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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas anyone asked, "Where did the $916 million in losses come from?"
According to the NY Times article:
"Reports that year by New Jersey casino regulators gave glimpses of the balance sheet carnage. The Trump Taj Mahal casino reported a $25.5 million net loss during its first six months of 1990; the Trumps Castle casino lost $43.5 million for the year. His airline, Trump Shuttle, lost $34.5 million during just the first six months of that year."
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Those were his big losses. Those were his bankruptcies. Where did he get the other $800 million in losses? In my opinion, he created that number out of thin air, just so he could use this loophole in the tax code and not have to pay any taxes. He is a fraud from the get go.
The mistake in reporting this story is accepting the $916 million in losses as true. If there were bankruptcies, we could see those losses. However, all of his "businesses" did not go bankrupt or lose money.
It doesn't add up.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)Is any of the networks talking about this or are they focusing on #basementdwellers and whether Trump will bring up Bill's affairs at the debate? I'm sure not paying taxes is soooo boring for many American people. They want to hear the juicy, gossip stuff.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)kentuck
(111,104 posts)We will find that he has received hundreds of millions of dollars in refunds from the IRS and the American people. Not only did he not pay any taxes, the government paid him.
duncang
(1,907 posts)And really should be releasing his businesses records. It not only would shed light on his actual worth, but show conflicts of interest. When I hear release the audit letter or first 2 pages it's just putting a piece of tape on the floor and calling it a bar.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)You list losses in the early 90s for six months or a year; if this was all put as a personal loss in 1995, then that is a loss of capital, when he has sold assets at a huge loss, or the IRS has accepted them as worthless (I don't know the US code, so I don't know if they can even 'accept as worthless' a business, or if it would actually have to be sold for its value to be determined). If the businesses lost money over a few years, it would have become apparent they were shit, and the money he'd put into them would be lost.
lastlib
(23,250 posts)...not a capital loss, which gets a different tax treatment. Still, he has to be able to prove it, and the documentation to do that hasn't come out..... (I'm guessing he'll have a Cheneyesque office fire pretty soon......)
kentuck
(111,104 posts)We recall the controversy over charitable organizations getting involved in politics when the conservatives were complaining that the IRS was auditing "conservative" charities but not the liberal charities, a couple of years ago.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)He must play fast and loose with the tax code every single year.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)Donald is the exception. There's a reason.
spanone
(135,844 posts)I am so sick of the stupidity of the American people.
spanone
(135,844 posts)white supremacists make sense, no one else does.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)Donald has never done anything for his country but take. Period. Yet, they act as if they are so angry with the "status quo" that they are looking for some type of "change". Who better to help you rob the bank than a very good, experienced bank robber??
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)He's claiming to make millions and paying no taxes.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)Trump is at war with the IRS. He has been using the 1995 tax form as proof to the IRS that he owes no taxes, even if he did make over $600,000,000 this year alone. Now, he is showing that proof to the public. Can't you see how the IRS is "persecuting" him? etc...etc.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)He could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and he would not lose a vote.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)You are going down, shitgibbon!
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)to show up on a personal tax filing. No?
Wouldn't most losses be contained in the businesses themselves?
(as you can see, I'm no tax expert but curious to understand Trump's scheme)
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)Obviously, it is Hillary Clinton's fault.
He would have made money, huuuuuge money in those casinos if it was for those meddling Clintons.
That or he spent an inordinate amount of money on enzyte to increase the size of his hands.
kentuck
(111,104 posts)He said it was his "mic" at the debate. I had no problem hearing his every snort, sitting in my living room...
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)now on! Also let's ask Pence at the VP debate on Tuesday! ALSO TRUMP NEEDS TO RELEASE TAXES!
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)which are allegedly under audit (he hasn't proved that yet, which he can by showing the IRS notice of audit letter, which he's free to do).
kentuck
(111,104 posts)He's a demagogue.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Getting sued, bad business, filing bankruptcy, not paying bills, defaulting on loans,
kentuck
(111,104 posts)He's very good at division.