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TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 02:35 PM Jun 2012

GREECE: AP says exits show major parties have enough seats for a pro-Euro coalition.

We're still waiting to see which party comes out on top.

Edited to add: on Twitter, Nate Silver is saying that the New Democracy Party is favored to win the largest share of the vote and seats.

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GREECE: AP says exits show major parties have enough seats for a pro-Euro coalition. (Original Post) TheWraith Jun 2012 OP
So the right wingers are winning? nt jannyk Jun 2012 #1
Much like an American election, rural districts come in before urban districts kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #2
Looks like it. nt TheWraith Jun 2012 #3
Greek Interior Ministry calls it for New Dems (barely) jannyk Jun 2012 #4
But as Samaras' Interior Minister, he might be a leeeetle biased kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #10
So if that holds out, looks like NDP will have 124 seats. TheWraith Jun 2012 #11
Exit polls are so yesterday 99th_Monkey Jun 2012 #5
Sigh. TheWraith Jun 2012 #9
KOS & Fitzrakis have it right IMHO 99th_Monkey Jun 2012 #12
One more rigged election malaise Jun 2012 #6
what excatly do you think was done? RB TexLa Jun 2012 #8
If true the screaming yo-yos on the floor of the NYSE will like that very much bluestateguy Jun 2012 #7

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
2. Much like an American election, rural districts come in before urban districts
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 02:50 PM
Jun 2012

Early results may skew stronger to the right than the final result.
Also, bear in mind that even if the ND Quisling gang come out on top in this election, unless they manage to secure a really large majority, which is unlikely, any government they form probably won't survive through the fall. They will be on the hook for delivering scorched earth austerity measures they have promised to the Germans, and the bill will start coming due in the fall. Expect more unrest and no confidence votes.

jannyk

(4,810 posts)
4. Greek Interior Ministry calls it for New Dems (barely)
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jun 2012

from BBC Website (via Reuters):

Breaking News

Official projection of result: New Democracy - 29.5%, Syriza - 27.1%. That is from the Greek interior ministry, quoted by Reuters.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
10. But as Samaras' Interior Minister, he might be a leeeetle biased
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 03:23 PM
Jun 2012

The projection was based on votes counted on the spot at about 12 percent of polling stations and sent to the ministry via text message. It proved highly accurate in an earlier May 6 election, which produced stalemate, though the figures are subject to a margin of error which leaves a degree of uncertainty.

"If we were in the United States, we would say it's too close to call and decline to publish a forecast," said Costas Panagopoulos of pollster Alco.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
11. So if that holds out, looks like NDP will have 124 seats.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jun 2012

Compared to Syriza's 67 or 68. Unless I've screwed up my math. (For anyone who doesn't know, the top vote getter receives a bonus of an additional 50 seats.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. Exit polls are so yesterday
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 03:05 PM
Jun 2012

Haven't you heard? They are completely unreliable.

Oh wait, I forgot .. exit polls are ONLY unreliable the USA.

Never-mind.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
9. Sigh.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 03:22 PM
Jun 2012

Once again, since some people seem to have trouble with nuance... No, they're not entirely reliable. Although they're much more reliable once you match them against early returns. However, it's hardly difficult to say that the parties which favor remaining part of the Eurozone have won a majority, when they did so by at least 6 points.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
12. KOS & Fitzrakis have it right IMHO
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 04:53 PM
Jun 2012

"Now I should explain something about exit polls in the U.S. In recent years, the practice of the consortium of news organizations that run the exit polls of presidential elections has been to "adjust" the exit polls to match the final official count. It is assumed that the official count is accurate and that the raw data of the initial exit polls, if different, must be inaccurate. (Charnin, in the quote above, is comparing unadjusted exit poll data to the official counts.)

In this respect, U.S. elections are different from elections held in the rest of the world, where properly done exit polls are the chief means of finding electoral fraud--if the official count departs from the exit poll by a significant degree, that is evidence of vote rigging."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/17/1100706/-Red-Shift-why-it-s-important

"If vote-rigging prospers, none may call it vote-rigging. It simply becomes the new norm. Once again, the universal laws of statistics apply only outside U.S. borders. The recall vote in Wisconsin produced another significant 7% discrepancy between the unadjusted exit poll and the so-called "recorded vote." In actual social science, this level of discrepancy, with the results being so far outside the expected margin of error would not be accepted."
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2012/1936

Are you completely unaware of the US's duplicitous and absurd trashing of exit polls in US, as smokescreen for electronically stealing elections for the RW GOP, all the while still holding them a "gold standard" for evaluating fairness of elections in every other nation?

Say it's not so.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
7. If true the screaming yo-yos on the floor of the NYSE will like that very much
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jun 2012

until they find something else to bitch about in 2-3 days.

(whining) "Oh, but there's so much uncertainty out there..."

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