don't invalidate people's feelings? Really? Because many low income white people probably FEEL like the notion of "white privilege" is an insulting crock of crap. Are their feelings validated by higher income college graduates? Or are they told that they are wrong to feel that way? And by people who are not walking in their shoes.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)White privilege just means that out of all your myriad of problems, your skin color isn't one of them. Liberals suck at branding, and the term "white privilege" is another example our horrible ability to label shit.
The problems of racism and bigotry aren't "micro," but some expressions of racism are micro, but can be painful because of the larger, serious problem.