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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 07:51 PM Oct 2016

Sad thing. I was in the Pain Management doc's office for my post herpetic (shingles) pain and

there are all these poor souls with more pain than me. One poor man, who could barely stand, staggered in, collapsed in a chair and literally passed out, mumbling. The lady next to me said that the people there are just there to get their pain pill prescriptions and get out. She complained that people like her, who had real pain, were being shoved aside by the dopers.

I don't know what happened to the guy in the chair. The lady next to me said "He's high."

OMG, these poor people...

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Sad thing. I was in the Pain Management doc's office for my post herpetic (shingles) pain and (Original Post) CTyankee Oct 2016 OP
I have a real problem Egnever Oct 2016 #1
I know Republicans and they are not at all accusatory---they have the virgogal Oct 2016 #3
That was YOU? jberryhill Oct 2016 #2
I woud have helped you if I could. I know you are being light hearted but I felt for the guy... CTyankee Oct 2016 #6
My daughter is a nurse. She says over half of the people begging for pain meds appleannie1 Oct 2016 #4
The response to opioids and heroin is an overcorrection loyalsister Oct 2016 #5
I know, but this gets into "these dopers are getting in the way of my REAL pain" and that is CTyankee Oct 2016 #7
Good points loyalsister Oct 2016 #8
 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
3. I know Republicans and they are not at all accusatory---they have the
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 08:10 PM
Oct 2016

same problems as everyone else and much tolerance for others.

Some are asses,sure,but idiots are all over the place.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
4. My daughter is a nurse. She says over half of the people begging for pain meds
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 08:11 PM
Oct 2016

are addicts but that is an illness too. You cannot force them to go into an addiction treatment facility. They have to want to do that themselves. So all you can do is monitor them and only give them meds when it is time for them to have them and not before because you cannot say they don't have pain. And also watch that they don't walk out with an IV in place.

The bad thing is they usually want constant attention and that takes nurses away from critical patients.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. The response to opioids and heroin is an overcorrection
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 08:12 PM
Oct 2016

and people are suffering. There has to be a better way! These drugs can be and are frequently used responsibly. US drug policy makers need to grow up and stop scapegoating.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. I know, but this gets into "these dopers are getting in the way of my REAL pain" and that is
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:07 PM
Oct 2016

a whole different conversation, which is what I had with this lady.

Why don't we have a conversation about what is pain? Aren't the addicts also in pain?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
8. Good points
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 09:19 PM
Oct 2016

I think that addiction should be managed medically. A person gets hooked on heroin, set them up with a doctor who will provide morphine and administer it with more safety than they would on their own. In that case, I would think it might be possible for a person to maintain a functional addiction.
On the other hand, it's clear that addictions can lead to serious maladaptation. If that is the case, maybe a person should be encouraged to think about what they could do differently.

There are not easy answers, but we are obviously not doing the best we can for people who are directly affected.

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